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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 26, 2019 12:12:51 GMT -5
None of the announced Phase 4 slate would have any reason to mention him at all, aside from maybe What If?, which is easy to write around. Granted.... these days, it would be hard to keep a secret like this.... but what if this is all an under the table "agreement" between Sony and Disney? Spider Man isn't necessary for Phase 4 and they set him up to be "on the run". He's on the run doing his own thing now with Venom "outside the universe". In a couple years, Sony and Disney end up coming to agreement "out of the blue" and Spidey is back for Phase 5..... Like I said, in this "Internet Era" and everyone being an "insider", it would probably be impossible to keep a secret like this, but...... I know... awful conspiracy theory type crap. When one considers the gargantuan fan backlash that Ray Charles saw coming, the huge hit Sony's share prices took, and the likely probability of the next Spidey movie underperforming at the box office, such a plan seems really far fetched. But this is Sony's movie division we're talking about here...
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Aug 26, 2019 12:16:52 GMT -5
Yeah, not taking sides because this is just a pissing match between two corporations. It does remind me of when Virgin Media in the UK had a dispute with Sky and lost the rights to all the Sky channels. Both companies even took out newspaper ads blaming the other. Though that was resolved but it took nearly two years. Hopefully this gets resolved too because Far From Home ended on a major cliffhanger that opened up a myriad of possibilities and it would be really frustrating if that never gets followed up on.
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Post by thechase on Aug 29, 2019 12:13:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 13:27:44 GMT -5
So... how the hell do they write him out? None of the announced Phase 4 slate would have any reason to mention him at all, aside from maybe What If?, which is easy to write around. ........since What If? is an animated series, could Spider-Man (maybe not voiced by Tom Holland) still be involved with that? Or would the story being tied to the MCU negate that?
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Post by mrtuesday on Aug 29, 2019 14:56:41 GMT -5
None of the announced Phase 4 slate would have any reason to mention him at all, aside from maybe What If?, which is easy to write around. ........since What If? is an animated series, could Spider-Man (maybe not voiced by Tom Holland) still be involved with that? Or would the story being tied to the MCU negate that? It's a TV show. Marvel/Disney have the TV rights to Spider-Man. No problem there.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 29, 2019 15:56:29 GMT -5
........since What If? is an animated series, could Spider-Man (maybe not voiced by Tom Holland) still be involved with that? Or would the story being tied to the MCU negate that? It's a TV show. Marvel/Disney have the TV rights to Spider-Man. No problem there. Imagine Disney making a live-action Spider-man TV show featuring Holland on Disney+. Is that a possibility or does Holland's contract exclude the chance of it happening?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 29, 2019 16:01:56 GMT -5
None of the announced Phase 4 slate would have any reason to mention him at all, aside from maybe What If?, which is easy to write around. ........since What If? is an animated series, could Spider-Man (maybe not voiced by Tom Holland) still be involved with that? Or would the story being tied to the MCU negate that? Depends on the strength of the terms Since it is technically TV they are in the clear but they are using a character they used in the movies which may muddy the water since Sony owns movie rights so then the question would be is there a loophole in having a previous movie character and being able to flip him into animation/TV without violating terms
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 29, 2019 16:13:45 GMT -5
It's a TV show. Marvel/Disney have the TV rights to Spider-Man. No problem there. Imagine Disney making a live-action Spider-man TV show featuring Holland on Disney+. Is that a possibility or does Holland's contract exclude the chance of it happening? Sony own all the live action rights, not just movies. Lord and Miller have been put in charge of Sony's live-action Spider-Verse TV project, which will include Peter Parker (though maybe not Tom Holland's version). www.cnet.com/news/new-spider-man-universe-tv-series-will-be-really-special/
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Post by Cyno on Aug 29, 2019 16:44:45 GMT -5
Imagine Disney making a live-action Spider-man TV show featuring Holland on Disney+. Is that a possibility or does Holland's contract exclude the chance of it happening? Sony own all the live action rights, not just movies. Lord and Miller have been put in charge of Sony's live-action Spider-Verse TV project, which will include Peter Parker (though maybe not Tom Holland's version). www.cnet.com/news/new-spider-man-universe-tv-series-will-be-really-special/Probably Peter B. Parker, who is supposed to be the Earth-616 Spidey (aka, the "main universe" of the comics). Though since it is a multiverse, they can pull a Peter Parker out of any of them except for the Ultimate universe (which is what Miles' home universe is represented by in ItSV IIRC) and Spider-Gwen's home universe where Peter is also dead.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 29, 2019 17:01:02 GMT -5
Probably Peter B. Parker, who is supposed to be the Earth-616 Spidey (aka, the "main universe" of the comics). Though since it is a multiverse, they can pull a Peter Parker out of any of them except for the Ultimate universe (which is what Miles' home universe is represented by in ItSV IIRC) and Spider-Gwen's home universe where Peter is also dead. Pretty much no show, cartoon or movie can be or ever will be -616. And they can still pull him out of those as well, in two different ways. From an earlier time period where he's still alive, or (cheating a bit) by finding another near-identical reality. In theory, thanks to branched timelines, there's - again, in theory - an uncountable number of Ultimate universes out there, just like there is any reality.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 29, 2019 17:04:18 GMT -5
Probably Peter B. Parker, who is supposed to be the Earth-616 Spidey (aka, the "main universe" of the comics). Though since it is a multiverse, they can pull a Peter Parker out of any of them except for the Ultimate universe (which is what Miles' home universe is represented by in ItSV IIRC) and Spider-Gwen's home universe where Peter is also dead. Live action Peter B. Parker has to still be played by Jake Johnson. I decree this.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 29, 2019 20:24:47 GMT -5
Probably Peter B. Parker, who is supposed to be the Earth-616 Spidey (aka, the "main universe" of the comics). Though since it is a multiverse, they can pull a Peter Parker out of any of them except for the Ultimate universe (which is what Miles' home universe is represented by in ItSV IIRC) and Spider-Gwen's home universe where Peter is also dead. Pretty much no show, cartoon or movie can be or ever will be -616. And they can still pull him out of those as well, in two different ways. From an earlier time period where he's still alive, or (cheating a bit) by finding another near-identical reality. In theory, thanks to branched timelines, there's - again, in theory - an uncountable number of Ultimate universes out there, just like there is any reality. ITSV is its own thing and not canon to the comics, but Peter B. Parker is from Earth-616 according to the dimensional portal thing that the Kingpin had built in that movie.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 29, 2019 20:29:20 GMT -5
Pretty much no show, cartoon or movie can be or ever will be -616. And they can still pull him out of those as well, in two different ways. From an earlier time period where he's still alive, or (cheating a bit) by finding another near-identical reality. In theory, thanks to branched timelines, there's - again, in theory - an uncountable number of Ultimate universes out there, just like there is any reality. ITSV is its own thing and not canon to the comics, but Peter B. Parker is from Earth-616 according to the dimensional portal thing that the Kingpin had built in that movie. I can say with certainty that it's not 616 Peter, no matter what anything in the film says.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 30, 2019 0:42:54 GMT -5
Pretty much no show, cartoon or movie can be or ever will be -616. And they can still pull him out of those as well, in two different ways. From an earlier time period where he's still alive, or (cheating a bit) by finding another near-identical reality. In theory, thanks to branched timelines, there's - again, in theory - an uncountable number of Ultimate universes out there, just like there is any reality. ITSV is its own thing and not canon to the comics, but Peter B. Parker is from Earth-616 according to the dimensional portal thing that the Kingpin had built in that movie. That's not how Marvel's Multiverse works, though. Every iteration of a character is from a different number universe. For example, the MCU is Earth-19999. So, Peter B. Parker, because he never appeared in anything before Into the Spider-Verse, would be from an all new numbered Earth.
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Post by thechase on Aug 30, 2019 4:59:23 GMT -5
616 is free game in my estimation. It's been an unofficial alternate universe since One More Day
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 5:21:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it would be virtually impossible to make any sort of adaptation featuring the 616 version of someone just due to what a nightmare it'd be to arrange it to fit into continuity both ways going.
And really I don't even know why you'd bother to try, given Marvel has infinite universes with infinite possibilities, and they pretty much consider every adaptation ever in canon except Fant4stic.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 30, 2019 16:09:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it would be virtually impossible to make any sort of adaptation featuring the 616 version of someone just due to what a nightmare it'd be to arrange it to fit into continuity both ways going. And really I don't even know why you'd bother to try, given Marvel has infinite universes with infinite possibilities, and they pretty much consider every adaptation ever in canon except Fant4stic. Yeah, for that to work, Marvel would have needed to publish a mainline Spidey comic where he actually disappears through a dimensional rip, and then leave him out of comics until like a week after the movie comes out, then actually have him come back through with memories of the movie. This certainly didn't happen.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Aug 30, 2019 16:25:23 GMT -5
So do you think something will be tacked to the end of the DVD release for “Far From Home”? Like a card reading: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Peter Parker, his Aunt, MJ and his friends were forced by SHIELD to go into hiding after the Jameson broadcast..
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Spider-Man will probably not return ..
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 30, 2019 19:05:08 GMT -5
So do you think something will be tacked to the end of the DVD release for “Far From Home”? Like a card reading: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Peter Parker, his Aunt, MJ and his friends were forced by SHIELD to go into hiding after the Jameson broadcast..
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Spider-Man will probably not return .. Honestly? That mid-credit scene sucked. Like, breaks the entire thing if they go through with it sucked. Marvel had to do some asspull or another just to undo it in the comics, so why they allowed it into the MCU I'll never know. Then again, I also can't believe they basically made Spider-Man Tony Stark's Robin, either.
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