Charlotte vs Bayley again...

[fw91]

Like I really enjoyed Charlotte's promo, but we know how this is going to go. Can't Bayley drop it against someone else as a transition back to Charlotte before mania season just for the sake of avoiding repetition?

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Other than Asuka, I can't really think of anyone else besides Charlotte. And you know they're not going to do anything with Asuka. I guess there's Carmella, but would Charlotte getting it again really be any worse than another Mella title reign? You can at least usually count on Charlotte to deliver a good match, even though I like Mella.

[dbrussel]

After beating Trish and sending her home in her minivan, I think Charlotte is ready, brother!!!

It's time to put the title on her and see what happens

[fw91]

Aug 20, 2019 21:36:00 GMT -5 @dax said:

Other than Asuka, I can't really think of anyone else besides Charlotte. And you know they're not going to do anything with Asuka. I guess there's Carmella, but would Charlotte getting it again really be any worse than another Mella title reign?

idk is Bayley really flaming out that quick or is it, "Charlotte is our "Ace" what can we do with her besides give her the strap?" Like who's next after Charlotte? Ember get's another chance, Sarah Logan?

[Sponsored by Groose Wipes]

When did Charlotte steal Batista's cheat code book for unlimited title matches?

[IgnahtaSempria]

Aug 20, 2019 21:41:53 GMT -5 Sponsored by Groose Wipes said:

When did Charlotte steal Batista's cheat code book for unlimited title matches?

When she had the fortune of being born the daughter of the boss's idol.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

I mean she has a big win over Trish so it makes sense to be the next challenger

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It has got the same problem though not quite to the extent of the womens tag scene which had all their possible contenders beaten within a week by the current champs.

But there is no one else no matter who wins....because no one else has been built up enough to get slotted in and those that could either just finised losing to both the champ and new contender in succession or have completely faded from relevency.

[Shark]

I actually had this thought over the last few days since it seems all signs are pointing in this direction, Charlotte is going to get the title from Bayley, I just know it in my bones now, and Sasha is likely to get the Raw title from Becky, that might even be short lived and Becky could get it right back. If the Survivor Series theme holds true, then it means we will get Becky vs Charlotte in the battle of champions yet again. Unless they do something different this year and have the solo champions team up to face the tag champions.

[mistery]

Aug 20, 2019 22:13:31 GMT -5 @sigmax said:

It has got the same problem though not quite to the extent of the womens tag scene which had all their possible contenders beaten within a week by the current champs.

But there is no one else no matter who wins....because no one else has been built up enough to get slotted in and those that could either just finised losing to both the champ and new contender in succession or have completely faded from relevency.

That and WWE just refuses to build up anyone who isn't named Charlotte either. The entire division seems to revolve around her, Alexa, and I guess Becky. And its problematic to say the least. It's not that other women can't be stars. It's just that WWE either refuses to build up said women or they just kneecap anyone who threatens to overtake Charlotte or Alexa in terms of popularity (although to be fair, its not hard to overtake Charlotte in terms of audience support either).

[BigAl]

Aug 20, 2019 21:37:37 GMT -5 dbrussel said:

After beating Trish and sending her home in her minivan, I think Charlotte is ready, brother!!!

It's time to put the title on her and see what happens

Nothing, except for her to hold on to it till she drops it to someone like Becky again

[BigAl]

Aug 20, 2019 22:40:24 GMT -5 Shark said:

I actually had this thought over the last few days since it seems all signs are pointing in this direction, Charlotte is going to get the title from Bayley, I just know it in my bones now, and Sasha is likely to get the Raw title from Becky, that might even be short lived and Becky could get it right back. If the Survivor Series theme holds true, then it means we will get Becky vs Charlotte in the battle of champions yet again. Unless they do something different this year and have the solo champions team up to face the tag champions.

Of course we'll get Becky vs Charlotte again WWE writers and Vince so bankrupt that they think we want to see the same thing over and over again guess what we don't

[fw91]

Aug 20, 2019 22:51:21 GMT -5 mistery said:

Aug 20, 2019 22:13:31 GMT -5 @sigmax said:

It has got the same problem though not quite to the extent of the womens tag scene which had all their possible contenders beaten within a week by the current champs.

But there is no one else no matter who wins....because no one else has been built up enough to get slotted in and those that could either just finised losing to both the champ and new contender in succession or have completely faded from relevency.

That and WWE just refuses to build up anyone who isn't named Charlotte either. The entire division seems to revolve around her, Alexa, and I guess Becky. And its problematic to say the least. It's not that other women can't be stars. It's just that WWE either refuses to build up said women or they just kneecap anyone who threatens to overtake Charlotte or Alexa in terms of popularity.

I'd include Becky in the Charlotte/Alexa group.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Aug 20, 2019 23:01:00 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Aug 20, 2019 22:51:21 GMT -5 mistery said:

That and WWE just refuses to build up anyone who isn't named Charlotte either. The entire division seems to revolve around her, Alexa, and I guess Becky. And its problematic to say the least. It's not that other women can't be stars. It's just that WWE either refuses to build up said women or they just kneecap anyone who threatens to overtake Charlotte or Alexa in terms of popularity.

I'd include Becky in the Charlotte/Alexa group.

I’d like to see the argument as to how she isn’t. Just on TV win/loss records this year alone, it almost borders on wilful ignorance...

Bliss: 11-9-0
Flair: 10-8-1
Lynch: 23-3-0

[theironyuppie]

Aug 20, 2019 23:07:30 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Aug 20, 2019 23:01:00 GMT -5 fw91 said:

I'd include Becky in the Charlotte/Alexa group.

I’d like to see the argument as to how she isn’t. Just on TV win/loss records this year alone, it almost borders on wilful ignorance...

Bliss: 11-9-0
Flair: 10-8-1
Lynch: 23-3-0

Yeah, she’s had one clean loss in the last calendar year (Asuka at the Rumble) and that got erased by Becky winning the Rumble on one leg and Asuka disappearing from TV for weeks.

If anything, the paranoia about Charlotte/Alexa helped WWE get away with the monster push they gave Becky.

[mistery]

Aug 20, 2019 23:07:30 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Aug 20, 2019 23:01:00 GMT -5 fw91 said:

I'd include Becky in the Charlotte/Alexa group.

I’d like to see the argument as to how she isn’t. Just on TV win/loss records this year alone, it almost borders on wilful ignorance...

Bliss: 11-9-0
Flair: 10-8-1
Lynch: 23-3-0

I'm going off of crowd reactions, to be honest. No one has even remotely approached Becky's level of popularity with viewers. Meanwhile you have Alexa who is lukewarm at the absolute best, and same goes with Charlotte. But any time someone even approaches their current level of popularity, they get kneecapped. Meanwhile every other woman on the roster is wasting away. And we all know Charlotte is likely regaining the title at Clash of Champions. Leading into a Survivor Series feud between her and Becky or Sasha. Meanwhile you have women like Kairi, Asuka, Ember, Naomi, Liv, etc all wasting away.

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I was not a fan of hers but seriously Lacey Evans could be feuding with Asuka or Kairi right now coming out of her title feud with Becky and it would do wonders for both women to establish themselves or in Asukas case reestablish herself as a serious contender for either title.

Must be the edict from above that women cannot have feuds unless titles are involved and considering the titles revolve around the same damn women it's a never ending cycle.

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Lord. I used to defend Charlotte because she’s super talented and I thought people treated her too harshly, but there are few things in wrestling I want to see less than Charlotte in another World Title feud/with the belt again.

She’s like Batista back in the day. Always lurking and ready to get a PPV title match.

[Dub H]

Aug 20, 2019 23:07:30 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Aug 20, 2019 23:01:00 GMT -5 fw91 said:

I'd include Becky in the Charlotte/Alexa group.

I’d like to see the argument as to how she isn’t. Just on TV win/loss records this year alone, it almost borders on wilful ignorance...

Bliss: 11-9-0
Flair: 10-8-1
Lynch: 23-3-0

It is more about constant presence and big wins than just numbers.All three definitely have a monopoly on those right now.


Also I will never forgive how they treated Asuka. Both times she faced Charlotte was all downhill for nothing not related just venting.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Aug 20, 2019 23:16:04 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

Lord. I used to defend Charlotte because she’s super talented and I thought people treated her too harshly, but there are few things in wrestling I want to see less than Charlotte in another World Title feud/with the belt again.

She’s like Batista back in the day. Always lurking and ready to get a PPV title match.

And that’s really the root issue here. Flair is legitimately one of the best women talents they have in-ring wise, in the prime of her career, but they’ve given her so much already it leaves her in this weird area where it’s like hardly anyone wants her at the level she SHOULD be at, but she’s too good to be lower than it, if that makes sense.