lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 14, 2019 18:38:00 GMT -5
Im biased here since most of the deathmatch dudes are my homies. So f*** Cornette and his hypocritical opinions
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 18:39:00 GMT -5
Not everything he says comes from his podcast The butterface comment was not from his podcast. Snitch tweeting started that Fair enough on that. But people that say he’s full of hate and all of this should listen to the podcasts in context. Here's the thing, no one is saying Jim goes on his podcast and just spiels hateful rhetoric 24/7. What people are saying is he is an angry man who will use opportunities to just rant and rave about shit and go over the top because he can. I mean, people are defending him because it is a "gimmick". Gimmick or not, there is a basis for this and he just keeps doing it in ways that really shouldn't be defended. I was just joking only flies so far. His hate on Russo is real but he obviously is going to overplay it because he can. Telling someone get back in the kitchen because you disagree with them or calling someone a transvestite because you don't get them isn't funny or endearing. It is either ignorant or just playing to a fanbase that will eat it up. The ending point is, Jim has way too much on his ledger to just write off as out of context
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 18:42:40 GMT -5
Fair enough on that. But people that say he’s full of hate and all of this should listen to the podcasts in context. Honestly, if a dude’s going to counter people who try to debate him at a reasonable level (not Starr, Ryan etc, people like Grace and Sean Sapp who do genuinely want to debate and not insult) and he counters by insulting them and saying they’re ruining the business, why should I then listen to the podcast? Like, you lost any moral high ground you have by doing that stuff, I don’t care how much history you’ve seen or know about. Or just in instances where he is shit talking people because he can like with the Bucks. How does it come across that you basically have painted them as wrestlings biggest monster and then when you see them you smile in their face like they are in the joke. When I brought this up earlier, the response was well does have the Bucks have to be in on it? Because, while Jim make think this is funny and only believes 60% of what he says, spewing that rhetoric can potentially take money out their pockets. You are shit talking my name which is my brand, why would I think this is a joke
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Sept 14, 2019 19:02:44 GMT -5
Why would I willingly subject myself to more Cornette if my opinion of him is so low based on... well, everything else? Because it can be, you know, entertaining.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2019 19:06:32 GMT -5
Why would I willingly subject myself to more Cornette if my opinion of him is so low based on... well, everything else? Because it can be, you know, entertaining. Nothing about him entertains me now. Why would I think him in longform would do the trick? It's not a logical train of thought, but thank you for the condescending reply.
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Post by KofiMania on Sept 14, 2019 19:22:28 GMT -5
Because it can be, you know, entertaining. Nothing about him entertains me now. Why would I think him in longform would do the trick? It's not a logical train of thought, but thank you for the condescending reply. How can you know nothing he does now entertains you if you’ve never listened, I think is the point.
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Post by KofiMania on Sept 14, 2019 19:23:32 GMT -5
Fair enough on that. But people that say he’s full of hate and all of this should listen to the podcasts in context. Here's the thing, no one is saying Jim goes on his podcast and just spiels hateful rhetoric 24/7. What people are saying is he is an angry man who will use opportunities to just rant and rave about shit and go over the top because he can. I mean, people are defending him because it is a "gimmick". Gimmick or not, there is a basis for this and he just keeps doing it in ways that really shouldn't be defended. I was just joking only flies so far. His hate on Russo is real but he obviously is going to overplay it because he can. Telling someone get back in the kitchen because you disagree with them or calling someone a transvestite because you don't get them isn't funny or endearing. It is either ignorant or just playing to a fanbase that will eat it up. The ending point is, Jim has way too much on his ledger to just write off as out of context Again you’re calling him an “angry man” but that’s never the impression I’ve gotten after listening to his stuff.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2019 19:27:38 GMT -5
Because Cornette doesn't exist in a vacuum, and every other medium I've seen him in I've only found him obnoxious and grating.
I don't need to watch Pewdiepie's videos to know he's a piece of shit either from everything else that exists for him.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 14, 2019 19:29:41 GMT -5
Cornette is off-putting to many people, and if you don't get that point of his personality and/or gimmick, even as a fan, I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse.
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Post by KofiMania on Sept 14, 2019 19:34:22 GMT -5
Because Cornette doesn't exist in a vacuum, and every other medium I've seen him in I've only found him obnoxious and grating. I don't need to watch Pewdiepie's videos to know he's a piece of shit either from everything else that exists for him. Yeah I found Cornette to be the same just going from what I read for a while until I actually listened to the podcasts. Pretty entertaining stuff.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 14, 2019 19:37:02 GMT -5
Cornette is off-putting to many people, and if you don't get that point of his personality and/or gimmick, even as a fan, I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. AM I BEING OBTUSE NOW ?!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 19:39:35 GMT -5
Here's the thing, no one is saying Jim goes on his podcast and just spiels hateful rhetoric 24/7. What people are saying is he is an angry man who will use opportunities to just rant and rave about shit and go over the top because he can. I mean, people are defending him because it is a "gimmick". Gimmick or not, there is a basis for this and he just keeps doing it in ways that really shouldn't be defended. I was just joking only flies so far. His hate on Russo is real but he obviously is going to overplay it because he can. Telling someone get back in the kitchen because you disagree with them or calling someone a transvestite because you don't get them isn't funny or endearing. It is either ignorant or just playing to a fanbase that will eat it up. The ending point is, Jim has way too much on his ledger to just write off as out of context Again you’re calling him an “angry man” but that’s never the impression I’ve gotten after listening to his stuff. So you do not get anger from him out of calling individuals out their name, his repeated rants on Russo which is now cartoonish, the video of him with Chris and Lance at Dairy Queen and him calling someone a "f***ing ugly bitch" because they took too long with his order or putting his hands on Santino Dairy Queen video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngpAHJNDhQAlso disclaimer, yes Jericho has said it is mostly his fault for egging on Cornette as they were waiting, but he knew to egg on Cornette because of his temperament and how this would turn out. All of this is not just purely from the podcast, we are talking Jim all over.
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Post by KofiMania on Sept 14, 2019 19:44:46 GMT -5
Again you’re calling him an “angry man” but that’s never the impression I’ve gotten after listening to his stuff. So you do not get anger from him out of calling individuals out their name, his repeated rants on Russo which is now cartoonish, the video of him with Chris and Lance at Dairy Queen and him calling someone a "f***ing ugly bitch" because they took too long with his order or putting his hands on Santino Dairy Queen video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngpAHJNDhQAlso disclaimer, yes Jericho has said it is mostly his fault for egging on Cornette as they were waiting, but he knew to egg on Cornette because of his temperament and how this would turn out. All of this is not just purely from the podcast, we are talking Jim all over. Sure he has a temper in certain situations (the Dairy Queen thing was hilarious) and I get the sense he definitely legit doesn’t like Russo but I meant more the things people bring up that he says on his podcast, where he’s reviewing current wresting shows.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 19:52:07 GMT -5
So you do not get anger from him out of calling individuals out their name, his repeated rants on Russo which is now cartoonish, the video of him with Chris and Lance at Dairy Queen and him calling someone a "f***ing ugly bitch" because they took too long with his order or putting his hands on Santino Dairy Queen video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngpAHJNDhQAlso disclaimer, yes Jericho has said it is mostly his fault for egging on Cornette as they were waiting, but he knew to egg on Cornette because of his temperament and how this would turn out. All of this is not just purely from the podcast, we are talking Jim all over. Sure he has a temper in certain situations (the Dairy Queen thing was hilarious) and I get the sense he definitely legit doesn’t like Russo but I meant more the things people bring up that he says on his podcast, where he’s reviewing current wresting shows. Slapping someone on the job isn't just having a temper Once again, this has never been about Jim just saying stuff on his podcast, this has been about Jim as a whole. As I said already, no one is saying Jim just spews hateful rhetoric on his podcast, people are taking examples of when he has used this language in his podcast But, this is what I mean. I gave a few different examples of Jim being an "angry man" but yet if it only happens on his podcast he's "working people". So which is it? Are we saying he is always working people because he has shown instances of anger outside his podcast and is there a little element of truth behind whatever he says when he does decide to rant? My basic whole thing has been saying since jump, real life Jim and the character Jim isn't all that different. People can find it entertaining and no I don't think when he does rant that he believes 100% of everything he says but he's not pulling this stuff out his ass for entertainment value imo
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2019 20:00:06 GMT -5
See, the Dairy Queen video I find disgusting and not funny or entertaining in the slightest.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 20:05:56 GMT -5
See, the Dairy Queen video I find disgusting and not funny or entertaining in the slightest. I feel like it is the perfect example for this thread You find it funny and think "classic Cornette" or you are put off by how someone could be so angry about an order. Yes, we've all been mad in our lives but to that extent idk
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2019 20:15:06 GMT -5
See, the Dairy Queen video I find disgusting and not funny or entertaining in the slightest. I feel like it is the perfect example for this thread You find it funny and think "classic Cornette" or you are put off by how someone could be so angry about an order. Yes, we've all been mad in our lives but to that extent idk As someone who used to work retail and knows how much of a shit job it is, especially in fast food land, I'm really put off by anything that glorifies abusive customers.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 14, 2019 20:31:31 GMT -5
Well I'm going to take the middle ground and say that both Cornette and G raver are massive twats who need to shut the f*** up.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Sept 14, 2019 22:09:00 GMT -5
Nothing about him entertains me now. Why would I think him in longform would do the trick? It's not a logical train of thought, but thank you for the condescending reply. How can you know nothing he does now entertains you if you’ve never listened, I think is the point. Thank you. His podcasts are not wall-to-Wall bile, by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 14, 2019 22:15:54 GMT -5
How can you know nothing he does now entertains you if you’ve never listened, I think is the point. Thank you. His podcasts are not wall-to-Wall bile, by any stretch of the imagination. No one has claimed that. Some of you are arguing points not even being presented.
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