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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 12, 2020 0:59:22 GMT -5
Due to the Miz feud, we do know Dolph Ziggler and Nicky from the Spirit Squad are indeed the same person.
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Post by repomark on Jun 12, 2020 6:30:53 GMT -5
At the time I had no idea Repo and Smash were one in the same. I remember even having Smash (who was in the midst of a big singles push) beat Repo Man en route to winning the WWF title in my Hasbro toy world. I was oblivious.
Of course, Repo Man didn’t need the belt to be a star. I knew that even then.
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 12, 2020 7:32:44 GMT -5
Brutus mentioned Baron Beefcake as a name someone suggested to him when he debuted in WWF. Was he mistaken given the online joke or was it really a name suggested?
I think it would be cool if Barry Darsow in late 1990s came out to a Demolition gimmick as I think Saturday Night was so low on the WCW totem pole at the time that WWF may not have tried to sue.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jun 12, 2020 7:48:09 GMT -5
I think Earthquake/Avalanche/Shark/John Tenta were all the same guy. Was the Shockmaster linked back to Tugboat/Typhoon? Also, Super Shockmaster was explicitly not the Shockmaster.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 12, 2020 8:58:15 GMT -5
I have a memory of Kevin Nash acknowledging Oz and Vinnie Vegas on TV, but Im not sure when. I remember thinking "Don't forget Master Blaster Steel." Is it still Kayfabe if it's part of joking around on screen by an Outsider?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 8:59:14 GMT -5
Al Snow, Leif Cassidy and Avatar were confirmed to be the same person back when Snow was going nuts for some reason on 1999/2000 Raw or Smackdown...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 10:09:26 GMT -5
Festus and Luke Gallows were the same guy.
CM Punk said Festus acted that way because he was drugged up.
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Post by Aceorton on Jun 12, 2020 11:06:32 GMT -5
Fatu in The Headshrinkers, "Make a Difference" Fatu and Rikishi were all considered the same guy. However The Sultan was not. I could actually buy that Headshrinker Fatu was a different person than Make a Difference Fatu, unless maybe I'm not remembering them explaining in '95 why he had acted like an island savage who couldn't speak English for all those years. The fact that he kept the name Fatu for the Make a Difference gimmick makes it a hard call.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 12, 2020 11:14:02 GMT -5
If I recall, the name "Godfather" started out with them calling Kama Mustafa "The Godfather of the Nation" before it just became his new name.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 11:19:55 GMT -5
Really interesting thread. OP maybe change the title to make it all encompassing?
Was there any mentioned link between PJ Walker, Aldo Montoya and Justin Credible (especially during his Low Down etc run)?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 11:46:18 GMT -5
I seem to remember during the 15th Anniversary episode of Raw, Repo comes out and JR mentions that he is a former tag champion. I guess he kinda implied that he was a member of Demolition. Eh...combination of being too after-the-fact to matter and JR doing JR things. Speaking of...IRS is sort of an interesting example--was he Mike Rotundo or not? At King of the Ring '93 Ross says that IRS has been tag champion with "3 different partners on 4 different occasions"--which is actually only 2 partners, but was a clear unspoken assumption that IRS and Rotunda were the same person. Then there's Vince's "Mr. Rotunda...?" blunder on Raw, which IRS didn't acknowledge, but...it happened. Despite all that I lean towards them being different people. Crush, as I mentioned a few weeks ago, is another is-he-or-isn't-he example. Outside of one mention by Johnny Polo on Coliseum Video--another instance of being after-the-fact and nobody really paying attention to him--it was never said that Kona Crush was the same person as Demolition Crush...yet, they never quite said it was somebody brand-new, either. I learn towards all the Crushes being the same person, though Facepaint Crush and Jailbird Crush are obviously overtly the same. I'd say IRS was Rotundo: Michael Wallstreet '91 was acknowledged to be Mike Rotunda formerly of the Varsity Club. Michael Wallstreet '95 made a wink-wink-nudge reference to "the IRS" in his first appearance on Nitro. I think there was just one Crush. Since they basically stopped acknowledging Demolition completely after '91, it makes sense that they wouldn't talk about his past.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 12, 2020 12:20:09 GMT -5
I think Earthquake/Avalanche/Shark/John Tenta were all the same guy. Was the Shockmaster linked back to Tugboat/Typhoon? Also, Super Shockmaster was explicitly not the Shockmaster. Avalanche/Shark/Tenta definitely were. As per his "I'm not a fish, I'm not an avalanche" speech. Naturally they could not mention Quake. Yep...first, there was commentary acknowledging that Booty Man was a spy, linking him to Zodiac. Though...they didn't specifically say Zodiac was the former Brother Bruti/Butcher/Man with No Name. But in 1998, Roddy Piper did a promo linking Disciple to all of the above, including I believe the WWF gimmicks. In ECW. Aside from the "Aldo" chants, there was a Halloween house show where certain wrestlers showed up in costume. Credible wore the Aldo Montoya mask and said how stupid it was.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jun 12, 2020 14:09:08 GMT -5
I never knew the repo man was smash at first
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 12, 2020 15:58:46 GMT -5
Yep
He switched careers from demolishing things to repossessing them
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 17:13:36 GMT -5
Mabel and Viscera are the same person as kidnapping by Taker was the reason for the change and he went by the Viscera name as World's Largest Love Machine, but is Big Daddy V the same character?
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Post by fg on Jun 12, 2020 17:31:20 GMT -5
Mabel and Viscera are the same person as kidnapping by Taker was the reason for the change and he went by the Viscera name as World's Largest Love Machine, but is Big Daddy V the same character? Yes. WWE’s now defunct magazine did an interview with him where he said that he couldn’t truly hate being the Worlds Largest Love Machine
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 12, 2020 18:19:05 GMT -5
Yep He switched careers from demolishing things to repossessing them Times were tough in WWE. Not only was Macho so poorly paid he had to finance a hat, he missed payments on it and got it repossessed.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 12, 2020 18:38:43 GMT -5
If I recall, the name "Godfather" started out with them calling Kama Mustafa "The Godfather of the Nation" before it just became his new name. The Godfather thing always really confused me. In the infamous DX impersonating the Nation skit I don't even remember the Godfather having the pimp gimmick so I was confused by whatever Billy Gunn was doing. I thought he was still Kama Mustafa at the time. And then after the DX impersonation then all of a sudden he had the pimp gimmick. I watched every week back then but I always feel like I missed something there. When exactly did Kama switch to The Godfather?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 12, 2020 18:46:41 GMT -5
If I recall, the name "Godfather" started out with them calling Kama Mustafa "The Godfather of the Nation" before it just became his new name. The Godfather thing always really confused me. In the infamous DX impersonating the Nation skit I don't even remember the Godfather having the pimp gimmick so I was confused by whatever Billy Gunn was doing. I thought he was still Kama Mustafa at the time. And then after the DX impersonation then all of a sudden he had the pimp gimmick. I watched every week back then but I always feel like I missed something there. When exactly did Kama switch to The Godfather? It happened so gradually you didn’t even notice. Like how Fox became a hardcore sex channel back in 2010.
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 12, 2020 19:52:04 GMT -5
The Godfather thing always really confused me. In the infamous DX impersonating the Nation skit I don't even remember the Godfather having the pimp gimmick so I was confused by whatever Billy Gunn was doing. I thought he was still Kama Mustafa at the time. And then after the DX impersonation then all of a sudden he had the pimp gimmick. I watched every week back then but I always feel like I missed something there. When exactly did Kama switch to The Godfather? I thought the same thing at the time. I think either Kama had started the gimmick on Shotgun or maybe the gimmick had been played with backstage but not on TV. I watched all WWF TV but Shotgun and I definitely don't remember him with the all black pimp outfit anytime before the DX skit. I know he had a 1998 Comic Images trading card made of him in the black pimp outfit and a lot of guys had cards that were rarely on TV so maybe he had done it at a house show or Shotgun.
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