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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 16, 2020 16:37:06 GMT -5
apparently they invested a lot into it and Traylor himself actually went through the legit training process. Indeed. For a time he was actually registered as a member of the organisation and if tales are to be believed he actually participated in a few patrols. Between that, Mick Foley being willing to let Vader powerbomb him on the concrete floor a second time, and John Tenta changing his tiger tattoo, mid-'90s WCW midcarders really went above and beyond for their gimmicks. Makes it more sad that instead of rewarding guys who were so dedicated like that, they didn't do anything with them. Had to suck for Traylor and Tenta to go so above and beyond for their gimmick changes only to both get repackaged again after less then a year. Oddly enough by the end of both of their runs after the numerous repackagings they were both wrestling under their real names. They even did similar promos denouncing all their previous personas although Traylor's came off a lot better then Tenta's infamous "I'm not a fish" promo.
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Post by Zen411 on Jun 16, 2020 21:45:44 GMT -5
When I was a kid, finding out one man gang and akeem were the same person it blew my mind. I missed the transformation ceremony and didn't know they acknowledged the change on TV.
I feel like they played solo British Bulldog and tag team Davey Boy Smith as separate people. Am I wrong? Once solo braided Davey Boy showed up they never mentioned Dynamite or his tag team past.
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 16, 2020 22:39:45 GMT -5
I can't believe John Tenta agreed to the tattoo change but I'm sure somewhere on this board from when he was a member is an answer to why he did it. I'm sure he expected a bigger run but it didn't happen. There is a post of an up close look at the tattoo and it looks pretty great with all the detail but on TV all it looked like was a colorful square with no detail.
I knew Akeem and OMG were the same but I also never saw the transformation so didn't know the inside jokes about it early on. The first I ever heard of anything on TV that they may have referred to him as OMG was when Vince said "Africa by way of south Chicago" on a Superstars show but I didn't know he was already established as being the Gang early on as Akeem.
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Post by petef3 on Jun 16, 2020 22:44:28 GMT -5
When I was a kid, finding out one man gang and akeem were the same person it blew my mind. I missed the transformation ceremony and didn't know they acknowledged the change on TV. I feel like they played solo British Bulldog and tag team Davey Boy Smith as separate people. Am I wrong? Once solo braided Davey Boy showed up they never mentioned Dynamite or his tag team past. There's a 1992-era Coliseum Video with wrestlers giving trivia questions between matches, and Davey Boy's is to name his old tag title partner. But I don't know how much of his past was brought up on TV, and Dynamite certainly never was by name except on that Video.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 16, 2020 23:38:04 GMT -5
When I was a kid, finding out one man gang and akeem were the same person it blew my mind. I missed the transformation ceremony and didn't know they acknowledged the change on TV. I feel like they played solo British Bulldog and tag team Davey Boy Smith as separate people. Am I wrong? Once solo braided Davey Boy showed up they never mentioned Dynamite or his tag team past. Solo Davey Boy and tag team Davey Boy were definitely treated as the same person. In his return match it was definitely treated as a return for him as Gorilla and Heenan talked about his time away and how he had gotten bigger and stronger since he was last seen there. In his early solo promos Davey Boy would also talk about he was back in the World Wrestling Federation and while he was away he still watching the WWF on TV in England and seeing guys like "Mistah Perfect" and "The Woahload" and how he was coming back to take care of them. Dynamite or the British Bulldogs team was never mentioned on TV until years later during Davey's third run when JR mentioned him however I'm sure that was more of a JR thing where he would go into business for himself and mention stuff from the past which was something that seemed to be frowned upon by the company pre attitude era. As mentioned above in another post above Dynamite was mentioned as the answer in that trivia segment on that Coliseum Video (believe it was Rampage '92) however that was the only mention of him during Davey's 90-92 run.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 20, 2020 14:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 20, 2020 14:10:44 GMT -5
George Gray was Afrikaaner. He was born in South Africa, but moved to America because he opposed apartheid and supported the release of Nelson Mandela. Unfortunately he fell into a criminal lifestyle due to a lack of employment opportunities, but eventually began to question his life and defiantly renamed himself the One Man Gang and became a community organiser and advocate against youth delinquency, and this continued until he eventually reconnected with his African routes, and inspired by the teachings of Malcolm X, he changed his name to Akeem, which is Arabic for "the enlightened one"
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 20, 2020 14:22:32 GMT -5
Thanks to ECW, we know that Doink (at least the heel version) was the same as Matt Borne,but did Borne ever bring up Big Josh in kayfabe? Not exactly the same thing, but when Tracey Smothers went to SMW, he did an interview pointing out that he was NOT from Wyoming (where the young pistols were supposedly from).
Is The Supreme Fighting Machine Kama the same guy as Kama Mustafa/Godfather? Is Scotty The Body (or Scotty Flamingo for that matter) the same guy as Raven/Johnny Polo? Were Heavy Metal Van Hammer and Flock/Hippie/Hateful Van Hammer/Major Stash one in the same?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 20, 2020 14:39:02 GMT -5
Kama was an MMA fighter who turned to black militancy in protest over oppressive racist society which held black men down from economic opportunity. Inspired by Farooq, he developed an entrepreneural spirit and then established a highly successful escort service, and when he retired, he bought a strip joint.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 20, 2020 16:50:22 GMT -5
Thanks to ECW, we know that Doink (at least the heel version) was the same as Matt Borne,but did Borne ever bring up Big Josh in kayfabe? Not exactly the same thing, but when Tracey Smothers went to SMW, he did an interview pointing out that he was NOT from Wyoming (where the young pistols were supposedly from). Is The Supreme Fighting Machine Kama the same guy as Kama Mustafa/Godfather? Is Scotty The Body (or Scotty Flamingo for that matter) the same guy as Raven/Johnny Polo? Were Heavy Metal Van Hammer and Flock/Hippie/Hateful Van Hammer/Major Stash one in the same? The Southern Boys and the Young Pistols were never implied to be two different teams. Now can we connect Smothers with Freddie Joe Floyd? The buildup to Raven's debut was Stevie Richards dressing like all of his past characters. After then, Tommy Dreamer did a promo where he called Raven a sellout for being Scotty/Johnny. Cactus Jack on the night of his heel turn acknowledged that Body, Flamingo, and Polo were just personas, and Raven was the real him. Raven made a vague reference to his past with Missy Hyatt, and when Luna was in ECW they implied they were an item in WWF backstage.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 20, 2020 17:49:53 GMT -5
I can't believe John Tenta agreed to the tattoo change but I'm sure somewhere on this board from when he was a member is an answer to why he did it. I'm sure he expected a bigger run but it didn't happen. There is a post of an up close look at the tattoo and it looks pretty great with all the detail but on TV all it looked like was a colorful square with no detail. I knew Akeem and OMG were the same but I also never saw the transformation so didn't know the inside jokes about it early on. The first I ever heard of anything on TV that they may have referred to him as OMG was when Vince said "Africa by way of south Chicago" on a Superstars show but I didn't know he was already established as being the Gang early on as Akeem. He answered in the WrestleCrap book, saying he knew he couldn’t go around being a shark with a tiger tattoo, so he had a coverup done and weeks later, he wasn’t the shark. He said he had a family to feed and if he wasn’t the Shark, someone else would be.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 20, 2020 18:00:43 GMT -5
Thanks to ECW, we know that Doink (at least the heel version) was the same as Matt Borne,but did Borne ever bring up Big Josh in kayfabe? Not exactly the same thing, but when Tracey Smothers went to SMW, he did an interview pointing out that he was NOT from Wyoming (where the young pistols were supposedly from). Is The Supreme Fighting Machine Kama the same guy as Kama Mustafa/Godfather? Is Scotty The Body (or Scotty Flamingo for that matter) the same guy as Raven/Johnny Polo? Were Heavy Metal Van Hammer and Flock/Hippie/Hateful Van Hammer/Major Stash one in the same? The Raven persona is definitely compatible with those other characters. I think in WCW it was shown that he was really from an affluent family and that his grunge character was a fraud. I can easily accept that a heavy metal guy might go through bizarre character changes too. Probably too many drugs from all those sold out world tours.
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jul 11, 2020 21:33:01 GMT -5
Were Baron Beefcake, Big Brother Booty, The Booty Man, Brother Bruti, Brute Force, Brutus Beefcake, The Butcher, The Clipmaster, The Disciple , Dizzy Golden, Dizzy Hogan, Ed Boulder, Eddie Golden, Eddie Hogan, The Mariner, The Man With No Face, The Man With No Name, and The Zodiac the same character? Baron Beefcake doesn't exist and never did. That was added to his online aliases as a joke by someone and never got corrected. Next you'll be telling us he never got a submission victory from "The Iron Beefclaw"
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