Jimmy Havoc's ex speaks out about his abuse to her

[octopus]

This was known amongst UK ranks.

[FinalGwen]

Horrific to read. Having to deal with people you love being suicidal is hard enough without someone using it as a psychological weapon and treating them like shit for trying to help them through it. I hope that we don't see him in AEW again.

[Mozenrath]

This does gel with some stuff that has happened that kinda paints the picture of a dude with a drinking problem who has lashed out and been self-destructive. There was also that time he got drunk and tried to fight Excalibur and smashed his own phone where I guess Khan had to talk to him, then he disappeared for a bit from AEW to finish up in MLW before coming back.

Dude needs to get some therapy, or get far away from wrestling, because he sounds like he's dangerous.

[Derk!]

Not surprised at that. Dude has that type of vibe to him.

Hope AEW cuts their ties to him ASAP or at the very least get him some help.

[markymark]

Jun 18, 2020 17:40:01 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

This does gel with some stuff that has happened that kinda paints the picture of a dude with a drinking problem who has lashed out and been self-destructive. There was also that time he got drunk and tried to fight Excalibur and smashed his own phone where I guess Khan had to talk to him, then he disappeared for a bit from AEW to finish up in MLW before coming back.

Dude needs to get some therapy, or get far away from wrestling, because he sounds like he's dangerous.

He already had a warning, wouldnt be surprised if he is gone for good.

Imo it would be a good idea having Starks take Havocs spot. 

[Fake Jesus]

I'm honestly surprised Havoc even came back after the Excalibur incident. Guy brings nothing to the table

[chrom]

Geez, what is it with UK wrestlers today?

[Mozenrath]

Jun 18, 2020 17:58:01 GMT -5 chrom said:

Geez, what is it with UK wrestlers today?

Accusations are often a "when it rains, it pours" kind of thing. People can be too intimidated to talk until they see others do it, or they can try to speak up and get ignored, so they jump in on these things to bring more attention to their accusations.

Sometimes, it's people with a score to settle being opportunistic, but by and large, false accusations are a rarity, and it's more like a house of cards toppling after one card is pulled.

[Deleted]

They really should have released him after the Excalibur thing.

[Natural Born Farmer]

Sounds like a guy with some real deep seated issues who had the misfortune to become successful playing into them, and at least one other person got pulled into his orbit.

Whether AEW keeps him around or not, dude should at least apologize and get some help.

[octopus]

Jun 18, 2020 18:07:17 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

They really should have released him after the Excalibur thing.

I don't think so, I think a lot of people around him are frightened as to what could happen if he has nobody keeping an eye on him. Sort of like with Dixie Carter and Kurt Angle. Havoc has big issues.

[toodarkmark]

I hope people don't wish a firing on Havoc because he becomes suicidal and abusive when he gets drunk. That sounds like someone who needs help, not a cancelation. Do people really think the best thing to do to someone suicidal is firing them?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Havoc's issues have been well documented. I honestly thought him being with AEW was to give him the support system he needed. The Excalibur thing I also thought was overexaggerated when all was said and done? But idk, AEW will have to see what happens with this and act accordingly. I really think Havoc is a good worker, and has a great presence with Sabian as a tag team, but it's really a matter of if he has changed and is willing to keep improving.

[Cyno]

Havoc sounds like he needs an intervention more than anything.

[Peeetah]

Jun 18, 2020 17:58:01 GMT -5 chrom said:

Geez, what is it with UK wrestlers today?

From the looks of things the entire British scene is a sewer and this day has been coming for a while.

[Starshine]

I remember briefly hearing about the bar fight thing, but never really looked into it more. I just thought it wasn't much of anything based on what little I'd heard. It seemed to be swept under the rug pretty quickly.

Reading all this, Jimmy could use some serious help. Thinking back to some of his Progress Wrestling stuff, thinking that a lot of that might be coming from a real place is very scary.

[thirteen3]

Knew he was a twat.

Seriously f*** people like him.

[THE FVNKER]

1. Not a fan of Jimmy Havoc.
2. Abuse in any form is never okay.

With those two things being said, I hope AEW, his family or others close to him can lead him to treatment or some other form of help. What I hope we dont see is the ever so present cancel culture going on a rampage over a guy who clearly has some issues that need medical attention. I'm so sorry that the lady had to go through it but the people calling for his career to be over are really just too much.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

This doesn't sound the same as the other ones.

Not that that makes his behaviour okay by any stretch.

But it sounds like he needs to get cleaned up and get some therapy rather than to be blackballed.

[Alice Syndrome]

Yeah, this isn't rape, but its severe emotional abuse, and I hope he makes a sincere apology for this (more than David's tire fire of an apology), and to her directly, and gets some really good therapy for it so he can fix his problems.

If he doesn't, then he can go away like the rest.