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Post by eJm on Apr 1, 2021 4:17:57 GMT -5
I think they’re mostly doing it well, but that’s my take. I like that wrestlers finally have friends again, at least. I think that's just how I see it. Like, there is a part of me that makes it feel forced but then that part of me likely isn't used to, like you said, wrestlers having allies and people having things to do. And as someone pointed out, there's a story involving a lot of people at once where The Dark Order is facing an ever-growing Hardy Family with Hangman, Shida and Conti thrown in that can have a lot of combinations at one time even before you consider people coming back from injury. EDIT: Also as others have said, it also makes people like Moxley stand out because they don't align themselves with anyone.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 1, 2021 4:24:50 GMT -5
the Inner Circle have a coherent group dynamic, but not really a group gimmick or look - if they have a logo that's consistent across their merch, I can't pull it out of my memory
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Post by evilone on Apr 1, 2021 4:43:50 GMT -5
Stables are a good way to put all the guys on TV without having to write for each and every one of them. Especially with constrained TV time and stacked roster stables are the way to package them all. Is it the proper way? I'm not sure. But what's the trade off if you want most of the guys to have their story line? Shorter matches. AEW roster is very deep and what I think would be perfect solution is to have flagship guys work 7 months in a year so roster can rotate and everyone can get into their own spotlight and no one looses on importance, like you don't relegate guys down the card. This also means some of them will get paid for sitting at home which is not a good business move.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 1, 2021 6:17:52 GMT -5
They been rumors about a trios title coming to AEW for a while now. I feel like this where its leading too.
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Post by mattyy on Apr 1, 2021 6:48:38 GMT -5
i just wish the stables were more even on the alignment chart. you've got a handful of face stables and a plethora of heel stables.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 1, 2021 7:19:46 GMT -5
i just wish the stables were more even on the alignment chart. you've got a handful of face stables and a plethora of heel stables. I feel like that's just kinda how it leans in wrestling. Heels love dominating in numbers. Though Dark Order are the biggest faction in the company and with the inclusions of Conti and Page at least in friendship they definitely have the biggest faction in the whole company. But they've also done a good job balancing out faces vs the heel factions, either with factions or common goal alliances.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 1, 2021 7:35:47 GMT -5
I'll take all the stables! I'm hardcore!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 1, 2021 8:01:32 GMT -5
Over saturation on the factions
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Post by Bad Moon on Apr 1, 2021 8:07:26 GMT -5
There was just a lengthy discussion on this in the Scorpio Sky thread. AEW draws its influence from NJPW. I, personally, find it more realistic that, in a dangerous environment like AEW, people would have allies, than for everyone to just be going it alone. Even if wouldn't need backup in case of an attack, you can't be a world class athlete in your sport without a team to train with, even in singles sports. Boxers have teams, MMA fighters have teams, f***ing ski jumpers have teams. If you don't have a team you're not taking your sport seriously.
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 1, 2021 8:07:37 GMT -5
I agree, too many stables.
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Post by moxfan1 on Apr 1, 2021 8:12:47 GMT -5
Stables are a good way to put all the guys on TV without having to write for each and every one of them. Especially with constrained TV time and stacked roster stables are the way to package them all. Is it the proper way? I'm not sure. But what's the trade off if you want most of the guys to have their story line? Shorter matches. AEW roster is very deep and what I think would be perfect solution is to have flagship guys work 7 months in a year so roster can rotate and everyone can get into their own spotlight and no one looses on importance, like you don't relegate guys down the card. This also means some of them will get paid for sitting at home which is not a good business move. This, AEW does it so they can get as many talented people on tv as possible. They also do it to help younger talent get over. Like they had Cody and then Jericho with MJF and then lead to a feud. Matt Hardy help put over Private Party and now he's trying Butcher and Blade too. While his attempted recruitment of Adam Page lead to Matt Hardy putting him over in a match. Then you got Sammy Guevara in the Inner Circle. Or Ricky Starks and Will Hobbs in Team Tazz. Not to mention Sting with Darby. So it's done to get people all on tv. But also put unknown talent with star to help get over to fans. Perfect example of that working is Darby Allin. 14 months ago he wasn't ratings draw at all. Now he can do make event with John Silver and be highest drawing thing on last week's show.
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Post by anglarite on Apr 1, 2021 8:35:57 GMT -5
If they are written and booked well, why not? The only issue is when stables are created just for the sake of it and then go straight directionless.
(I'm looking at you Retribution)
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Post by sfvega on Apr 1, 2021 9:46:08 GMT -5
I disagree with the amount of stables, which is the extent to which I can criticize the product.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 1, 2021 10:58:42 GMT -5
I really enjoy stables and I think it's a good way for them to differentiate themselves from WWE. I can say why other don't like it though....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:13:16 GMT -5
There was just a lengthy discussion on this in the Scorpio Sky thread. AEW draws its influence from NJPW. I, personally, find it more realistic that, in a dangerous environment like AEW, people would have allies, than for everyone to just be going it alone. Even if wouldn't need backup in case of an attack, you can't be a world class athlete in your sport without a team to train with, even in singles sports. Boxers have teams, MMA fighters have teams, f***ing ski jumpers have teams. If you don't have a team you're not taking your sport seriously. Completely agree. There are teams and camps in every "solo" sport. Even F-1, NASCAR, and the PGA have teams or camps. It's been beaten into our heads for decades by WWE's product that true stars are solo guys, and factions/stables are reserved for slimy, cheating heels only. So AEW being so ally/faction heavy is jarring.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Apr 1, 2021 11:20:23 GMT -5
Here we go again with the WWE brain rot. Whenever AEW does something in a different way from how WWE has done something for the past 20 years, whether it's having multiple stables or the way they pace their feuds, then it's automatically wrong in the eyes of some people.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Apr 1, 2021 11:26:18 GMT -5
Eh, different strokes I guess. It is a great way to get folks screen time when they are part of a larger group. It also makes booking less repetitive because you can prolong a feud by having a wrestler face off against one of their rival's teammates. As others have said, it makes way more sense to align yourself with others when you're in a company filled with people who also have allies. It makes the whole of AEW feel like a cohesive universe instead of just a place where wrestlers only really interact with the people they are feuding with.
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 1, 2021 11:26:23 GMT -5
Over saturation on the factions Which ones should be broken up, I wonder? Taz can still manage Powerhouse Hobbs, but Starks would be fine on his own (I miss his catchy game show theme anyway). Same with Brian Cage. Hook should just be training at the Nightmare Factory for now. Would trios count as stables/factions, or not?
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 1, 2021 11:28:17 GMT -5
I love having stables, as long as their formation and members make sense and they're different from each other. I think AEW have done a good job of organically grouping together wrestlers for a reason.
I just wish that the women's division had as much care when it comes to stables.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 1, 2021 11:43:36 GMT -5
Over saturation on the factions Which ones should be broken up, I wonder? Taz can still manage Powerhouse Hobbs, but Starks would be fine on his own (I miss his catchy game show theme anyway). Same with Brian Cage. Hook should just be training at the Nightmare Factory for now. Would trios count as stables/factions, or not? Taz group I think is fine but i'd take Cage out Inner Circle. I have said for a few months that the group itself just isn't clicking for me. PnP does not fit and Sammy is due for a step up Right now all the factions in AEW feels more like CHAOS than it does LIJ or Suzuki Gun. A collection of talent than talent for one purpose
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