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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jun 29, 2021 14:00:41 GMT -5
Wee Willie Wilkins deserves a mention. Here's Jim Cornette to tell the story. Caution: strong language. Being a job guy and attempting to do a comeback against the team who just beat you after the match isn't a good career move. Man, when Jim isn't being a bitter old man and just telling stories about the wrestling business IMO there's still no one better.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 29, 2021 14:30:19 GMT -5
Career Killed is the topic. If Hogan's career was killed he wouldn't be in the highest profile wrestling fed in the world. Was his career hurt...yes. But killed....nope. Hogan's career isn't dead per se but it's definitely on life support. if he's getting booed out of the building by fans in his home state no less, WWE are going to question why they should even bother with him anymore. And considering the type of company AEW is, I doubt they bring him in, either. After WM I would be shocked if we see Hogan again beyond a video game appearance. Since Fans have no interest in him. They boo him at every turn and fans are not paying to see him.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 29, 2021 14:56:26 GMT -5
Being back in the WWE doesn't mean he career was saved. When fans have openly shown distant to him and boo him everytime he thrown out there? The most popular wrestler in wrestling at one time who was still getting big pops before that came out, now gets booed. No longer draws like he once did. Yes he career was killed compared to what he was before. WWE may have forgiven him but fans and a lot of wrestlers haven't. Adding to the list. Shane Douglas: The guy kept burning every bridge because he felt everyone else is to blame for his short comings. Its Flair's fault, its the Kliq's fault, and ext. He felt he should been the biggest star in the world. To the point that no major wrestling company wants anything to do with him or believe he has value in any roles. While he worked in most every major company, his exit have always been left with a burning bridge and outside of ECW was no long run. Career Killed is the topic. If Hogan's career was killed he wouldn't be in the highest profile wrestling fed in the world. Was his career hurt...yes. But killed....nope. I think it depends on which career you're thinking about. The WWE will always dust him off for wrestling related things because he's a big name and he needs them. His career as a pop/nostalgia culture figure is probably dead though, he's never getting another reality TV show, his advertising opportunities are few and far between and so on and so forth. At this point in life he would have made more money from those deals than he does from the WWE, he'd be on his way to becoming another Hoff/Shatner like figure had he kept his mouth shut and not boned his friend's wife, now he's the racist former pro wrestler who sued Gawker and only makes the news when he says something horrible, like Covid being God's wrath.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 29, 2021 15:32:17 GMT -5
Career Killed is the topic. If Hogan's career was killed he wouldn't be in the highest profile wrestling fed in the world. Was his career hurt...yes. But killed....nope. I think it depends on which career you're thinking about. The WWE will always dust him off for wrestling related things because he's a big name and he needs them. His career as a pop/nostalgia culture figure is probably dead though, he's never getting another reality TV show, his advertising opportunities are few and far between and so on and so forth. At this point in life he would have made more money from those deals than he does from the WWE, he'd be on his way to becoming another Hoff/Shatner like figure had he kept his mouth shut and not boned his friend's wife, now he's the racist former pro wrestler who sued Gawker and only makes the news when he says something horrible, like Covid being God's wrath. ^^^This. Just because the "biggest company wrestling company in the world" Dust his ass off doesn't mean his career isn't dead. When they the company are the only ones who care if he there or not. Fans don't want him there. They don't watch or buy tickets to see him. After Mania he be lucky to get another call since every time he announced to be at an event, they get nothing but backlash and fans boo him because they know what he did. He draw power is dead. Nobody wants anything to do with him outside of Vince. He'll as bad with money and ext Flair is, at less he can get advertising deals. Hogan doesn't because no company wants to touch that can of worms. Same with anybody wanting him to give him a show of any kind or movie deal. Hogan dumbass ego and trying to play victim. Is why he in this spot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 15:57:10 GMT -5
Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. If anything, ROH has basically rewarded the Briscoes with a job for life. And somehow ROH doesn't seem to get much shit over it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 29, 2021 17:06:00 GMT -5
Joey Styles. after being released by WWE in 2016 (a very contentious election year) he tried to find new life in the indies, went to work for EVOLVE, and on their most important show in a long while (their first for a new ippv distributor) he not only violated the booker's edict about no political jokes, he violated it by directing towards the female ring announcer an extremely infamous sexual assault quote said by the then president elect. Styles wasn't just fired by EVOLVE for that, he got dropped by CHIKARA and Beyond, and walked away from wrestling as a result I had no idea about this. He really isn't good enough to call Backlash. I want to say Callis tried to play it off like it was the plan and said they would bring Aries back but it never happened. That was like a final straw for everyone. Doesn't help in recent years he's still an ass on social media as well He once liked a tweet of mine that was critical about him... I didn't even tag him in it, he must have found it vanity searching, which is kinda depressing. sit in the crowd at a TNA show while being a highlander? TNA did him dirty on this one, it was stupid to be in the crowd, yes, but he didn't choose to get a camera pointed at him. Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. Yeah I'd be really, really happy if Jay's career was killed by that noxious bullshit but it wasn't, and he hasn't learned.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 29, 2021 17:12:51 GMT -5
Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. It’s always been on the mark on Douglas though. He encouraged Foley not to go to WWE, but Foley realized who he was talking to and decided to try it anyway. Douglas didn’t have enough talent or drawing power to overcome his nuking bridges. Whereas, others have.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jun 29, 2021 17:26:49 GMT -5
Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. If anything, ROH has basically rewarded the Briscoes with a job for life. And somehow ROH doesn't seem to get much shit over it. That's, in big part, because ROH is outside everyone's radar until they make a big show or announcement, everyone remembers them for 5 minutes and then forgets all about it. And then there's the MSG show with New Japan where they screwed the pooch big time in front of the biggest audience they'll ever have, but that's another kind of killed career.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 29, 2021 17:53:04 GMT -5
Going on a racist rant on your secretly recorded sex tape with the wife of a radio DJ has got to be high in the running. That really didn't kill Hogan's career. He was back in WWE in what 3 years. Current WWE, which is like a career death
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 29, 2021 18:05:52 GMT -5
I'm amazed that everyone was convinced it was a work for months before it came out and nope, Austin Aries really threw a tantrum and tried to ruin their biggest ppv of the year. It was also the same show where Alberto came out and demanded why Borash didn't call him. Alberto/Borash was BFG 2017, Borash's last night was when Aries came in to Impact in early 2018 and beat Eli Drake for the world title, then Aries was meant to face Alberto at Redemption 2018 but Alberto got all coked up and no-showed the Wrestlecon Mania show beforehand. Penta was Alberto's replacement for Rebellion and beat Aries for the title before dropping it back on Impact, then Aries/Morrison took place BFG 2018. God, that post-GFW recovery period was a mess Jeez, yeah TNA prior to the rebranding was a mess.
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Post by Big BosskMan on Jun 29, 2021 18:42:43 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki?
From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam.
Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 29, 2021 19:15:31 GMT -5
Big Cass, the man who really, really wanted to beat up a midget. But enough about Joey Janela.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 29, 2021 19:22:22 GMT -5
Using social media to threaten to shoot any teacher who tells your kids that it's okay to be gay, right as you've finally gotten your foot in the door of the WWE after a decade of graft on the indies. Having a brother who says the above thing. I know Jay got a big ROH push, but that speaks to how their management sucks, he killed his chances anywhere else though. His bigotry was an open secret on the indies, much like AJ's, that rant removed all doubt. ROH did F- all about Go Be A Fan....no they don't know what they're doing.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jun 29, 2021 19:49:56 GMT -5
sit in the crowd at a TNA show while being a highlander? He did an interview afterward saying that he was very unhappy in WWE and that in retrospect it was his way to get fired, so dude had at least an inkling as to what he was doing. I'm callin horse-poop on that one since he did everything but pull his shirt up over his face to not be seen on camera lmao
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Post by fg on Jun 29, 2021 20:05:01 GMT -5
Does Evan Bourne count?
In 2011, he wins the tag titles with Kofi. He gets suspended for wellness for 30 days. Him and Kofi still get to keep the belts.
Shortly after coming back,he gets suspended again for wellness for 60 days, forcing him and Kofi to drop the titles at a house show. (I wonder how upset Kofi was at Evan for screwing up their push?)
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 29, 2021 20:13:47 GMT -5
Does Evan Bourne count? In 2011, he wins the tag titles with Kofi. He gets suspended for wellness for 30 days. Him and Kofi still get to keep the belts. Shortly after coming back,he gets suspended again for wellness for 60 days, forcing him and Kofi to drop the titles at a house show. (I wonder how upset Kofi was at Evan for screwing up their push?) If anything that wreck that mangled his foot should have killed his career but he's still good and still contributing after all these years. He looked like he could been f***ed after getting kicked out of NJPW but he found himself in Impact and had a good run and finding himself in AEW now
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 29, 2021 20:14:04 GMT -5
He did an interview afterward saying that he was very unhappy in WWE and that in retrospect it was his way to get fired, so dude had at least an inkling as to what he was doing. I'm callin horse-poop on that one since he did everything but pull his shirt up over his face to not be seen on camera lmao And it's not like the Highlanders were immediately fired either... they stuck around for like another year before a spring cleaning release. All they really did was take away the mania payday.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 29, 2021 20:16:11 GMT -5
Michael Elgin
Ever since that shit with him talking shit on Jeff Cobb name and peeing on a fan or whatever the f*** he did, his star kept dwindling and dwindling from looking like a big player in NJPW to having to leave there and ending up in Impact and getting forced out of there last year
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 29, 2021 22:42:20 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki? From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam. Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school. It may have died now. He was doing well in MLW than the pandemic hit, and he went on an anti mask/vaccine rant when people called him ignorant and ext. He no long on the MLW roster so yeah not sure if they are connected but just saying.
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Post by Rave on Jun 30, 2021 1:59:34 GMT -5
I'm callin horse-poop on that one since he did everything but pull his shirt up over his face to not be seen on camera lmao And it's not like the Highlanders were immediately fired either... they stuck around for like another year before a spring cleaning release. All they really did was take away the mania payday. The fact that he outright took responsibility afterward for the stupid decision he made prob'ly helped there. Even he was boggled as to why TNA did it, it's not like it did anything for them. It was a shit move on their part which needlessly pissed people off. Dude was still making the rounds up in the Canadian indies years later, so it didn't kill his career entirely.
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