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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 30, 2021 2:04:07 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki? From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam. Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school. It may have died now. He was doing well in MLW than the pandemic hit, and he went on an anti mask/vaccine rant when people called him ignorant and ext. He no long on the MLW roster so yeah not sure if they are connected but just saying. I knew Aries and PJ Black went anti-mask, didn't know Low-Ki did, too. What a dipshit.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 30, 2021 4:41:05 GMT -5
Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. While you don't need to be in the WWE to have a good career, it put a ceiling over their heads for career advancement that wasn't there before. That crap didn't just cost the a WWE run, it also made them a hard sell to AEW, Impact, most other big name indies and growing promotions, the places where much of the money is in wrestling. Where does Jay go after ROH?
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 30, 2021 5:08:51 GMT -5
Trying cover your real life sleaziness by having a sleazy ring persona that beats women up with his penis.
Trying to murder the single most powerful promoter on the planet within earshot of numerous other people.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 30, 2021 5:21:00 GMT -5
Alberto went from a racist-punching folk hero to a drug abusing domestic abuser who not only no-showed everything, but would either make up fake knife attacks or be caught on someone else's vlog at Wrestlecon hanging around during the show he was supposed to be on. The man came out at Bound for Glory so coked up he could have taken over as the new frontman for Buckcherry and is so toxic that he's made Ronnie Radke seem like a worthwhile person to spend your life with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 6:17:02 GMT -5
I remember a wrestling magazine from the early 2000s with a top ten or twenty list about this and the #1 way was simply "be Buff Bagwell".
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jun 30, 2021 7:17:53 GMT -5
Go on national television, say "Red turns to green," and show how blading is done, then soend the rest of your life bitching about being blackballed.
Oh who am I kidding? Eddie Mansfield's career was dead before that anyway.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 30, 2021 7:29:02 GMT -5
This thread is an interesting study in how there is rarely one moment you can point to as "this is where they never worked again", since if you're even remotely decent, someone will book you, or if you know the right people. Still, people obviously can ruin opportunities or squander momentum by being stubborn or hasty jackasses.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jun 30, 2021 8:05:18 GMT -5
Look at JBL the wrong way, right Palmer Cannon and Billy Silverman.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 30, 2021 8:07:51 GMT -5
Go on national television, say "Red turns to green," and show how blading is done, then soend the rest of your life bitching about being blackballed. Oh who am I kidding? Eddie Mansfield's career was dead before that anyway. He also said "Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, but nobody has freed the wrestlers".
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 30, 2021 8:13:09 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki? From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam. Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school. This part of his stupid decisions is my favorite, from Wikipedia.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 8:19:11 GMT -5
As of this moment, "be associated through no fault of your own with a notorious alt-right provocateur who gets your team taken off of TV through an ill-advised tweet, but you get fired and he doesn't" has to be up there.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 30, 2021 8:22:20 GMT -5
As of this moment, "be associated through no fault of your own with a notorious alt-right provocateur who gets your team taken off of TV through an ill-advised tweet, but you get fired and he doesn't" has to be up there. *Leather strapping intensifies*
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Post by fortknox on Jun 30, 2021 8:24:33 GMT -5
Look at JBL the wrong way, right Palmer Cannon and Billy Silverman. In Silverman's case he dared to upgrade to 1st class out of his own pocket. Because, only main eventers fly 1st class.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 30, 2021 8:43:01 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki? From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam. Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school. This part of his stupid decisions is my favorite, from Wikipedia. Huh... I always heard the suit thing was Low Ki cosplaying for the new Hitman game and that New Japan told him not to wrestle in the suit but he did anyway. The fact that when he went to TNA during the Global Force merger and wrestled in a suit there as well I'm gonna say the suit was not part of a protest
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 30, 2021 9:11:01 GMT -5
Wee Willie Wilkins deserves a mention. Here's Jim Cornette to tell the story. Caution: strong language. Being a job guy and attempting to do a comeback against the team who just beat you after the match isn't a good career move. CC highlights: "Boo Boo" "Lipid Xpress"
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Post by petef3 on Jun 30, 2021 10:44:13 GMT -5
Wilkins had a long run wrestling for Michinoku Pro and PWFG after that, and also did WWF TV jobs. Didn't kill his career at all.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 30, 2021 11:23:38 GMT -5
Shane Douglas seems like a rather standard way of killing your career than a particularly stupid one. I don't get how the Briscoes thing, unctuous as it was, "killed their career." You don't need to be in WWE to have a career in wrestling. While you don't need to be in the WWE to have a good career, it put a ceiling over their heads for career advancement that wasn't there before. That crap didn't just cost the a WWE run, it also made them a hard sell to AEW, Impact, most other big name indies and growing promotions, the places where much of the money is in wrestling. Where does Jay go after ROH? This sums up a lot about the Briscoes situation. For why ROH doesn't get more crap for keeping the Briscoes around, there's also the fact that ROH is owned by Sinclair. In relation to the Briscoes' brand of terrible, I think a lot of fans perceive Sinclair to be beyond shaming, so he might as well stay there and make a living.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 30, 2021 11:30:31 GMT -5
4 pages and no mention of Low-Ki? From all accounts I've heard, a colossal pain in the ass, difficult, and last I saw was trying his hand as a motivational speaker - which is a close second to Jarrett's gold scam. Now, technically Ki's career wasn't exactly killed, but it had more stops and starts than my buddy's Plymouth Reliant in high school. It may have died now. He was doing well in MLW than the pandemic hit, and he went on an anti mask/vaccine rant when people called him ignorant and ext. He no long on the MLW roster so yeah not sure if they are connected but just saying. I can't believe the same dude that intentionally got himself fired from New Japan with the Hitman outfit stunt because he didn't wanna work in Fukushima managed to turn around and be a Covidiot
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 30, 2021 11:43:15 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one mentioned Buff and the top hat, unless I missed it. No matter what he did, top hat or not he wouldn't have lasted in WWF and I don't think he ever worked for a major promotion again unless briefly in TNA. I like Buff a lot, I am a fan and I think it sucks what happened to him in WWF.
I also don't believe, though I am a big fan of him also, what JR says about Buff's mother calling in. I think JR simply saw Marcus like a lot of other WWF stars would-as a guy who got way too much way too soon in WCW, didn't "pay the dues" and with that someone was going to try and destroy him in WWF. JR happened to be one of those guys. Marcus/Buff wasn't a zero work rate hoss like JR loved and he wasn't an All American in some sport like JR loved, he was simply a guy who had been hired as a rookie who didn't work his way through the territories but always had a nice spot on the card for almost 10 years in WCW and probably was making even more than even the bigger stars in WWF. So the minute he walks into WWF, top hat or no top hat, mother calling or no mother calling there is a target on his back.
But with that being said, his career outside indies and autograph signings and cameos is pretty much non existent.
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Post by Muskrat on Jun 30, 2021 17:43:26 GMT -5
Wee Willie Wilkins deserves a mention. Here's Jim Cornette to tell the story. Caution: strong language. Being a job guy and attempting to do a comeback against the team who just beat you after the match isn't a good career move. Man, when Jim isn't being a bitter old man and just telling stories about the wrestling business IMO there's still no one better. I’ve said it many times, if he agreed to not mention anything after 1997 I would spend a small fortune to spend the weekend drinking beer and listening to his stories. Brilliant mind for old school wrestling, brilliant historian, completely out of touch with current business.
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