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Post by eJm on Aug 12, 2021 16:21:45 GMT -5
He spoke with Chris Van Vliet and he has more dumb things to say. This time about Twitch!
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 12, 2021 16:30:32 GMT -5
He spoke with Chris Van Vliet and he has more dumb things to say. This time about Twitch! I don't see what's so dumb about this. Breeze streamed under a different name and never used his WWE name when streaming. Then there was a big influx of streaming during the pandemic and everyone was using their WWE names, which they aren't supposed to do, some of which were basically streaming nothing but asking people to subscribe and give money (you know the ones I'm referring to). Vince wasn't gonna allow people to basically panhandle using their intellectual property, and unfortunately the bigger ripple effect was no streaming period. I also think though that this went beyond Twitch and onto Instagram ads as well with some people getting sponsorships on their WWE accounts for brands that WWE would never associate with.
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Post by eJm on Aug 12, 2021 16:33:21 GMT -5
He spoke with Chris Van Vliet and he has more dumb things to say. This time about Twitch! I don't see what's so dumb about this. Breeze streamed under a different name and never used his WWE name when streaming. Then there was a big influx of streaming during the pandemic and everyone was using their WWE names, which they aren't supposed to do, some of which were basically streaming nothing but asking people to subscribe and give money (you know the ones I'm referring to). Vince wasn't gonna allow people to basically panhandle using their intellectual property, and unfortunately the bigger ripple effect was no streaming period. I also think though that this went beyond Twitch and onto Instagram ads as well with some people getting sponsorships on their WWE accounts for brands that WWE would never associate with. I mean, to not go into a long-winded issue, if they had an issue with streaming and things like that, tell them not to do it with their real name and make them employees because having it happen to independent contractors is super damn shady regardless of logic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 16:55:33 GMT -5
Breeze's whole connection to UUDD is pretty weird. Judging by what he's said in interviews lately he's taking a break from wrestling and judging the UUDD videos lately Breeze is still there.
So I guess he can still appear on the channel weekly while not being an employee? I don't know how that works.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 12, 2021 16:58:26 GMT -5
It is a bad take because it clearly wasnt about people doing bad things on twitch.
And even then,TWITCH has a code of conduct for it.
It was clearly about wrestler getting money without going through WWE
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 12, 2021 17:08:20 GMT -5
I KINDA get what he's getting at there but I think he misses the fact that he got looked over because of UUDD and stuff like that. There are more factors that came into WWE's decision than just people playing on Twitch or whatever with or without their WWE name. Namely WWE is a greedy greedy company.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Aug 12, 2021 17:10:36 GMT -5
I thought the latest dumb thing was about why he doesn’t plan on going to AEW and the answer wasn’t “Because they hadn’t and likely won’t ask”
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Post by Legion on Aug 12, 2021 17:12:12 GMT -5
Breeze's whole connection to UUDD is pretty weird. Judging by what he's said in interviews lately he's taking a break from wrestling and judging the UUDD videos lately Breeze is still there. So I guess he can still appear on the channel weekly while not being an employee? I don't know how that works. The last episode of Battle of the Brands seems to suggest they are trying to work something out so he can stay on the channel. Whether than means he gets a Jessamyn Duke deal or whether that means some other way of him coming back (maybe Cole has said something to Vince in that 'please stay with us meeting' they had), who knows. But it's likely some of the stuff he's said in this interview has an eye on the potential they might bring him back in some way, so he isn't going to risk pissing them off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 17:17:16 GMT -5
Breeze's whole connection to UUDD is pretty weird. Judging by what he's said in interviews lately he's taking a break from wrestling and judging the UUDD videos lately Breeze is still there. So I guess he can still appear on the channel weekly while not being an employee? I don't know how that works. The last episode of Battle of the Brands seems to suggest they are trying to work something out so he can stay on the channel. Whether than means he gets a Jessamyn Duke deal or whether that means some other way of him coming back (maybe Cole has said something to Vince in that 'please stay with us meeting' they had), who knows. But it's likely some of the stuff he's said in this interview has an eye on the potential they might bring him back in some way, so he isn't going to risk pissing them off. Given he's made enough money form the company (and his other ventures) he can pretty much live his life without even having to wrestle again so yeah I agree. Maybe they said he can appear as long as he doesn't wrestle elsewhere, we'll never know. Shoutout to him for whatever deal he has given he's still with his boys. I saw that video today where Adam Cole found out live that Breeze was released, he looked hurt and pissed. I'm sure they're all glad he's at least on a few videos still with them.
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Post by thehottag on Aug 12, 2021 17:50:50 GMT -5
Y'see Tyler, you almost had me with the IP argument over Twitch, you really did. Except, y'know, the part where WWE made plans to force wrestlers to use Twitch & then take that money out of their downside guarantee. That sounds a bit less like a company protecting it's brand, & a bit more like someone trying to muscle in on a piece of the pie.
Also, say it with me: "In-de-pen-dent con-trac-tor". Telling someone to not use their WWE name would've been fine, but to tell someone what they can & cannot do outside of business hours under their own name? Yeah, they seriously overstepped the mark here.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Aug 14, 2021 9:34:58 GMT -5
he sounds like a dork
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 15, 2021 8:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 15, 2021 8:21:11 GMT -5
Y'see Tyler, you almost had me with the IP argument over Twitch, you really did. Except, y'know, the part where WWE made plans to force wrestlers to use Twitch & then take that money out of their downside guarantee. That sounds a bit less like a company protecting it's brand, & a bit more like someone trying to muscle in on a piece of the pie. Also, say it with me: "In-de-pen-dent con-trac-tor". Telling someone to not use their WWE name would've been fine, but to tell someone what they can & cannot do outside of business hours under their own name? Yeah, they seriously overstepped the mark here. He does talk like someone who is just looking at the paycheck. Which is fine but does come off as rather ignorant to other people. I think he does somewhere in there have some thoughts that could be valid but are not articulated well
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Aug 15, 2021 14:43:49 GMT -5
I recently came across another part of his interview where he was talking about Dolph Ziggler giving him advice when they were working a program and basically telling him something to the effect of that if they don't want to push you they never will no matter what you do so just be contempt and try to make guys they want to be stars happy by putting them over because that's as good as it's going to get for you. I mean he's kind of right but at the same time it was super depressing.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 15, 2021 14:45:24 GMT -5
(Furry) boot-licker
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Post by eJm on Aug 15, 2021 14:52:23 GMT -5
I recently came across another part of his interview where he was talking about Dolph Ziggler giving him advice when they were working a program and basically telling him something to the effect of that if they don't want to push you they never will no matter what you do so just be contempt and try to make guys they want to be stars happy by putting them over because that's as good as it's going to get for you. I mean he's kind of right but at the same time it was super depressing. That sounds like a healthy and productive work environment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2021 14:53:13 GMT -5
I recently came across another part of his interview where he was talking about Dolph Ziggler giving him advice when they were working a program and basically telling him something to the effect of that if they don't want to push you they never will no matter what you do so just be contempt and try to make guys they want to be stars happy by putting them over because that's as good as it's going to get for you. I mean he's kind of right but at the same time it was super depressing. That's really quite sad. And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who just have a job for the pay and that's fine. But this is supposedly a creative job. Just accepting you're a no one in that environment? I feel bad for him. But hey, he's happy and got paid so maybe he's got the right idea.
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Post by eJm on Aug 15, 2021 15:20:19 GMT -5
I recently came across another part of his interview where he was talking about Dolph Ziggler giving him advice when they were working a program and basically telling him something to the effect of that if they don't want to push you they never will no matter what you do so just be contempt and try to make guys they want to be stars happy by putting them over because that's as good as it's going to get for you. I mean he's kind of right but at the same time it was super depressing. That's really quite sad. And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who just have a job for the pay and that's fine. But this is supposedly a creative job. Just accepting you're a no one in that environment? I feel bad for him. But hey, he's happy and got paid so maybe he's got the right idea. It's more for me about being told that and then turning around and basically saying "Well, people would be grateful for the chance to be paid to eat at catering" like it's something you sign up to do when your job involves you doing something for a living. Like, my situation doesn't compare but I bring it up because I'm sure it's relatable; being basically paid to do nothing whilst only starting a job for 6 months was one of the worst experiences in my life and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. You constantly feel useless and wonder whether you should just give up because you're not being productive and they'll see you as expendable. I'm lucky enough to be in a job where the only way to leave is to quit and it was more them not having something for me to do rather than anything I did but imagine working your whole life towards a goal to perform on the highest stage and just...not doing that. As we've seen the last few months of firings and shoot interviews, that has for a lot of people. Just trying to do something to try and feel like you have a use or can be helpful and not be seen as useless. And if people are happy with that? Great. You do you. But I never want to go through that again and I can imagine many people now (hopefully temporarily) unemployed don't want to either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2021 15:23:32 GMT -5
That's really quite sad. And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who just have a job for the pay and that's fine. But this is supposedly a creative job. Just accepting you're a no one in that environment? I feel bad for him. But hey, he's happy and got paid so maybe he's got the right idea. It's more for me about being told that and then turning around and basically saying "Well, people would be grateful for the chance to be paid to eat at catering" like it's something you sign up to do when your job involves you doing something for a living. Like, my situation doesn't compare but I bring it up because I'm sure it's relatable; being basically paid to do nothing whilst only starting a job for 6 months was one of the worst experiences in my life and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. You constantly feel useless and wonder whether you should just give up because you're not being productive and they'll see you as expendable. I'm lucky enough to be in a job where the only way to leave is to quit and it was more them not having something for me to do rather than anything I did but imagine working your whole life towards a goal to perform on the highest stage and just...not doing that. As we've seen the last few months of firings and shoot interviews, that has for a lot of people. Just trying to do something to try and feel like you have a use or can be helpful and not be seen as useless. And if people are happy with that? Great. You do you. But I never want to go through that again and I can imagine many people now (hopefully temporarily) unemployed don't want to either. Oh yeah, I agree 100%. If he's happy just eating in catering, thats fine. Sad, but fine. But judging others for not being happy with that? That's just pathetic.
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Post by Legion on Aug 15, 2021 15:36:38 GMT -5
But that was his point.
If you sit there and get bitter, knowing shit isn't changing, but still taking their money, why bother?
Go work somewhere that might push you if you genuinely believe in yourself and believe you are worth more.
If you can't be content sat in catering and taking the money, dont put yourself through the bitterness and dont re-sign/ask for your release for your own sanity. It isnt about judging, it's about saying what he did and what got him through it, and he thinks everyone would be better taking the same approach.
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