Breeze: If you don't like your job, quit.

[eJm]

Ignore the person who posted it because, well, he's a bit of a fool but all of this...it's a lot

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Nice to know that all my anger about a guy not being pushed to at least IC/US level was almost entirely misplaced on someone literally “just being happy to be there”.

[Deleted]

Fix my computer, Tyler.

[Chiral]

WWE's having a really good couple of weeks from top to bottom huh.

[Deleted]

Well, yes and no.

These wrestlers should know what they've signed up for. They have friends in these companies, they see what goes on backstage, they get information that we do and still read the reports that we do, they get the information. They get all that. However that doesn't mean that said information can't change once you're signed as wrestlers have told us (CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, Malakai and etc). They've all been told numerous things that didn't happen and that's just not right for a job. If your boss tells you to show up at a meeting at this time and you get there and then they say "nah sorry, no meeting today" then ok it's ok once but if that happens so many times then eventually you gotta realize that's not how a job's supposed to be. Being signed also doesn't mean that nowhere are you supposed to "not be used and if you are then you're lucky" because frankly speaking, that's not only a bad waste of resources but that's also not accounting for everything you've done from training to learning to practicing and such. It's like a sports team, with all of the sports connections WWE tried to connect to them you know sports teams sign people to use them in the future, otherwise they wouldn't waste money on signing people, that's how it is. We've also seen that stating frustrations can help your case (Becky Lynch, Daniel Bryan, Naomi, Kofi Kingston and etc). It's 2021 and these things are effective in all wrestling companies. Now, I do agree with the "quit your job" comment tho because there's better companies out there that'll use talent better. Yeah, quit your job but make sure you do everything prior to quitting so you can't say "well I didn't try that." It's also the same as me telling people to "stop watching", shit, stop watching if you hate it. I see a lot complain and if you complain and still watch at that point I can't take your complaints seriously but that's just me.

At the end of the day, I think this is sadly a case where Breeze was used so much that the brass talked him into believing this when the reality is he's wrong. He was with the company for over a decade and that's really all he knows.

He's been indoctrinated by the WWE system.

[Mid-Carder]

Did he quit?

[eJm]

Aug 3, 2021 16:13:07 GMT -5 @kn said:

Well, yes and no.

These wrestlers should know what they've signed up for. They have friends in these companies, they read the reports, they get the information. However that doesn't mean that said information can't change once you've signed as wrestlers have told us (CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, Malakai and etc) and that also doesn't mean that nowhere are you supposed to "not be used" because frankly speaking, that's not only a bad waste of resources but that's also not accounting for everything you've done from training to learning to practicing and such. It's like a sports team, with all of the sports connections WWE tried to connect to them you know they sign people to use them in the future, that's how it is. We've also seen that stating frustrations can help your case (Becky Lynch, Daniel Bryan, Naomi, Kofi Kingston and etc). I do agree with the "quit your job" comment tho because there's better companies out there that'll use talent better. Yeah, quit your job but make sure you do everything prior to quitting so you can't say "well I didn't try that." It's also the same as me telling people to "stop watching", shit, stop watching if you hate it.

At the end of the day, I think this is sadly a case where Breeze was used so much that the brass talked him into believing this when the reality is he's wrong. He was with the company for over a decade and that's really all he knows.

He's been indoctrinated by the WWE system.

I think the problem with the "Quit your job" logic for me is that they do everything they can to keep you there. And sure, contracts and all that, but it doesn't seem like they care very much to keeping to them the moment they need to release people. And like you said, if a talent is unhappy and you're not doing much with them, just let them leave. You can use the income on other people who are sticking around and you have less of a headache, in their minds, about being creative.

Like, there's enough people who've tried to leave where that isn't as easy as just asking to leave, you know.

[Dave the Dave]

He was very close to Brodie, who was very upset about how he was used and expressed it online. He was trying to quit, but still, interesting their views there seemed to differ.

I always hate this take. There a lot of reasons you can’t just quit your job sometimes. Isn’t a he a single guy with no kids? It’s a little different if you’re married with 5 kids. You can’t just quit

[Mr Mario Mario]

Ah the old love it or leave it excuse

Why bother letting anyone know that you’re not happy just to take up a space and want an opportunity to show what you can do and try to make both yourself and the company money?

Nah, just bend over and take it up the tailpipe

Man forget now, then, forever that’s your new slogan right there ha

[A Platypus Rave]

Aug 3, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5 eJm said:

Aug 3, 2021 16:13:07 GMT -5 @kn said:

Well, yes and no.

These wrestlers should know what they've signed up for. They have friends in these companies, they read the reports, they get the information. However that doesn't mean that said information can't change once you've signed as wrestlers have told us (CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, Malakai and etc) and that also doesn't mean that nowhere are you supposed to "not be used" because frankly speaking, that's not only a bad waste of resources but that's also not accounting for everything you've done from training to learning to practicing and such. It's like a sports team, with all of the sports connections WWE tried to connect to them you know they sign people to use them in the future, that's how it is. We've also seen that stating frustrations can help your case (Becky Lynch, Daniel Bryan, Naomi, Kofi Kingston and etc). I do agree with the "quit your job" comment tho because there's better companies out there that'll use talent better. Yeah, quit your job but make sure you do everything prior to quitting so you can't say "well I didn't try that." It's also the same as me telling people to "stop watching", shit, stop watching if you hate it.

At the end of the day, I think this is sadly a case where Breeze was used so much that the brass talked him into believing this when the reality is he's wrong. He was with the company for over a decade and that's really all he knows.

He's been indoctrinated by the WWE system.

I think the problem with the "Quit your job" logic for me is that they do everything they can to keep you there. And sure, contracts and all that, but it doesn't seem like they care very much to keeping to them the moment they need to release people. And like you said, if a talent is unhappy and you're not doing much with them, just let them leave. You can use the income on other people who are sticking around and you have less of a headache, in their minds, about being creative.

Like, there's enough people who've tried to leave where that isn't as easy as just asking to leave, you know.

I mean Brodie tried to leave for what... 2 years?

[Mecca]

Takes like this suck, that's like telling a regular dude this, if you don't like it quit, yea dude let me and my family be homeless, sounds like a great idea.

[eJm]

Aug 3, 2021 16:20:48 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Aug 3, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5 eJm said:

I think the problem with the "Quit your job" logic for me is that they do everything they can to keep you there. And sure, contracts and all that, but it doesn't seem like they care very much to keeping to them the moment they need to release people. And like you said, if a talent is unhappy and you're not doing much with them, just let them leave. You can use the income on other people who are sticking around and you have less of a headache, in their minds, about being creative.

Like, there's enough people who've tried to leave where that isn't as easy as just asking to leave, you know.

I mean Brodie tried to leave for what... 2 years?

Got to the point he had to be vocal about it publicly and it didn't work.

The only reason he got cut at all was the start of the "budget cuts".

[Deleted]

Aug 3, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5 eJm said:

Aug 3, 2021 16:13:07 GMT -5 @kn said:

Well, yes and no.

These wrestlers should know what they've signed up for. They have friends in these companies, they read the reports, they get the information. However that doesn't mean that said information can't change once you've signed as wrestlers have told us (CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, Malakai and etc) and that also doesn't mean that nowhere are you supposed to "not be used" because frankly speaking, that's not only a bad waste of resources but that's also not accounting for everything you've done from training to learning to practicing and such. It's like a sports team, with all of the sports connections WWE tried to connect to them you know they sign people to use them in the future, that's how it is. We've also seen that stating frustrations can help your case (Becky Lynch, Daniel Bryan, Naomi, Kofi Kingston and etc). I do agree with the "quit your job" comment tho because there's better companies out there that'll use talent better. Yeah, quit your job but make sure you do everything prior to quitting so you can't say "well I didn't try that." It's also the same as me telling people to "stop watching", shit, stop watching if you hate it.

At the end of the day, I think this is sadly a case where Breeze was used so much that the brass talked him into believing this when the reality is he's wrong. He was with the company for over a decade and that's really all he knows.

He's been indoctrinated by the WWE system.

I think the problem with the "Quit your job" logic for me is that they do everything they can to keep you there. And sure, contracts and all that, but it doesn't seem like they care very much to keeping to them the moment they need to release people. And like you said, if a talent is unhappy and you're not doing much with them, just let them leave. You can use the income on other people who are sticking around and you have less of a headache, in their minds, about being creative.

Like, there's enough people who've tried to leave where that isn't as easy as just asking to leave, you know.

I wonder what would happen if a wrestler just stops showing up. Has there ever been a case where someone doesn't show up and they sent their lawyer after him or is it a situation where it doesn't reach that point? How much trouble would a wrestler ever do if it came to that?

It's just like they love wasting money and resources. For a company who's been hit some all around you'd figure eventually they'd realize they need to save money but alas, they haven't.

[Bo Rida]

Sure quit your contract early and let wwe's lawyers stop you from wrestling for the next few years. Maybe get sued for breach of contract too.

Of course it doesn't work the other way, WWE can end the contract.

Independent contractors.

[eJm]

Aug 3, 2021 16:23:40 GMT -5 @kn said:

Aug 3, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5 eJm said:

I think the problem with the "Quit your job" logic for me is that they do everything they can to keep you there. And sure, contracts and all that, but it doesn't seem like they care very much to keeping to them the moment they need to release people. And like you said, if a talent is unhappy and you're not doing much with them, just let them leave. You can use the income on other people who are sticking around and you have less of a headache, in their minds, about being creative.

Like, there's enough people who've tried to leave where that isn't as easy as just asking to leave, you know.

I wonder what would happen if a wrestler just stops showing up. Has there ever been a case where someone doesn't show up and they sent their lawyer after him or is it a situation where it doesn't reach that point? How much trouble would a wrestler ever do if it came to that?

It's just like they love wasting money and resources. For a company who's been hit some all around you'd figure eventually they'd realize they need to save money but alas, they haven't.

PAC did just that from what I remember and the only reason they couldn't do anything legally because he actually used the dates he got allocated so just...didn't come back.

[salz4life]

Aug 3, 2021 16:18:31 GMT -5 Dave the Dave said:

He was very close to Brodie, who was very upset about how he was used and expressed it online. He was trying to quit, but still, interesting their views there seemed to differ.

I always hate this take. There a lot of reasons you can’t just quit your job sometimes. Isn’t a he a single guy with no kids? It’s a little different if you’re married with 5 kids. You can’t just quit

Yeah.... he can have his opinion, but the "just quit" argument is never as easy as the person saying it believes it is.

[bog]

Just give up

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Aug 3, 2021 16:22:12 GMT -5 eJm said:

Aug 3, 2021 16:20:48 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

I mean Brodie tried to leave for what... 2 years?

Got to the point he had to be vocal about it publicly and it didn't work.

The only reason he got cut at all was the start of the "budget cuts".

Really weird take from someone who was so close to Brodie and knew his situation. Like WWE locks people into contracts to the point they CAN'T quit. Brodie was basically locked away on a shelf for two years and he was beyond frustrated and very vocal about it.

So for Tyler to simplify it down to "I mean if you hate it? Just quit!" seems a touch tone deaf because it's not that simple for everyone... including people within his own company.

[thehottag]

- "Hey, you're wasting my talents & the best years of my career"
- "Well if you don't like it, quit!"
- "Okay, I quit"
- "Nope you're under contract! And we're also going to add that time you were off injured onto it too!"

Yeah, it's not that easy, Tyler.

[Dub H]

I do agree that if you choose WWE,you should know they are a shit tier company that treats you like crap.