Post by sungod2020 on Dec 1, 2021 21:43:43 GMT -5
What are moments in pro wrestling(especially WWF/E) that came off as unnatural and unorganic?
The most obvious one would be the constant pushing of Roman Reigns as their top guy. As we know, forced pushes are nothing new in wrestling, but that has gone on for 5 to 6 years, which was just as long as "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's WWF run, including his *organic* rise to the top and his career winding down before quitting the company.
Hell, if you take away his 11 month hiatus due to injury(November 1999 to October 2000), and his 9 month sabbatical(June 2002 to March 2003), more time was still dedicated to Reigns forced push. It was only after year number 6, that the company decided to turn him heel which from what I hear on these forums(I haven't watched regularly since mid-2010s) is doing him wonders.
John Cena's slightly less forced push in the mid 2000s to early 2010s predated that. At least his rise through the main event ranks was organic and fans even put him there. They didn't turn on him until months after he won the WWE championship.
For earlier examples of forced moments: Shawn Michaels being paired with his trainer Jose Lothario to give a Rocky-Mickie relationship and to humanize him despite not at all being that type of babyface. Fans didn't fully turn on him though since they didn't have time with his fake injuries and walkouts before turning heel and becoming a Degenerate.
Another one was in the early 90s by using The Gulf War as an angle and giving Wrestlemania VII a patriotic theme. Sgt. Slaughter, while effective in his role as an American Turncoat/Iraqi Sympathizer had no business in the main event.
The last one would be career jobber(oh i'm sorry journeyman) Jinder Mahal all of a sudden becoming WWE champion to break into the Indian market despite him
a)actually being from Canada,
b)a heel that uses goons to cheat,
c)India not having any tradition with pro wrestling, and
d)not even being a typical Indian ancestry. He was a Punjabi Sikh, which only makes up not even 2% of the 1.2 billion population which is predominately Hindu. That's like if you wanted to promote a guy to be an All-American and you settled on a Hasidic Jew from Brooklyn or an Old Order Mennonite.
Any forced moments you can think of?
The most obvious one would be the constant pushing of Roman Reigns as their top guy. As we know, forced pushes are nothing new in wrestling, but that has gone on for 5 to 6 years, which was just as long as "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's WWF run, including his *organic* rise to the top and his career winding down before quitting the company.
Hell, if you take away his 11 month hiatus due to injury(November 1999 to October 2000), and his 9 month sabbatical(June 2002 to March 2003), more time was still dedicated to Reigns forced push. It was only after year number 6, that the company decided to turn him heel which from what I hear on these forums(I haven't watched regularly since mid-2010s) is doing him wonders.
John Cena's slightly less forced push in the mid 2000s to early 2010s predated that. At least his rise through the main event ranks was organic and fans even put him there. They didn't turn on him until months after he won the WWE championship.
For earlier examples of forced moments: Shawn Michaels being paired with his trainer Jose Lothario to give a Rocky-Mickie relationship and to humanize him despite not at all being that type of babyface. Fans didn't fully turn on him though since they didn't have time with his fake injuries and walkouts before turning heel and becoming a Degenerate.
Another one was in the early 90s by using The Gulf War as an angle and giving Wrestlemania VII a patriotic theme. Sgt. Slaughter, while effective in his role as an American Turncoat/Iraqi Sympathizer had no business in the main event.
The last one would be career jobber(oh i'm sorry journeyman) Jinder Mahal all of a sudden becoming WWE champion to break into the Indian market despite him
a)actually being from Canada,
b)a heel that uses goons to cheat,
c)India not having any tradition with pro wrestling, and
d)not even being a typical Indian ancestry. He was a Punjabi Sikh, which only makes up not even 2% of the 1.2 billion population which is predominately Hindu. That's like if you wanted to promote a guy to be an All-American and you settled on a Hasidic Jew from Brooklyn or an Old Order Mennonite.
Any forced moments you can think of?