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Post by asuka007 on Feb 3, 2022 21:35:08 GMT -5
PVZ could maybe be a star I think, maybe.
IDK that working with Brandi is how to do it though. I don’t get why TK thought that THAT segment was a good idea? And it went on too long as well.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 3, 2022 21:41:34 GMT -5
PVZ could maybe be a star I think, maybe. IDK that working with Brandi is how to do it though. I don’t get why TK thought that THAT segment was a good idea? And it went on too long as well. "Job to the latest Nightmare Factory graduate" just seems to be Brandi's role, and they'll get there even if the build is tortured.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 3, 2022 22:35:10 GMT -5
Thing is, the ONLY way this makes sense is if Paige kills her in like a minute.
Also I just don’t find the matchup interesting.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 3, 2022 22:39:05 GMT -5
Thing is, the ONLY way this makes sense is if Paige kills her in like a minute. Also I just don’t find the matchup interesting. There is the factor of "Wrestling is a different sport" for if the match goes a bit longer than expected, PVZ may be experienced in MMA, but not even Rousey's first WWE match ended in seconds, the style and the cardio are something to grow into, and Brandi does in fact have the experience edge, but PVZ has raw talent and power
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 3, 2022 23:15:19 GMT -5
Rousey was facing better competition than Brandi though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 3, 2022 23:28:18 GMT -5
Rousey was facing better competition than Brandi though. Her first match was against Stephanie McMahon. I'm going off of first matches. Rousey obviously went on to face the likes of Sasha Banks, PVZ has a good talent pool she'd face in AEW as well if she commit. Brandi can hold her own in ring, but ultimately, I dont think she beats VanZant or comes close. Is it out of the question for her to get a move in though? Not really
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Feb 3, 2022 23:31:57 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense the company giving people great matches isn't pulling in numbers.
FML
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 3, 2022 23:57:16 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense the company giving people great matches isn't pulling in numbers. FML They were literally pulling in great numbers for the last like three weeks. It's only when they slightly tilt below a million average that everyone wants to get anxious and think bad things are coming. This shit happens a lot. A month ago, people would have looked at this and considered it a rousing success, it's how quick the perception of ratings can change, it's somewhat tedious and eye-rolling frankly, AEW will not be made or broken by one week of ratings at this stage, especially when again, they were projected to get like a quarter of THIS average when they began.
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Post by rogermortus on Feb 4, 2022 0:02:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Dynamite will be happy to see South Park not air in their timeslot again after this week, because that absolutely played a part, that drew a .44 in the key demo, it definitely played a part. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like Kendrick being taken off the show and how the card got restructured also hurt a bit. There's no reason to really panic given next week has a world title match on it and a pretty damn big one. Down weeks happen. Seeing the breakdown will be interesting. I don’t think Kendrick being pulled did anything to the numbers honestly My sling tv is a Nelson ratings account and I skipped dynamite for this reason and watched South Park instead.
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Post by eJm on Feb 4, 2022 1:21:23 GMT -5
So I’ve been asking this for a while now but…where did people get this impression they must be getting a million weekly or else they’re a failure?
Like, under the terms of the present TV deal, as far as any of us know, the network only expected to be getting about 300-400k when it started and that was from the mouth of the head of programming at TNT. So besides it being a runaway success and TNT/TBS going out of its way to lavish praise on it when it gets the chance, it feels like this weird drumming of controversy to look at a rating triple the minimum and saying “OH MAN, THE DOWNFALL IS COMING!” and such. Not saying everyone has but I see it way too many times and have to ask.
They’re supposed to get a new one sorted next year so that’ll likely put broader expectations since the networks can see what they’ll do now but right now? I’m not getting some of the panic.
EDIT: Also, you know, South Park etc
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Post by Cyno on Feb 4, 2022 1:25:43 GMT -5
1 million in viewership seems to be some arbitrary figure people have used as a hard pass/fail line even though overall viewership really doesn't matter that much in the business of television ratings.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2022 3:34:39 GMT -5
So I’ve been asking this for a while now but…where did people get this impression they must be getting a million weekly or else they’re a failure? Like, under the terms of the present TV deal, as far as any of us know, the network only expected to be getting about 300-400k when it started and that was from the mouth of the head of programming at TNT. So besides it being a runaway success and TNT/TBS going out of its way to lavish praise on it when it gets the chance, it feels like this weird drumming of controversy to look at a rating triple the minimum and saying “OH MAN, THE DOWNFALL IS COMING!” and such. Not saying everyone has but I see it way too many times and have to ask. They’re supposed to get a new one sorted next year so that’ll likely put broader expectations since the networks can see what they’ll do now but right now? I’m not getting some of the panic. EDIT: Also, you know, South Park etc It's nonsensical to doomsay or troll at this point tbh. AEW already got extra money to move to TBS, they currently have three AEW shows on their stations, and they have a ton of brand synergy and support, because TNT and TBS know what they have is a winner. A constant top 5 cable force more often than not in the top 3 or even number one, beating out NBA games, Hockey Games, and mainstay programs. Rampage a safe top 10 or higher depending on the cards it gets in what many consider a death slot, well overachieving. Tony Khan and AEW are going to get PAID next year, and less average viewership at this point on some odd weeks isn't going to do much of anything, because they know how consistent AEW is and has been, no matter what's been thrown at them. They have one of the most consistent viewer bases on cable right now, sometimes higher, sometimes lower, but dropoffs on shows are minimal, and rises are common and usually people who are there, stick around, which brands and companies also like a lot. Will the deal be on the level of FOX or USA? I don't know, but even if it's in that ballpark or a little outside of it, AEW is going to be set. It won't silence the trolls, but what I hope does happen, is it calms people down for their future, because all things considered, it looks very bright.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Feb 4, 2022 3:35:41 GMT -5
We’re blaming South Park now? So can any other TV show not be on at the same time or something?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2022 3:41:38 GMT -5
We’re blaming South Park now? So can any other TV show not be on at the same time or something? South Park drew a .44 demo and was number one on the night, the demo AEW usually does the best in, and drew over 800,000 viewers who normally aren't tuning into Comedy Central right at the start of AEW Dynamite or otherwise, where they usually have their highest point of viewership on TBS. Common sense says it played a part because they are playing towards the same core audience and age range. It's literally no different than when RAW gets punched by The NFL or something like Real Housewives with their strong as hell demos when it's on
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 4, 2022 3:41:46 GMT -5
Can we have a list of people predicting doom for AEW in this thread based off this rating? Doesn't really seem any to me.
I genuinely don't know why there are AEW ratings threads on this board, as the conversation has to be so narrow. It's either a good rating and a massive win for them, or a mediocre/disappointing rating and then 'well someone once said two years ago that they were expecting to get 300-400k'.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 4, 2022 3:45:44 GMT -5
We’re blaming South Park now? So can any other TV show not be on at the same time or something? South Park drew a .44 demo and was number one on the night, the demo AEW usually does the best in, and drew over 800,000 viewers who normally aren't tuning into Comedy Central right at the start of AEW Dynamite or otherwise, where they usually have their highest point of viewership on TBS. Common sense says it played a part because they are playing towards the same core audience and age range. It's literally no different than when RAW gets punched by The NFL or something like Real Housewives with their strong as hell demos when it's on South Park did 800k overall. Monday Night Football averages 13.5 million viewers a week. 0.44 in the demo vs 3.26. Is that literally no different, in terms of competition?
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Post by clifford on Feb 4, 2022 4:11:11 GMT -5
So I’ve been asking this for a while now but…where did people get this impression they must be getting a million weekly or else they’re a failure? Like, under the terms of the present TV deal, as far as any of us know, the network only expected to be getting about 300-400k when it started and that was from the mouth of the head of programming at TNT. So besides it being a runaway success and TNT/TBS going out of its way to lavish praise on it when it gets the chance, it feels like this weird drumming of controversy to look at a rating triple the minimum and saying “OH MAN, THE DOWNFALL IS COMING!” and such. Not saying everyone has but I see it way too many times and have to ask. They’re supposed to get a new one sorted next year so that’ll likely put broader expectations since the networks can see what they’ll do now but right now? I’m not getting some of the panic. EDIT: Also, you know, South Park etc Rating slightly above a million = 'This company is GOING SOMEWHERE! EVERY DECISION MADE IN THE LAST MONTH IS VINDICATED' Rating slightly below a million= 'LOL THIS COMPANY IS AWFUL AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE SINCE 2019 IS A JOKE' The discourse is beyond tedious. It creates false hope and anxiety when there is a need for neither. We don't need to be twisting ourselves in knots coming up with reasons for a rating on a given week. Does the rating/demo make you enjoy the MJF/Punk match less? If yes, then its time to stop paying attention to that stuff (the ratings, not MJF/Punk)
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2022 5:08:48 GMT -5
Can we have a list of people predicting doom for AEW in this thread based off this rating? Doesn't really seem any to me. I genuinely don't know why there are AEW ratings threads on this board, as the conversation has to be so narrow. It's either a good rating and a massive win for them, or a mediocre/disappointing rating and then 'well someone once said two years ago that they were expecting to get 300-400k'. Here? No. There isn't a ton of doom talk. I'm personally talking about other places, unless I specify FAN in my postings. So Twitter, Reddit, the like Personally if I'm talking here, I mean when people say 950k and 3rd in cable is "disappointing" by that metric, it is overblown imo. AEW literally can't have a down week without it being a disappointment it seems, even if there is pretty sound reasoning as to why and it's the first time they've been under a million average in four weeks I think.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2022 5:13:01 GMT -5
South Park drew a .44 demo and was number one on the night, the demo AEW usually does the best in, and drew over 800,000 viewers who normally aren't tuning into Comedy Central right at the start of AEW Dynamite or otherwise, where they usually have their highest point of viewership on TBS. Common sense says it played a part because they are playing towards the same core audience and age range. It's literally no different than when RAW gets punched by The NFL or something like Real Housewives with their strong as hell demos when it's on South Park did 800k overall. Monday Night Football averages 13.5 million viewers a week. 0.44 in the demo vs 3.26. Is that literally no different, in terms of competition? It's about the crossover of the audiences. Someone in this very thread if you want FAN citations literally said they are a Nielson viewer who watched South Park over Dynamite. Yes Monday Night Football is obviously going to have a bigger audience, but a lot more of them are already tuning into the game over RAW anyway, or switch back and forth a lot. South Park on a different night had about 850K viewers, and then a good NBA Game was also on at the same time which can always have a chance to hurt especially when it starts before 8 like that one did. I don't think anyone here is saying AEW can't do better ratings because well, they have, but citing what they were up against I don't think is any stretch of the imagination to say why a number might not have done well this week, especially when AEW more often than not, does rebound from off weeks. Shit happens.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 4, 2022 5:16:40 GMT -5
Can we have a list of people predicting doom for AEW in this thread based off this rating? Doesn't really seem any to me. I genuinely don't know why there are AEW ratings threads on this board, as the conversation has to be so narrow. It's either a good rating and a massive win for them, or a mediocre/disappointing rating and then 'well someone once said two years ago that they were expecting to get 300-400k'. Here? No. There isn't a ton of doom talk. I'm personally talking about other places, unless I specify FAN in my postings. So Twitter, Reddit, the like Personally if I'm talking here, I mean when people say 950k and 3rd in cable is "disappointing" by that metric, it is overblown imo. AEW literally can't have a down week without it being a disappointment it seems, even if there is pretty sound reasoning as to why and it's the first time they've been under a million average in four weeks I think. If you want to argue with people on Reddit or Twitter, you should do it over there. Or at least make it abundantly clear that's what you're doing. There's way too much strawmanning of arguments in these threads that aren't actually happening on this board. Ultimately, if you're going to take the opinion that anything north of 400k is a success, there is no need to bother discussing anything in an AEW ratings thread. If you'd asked before yesterday, most people would've predicted this rating would be higher than what it ended up being. If you'd asked a year ago what a CM Punk-MJF main event would get, people would have predicted way higher. I think it's ok to discuss that rationally without leaping to defending the entire company's existence. We all know those arguments, they get made literally every week.
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