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Post by karl100589 on Feb 4, 2022 10:20:43 GMT -5
Having them wait on Becky vs Ronda is dumb in my opinion. What's Ronda's logic? Becky, you're the only person who's ever pinned me, but instead I want to face the other woman that was in our match for no apparent reason. Also, like a hundred things could happen between now and next years wrestlemania, that could prevent the match from happening. Ronda holds a grudge against the fans for the way they turned on her at Survivor Series, and holds Charlotte (her opponent that night) responsible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 10:25:49 GMT -5
Fair point Cena Vs Rock 1 was not for a title but also lets not ignore how drastically things have changed not just creatively but BTS since then.
The roster has been culled heavly and they are pretty much solely about profits and nothing else and also they still had the likes of HHH , Taker , Punk , Jericho on the active roster. so he had stability and star power that he could depend on without needing to shove the world/WWE title into Rock Vs Cena.
He saved that shit for the dissapointing sequel.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 4, 2022 10:28:47 GMT -5
The whole assumption that the Rock is a surefire bet to be there for next year and ready and capable to give them the kind of match they'll want is...well, it's an assumption. Makes you wonder how they'll get Roman there, given that he's pretty much out of challengers. They still have Edge - in his one on one match with Roman, he got screwed out of the title by Rollins. Speaking of Seth, the story between him and Reigns feels unfinished. And there is also Drew.
Yeah, but in that triple threat Roman pretty definitely put him down. With any of the guys who could challenge Roman you'd really have to come up with a fresh, different angle to approach a rematch from, since otherwise it's all rehash of matches that Roman already clearly came out the better on. Not to say WWE can't do that (babyface Brock being the main example), but they're not super reliable on that front.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 4, 2022 10:49:26 GMT -5
Having them wait on Becky vs Ronda is dumb in my opinion. What's Ronda's logic? Becky, you're the only person who's ever pinned me, but instead I want to face the other woman that was in our match for no apparent reason. Also, like a hundred things could happen between now and next years wrestlemania, that could prevent the match from happening. I do really agree with this. Before the Rumble, the last image WWE fans had was Becky pinning Ronda but Ronda having her shoulder slightly up which, yeah, it was a botch but there was a story there you could use going into this match. If I were Ronda, I’d be going after Becky right away to try and get revenge for the loss and Becky going “Well, you should have said it at the time” to which Ronda tries to kill her every chance she gets and picks her as her title challenger.
I think the more prosaic issue here is with Becky's current 'Big Time Becks' character, which doesn't really gel well with Ronda's. It's possible WWE feels that waiting longer for their match will let them get Becky into an alignment where their characters work better together. Though the thing there is that it's hard to recreate The Man because a lot of that was driven by the perception Becky had been 'held back' and was the underdog (despite incredibly protected booking) against corporate favourites Ronda and Charlotte, which is difficult to do again now simply due to how strong Becky's been booked and presented for so long.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 4, 2022 11:02:03 GMT -5
They’d better have some cool plans for Sasha at Mania. It’s a two night show, there’s no reason why they cannot find a good match for her on the show.
Using NXT people might have at least made the matches a bit more interesting.
I still have my doubts that The Rock ever wrestles again. Also Roman is closing in on freaking Hulk Hogan in terms of how many Mania’s he has main evented.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 11:03:21 GMT -5
They’d better have some cool plans for Sasha at Mania. It’s a two night show, there’s no reason why they cannot find a good match for her on the show. Using NXT people might have at least made the matches a bit more interesting. I still have my doubts that The Rock ever wrestles again. Also Roman is closing in on freaking Hulk Hogan in terms of how many Mania’s he has main evented. This Mania or the next will make it 7 Mania main events for Roman. By comparison...stone cold steve Austin only has 3 to his name.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 4, 2022 11:19:31 GMT -5
The one night of the year where Raw and Smackdown go head-to-head! Survivor SeWrestlemania!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 4, 2022 11:23:27 GMT -5
The one night of the year where Raw and Smackdown go head-to-head! Survivor SeWrestlemania! Technically Lesnar is a free agent and not linked to any brand…But I get your point.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 4, 2022 11:31:18 GMT -5
Yay for for continuing trend of having both the Rumble Winners main event a night of Mania but yuck at the actual matches
And not to be a dick but if dude was hurt bad enough that you couldn’t even tell the story you wanted to tell (and basically needed for a compelling finish), the f*** was the point of sticking Drew in there to go the distance? Have him eliminate the happy goofs and out. It’s the Rumble, there’s a million ways you could get him out but my goodness, these people specialize in being hardheaded
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Feb 4, 2022 11:40:21 GMT -5
Cool, so Rock returns and wins the Royal Rumble next year because why not? They’re handing out 2nd rumble wins like hot cakes these days. Taker will come out of retirement and win in 2024 at this rate.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 4, 2022 11:47:37 GMT -5
They’d better have some cool plans for Sasha at Mania. It’s a two night show, there’s no reason why they cannot find a good match for her on the show. Using NXT people might have at least made the matches a bit more interesting. I still have my doubts that The Rock ever wrestles again. Also Roman is closing in on freaking Hulk Hogan in terms of how many Mania’s he has main evented. This Mania or the next will make it 7 Mania main events for Roman. By comparison...stone cold steve Austin only has 3 to his name. Austin spent a shockingly little amount of time at the top. He was only THE top guy for a few years before injuries took their tole. WWE wants SO BADLY for Roman to be seen as this “all time great” talent.
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Post by ghost on Feb 4, 2022 11:51:32 GMT -5
Reigns/Brock Reigns/Rock Ronda/Charlotte Ronda/Becky
Creative on fire.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 4, 2022 11:54:19 GMT -5
I would not hat that AS much if they bothered to give others some cool matchups and fun stories as well. And it’s a two night show, it should not be hard to do that.
Then clearly not giving a crap about 99% of their roster is the worst part.
I remember how badly they treated Bayley at last years Mania after she had helped anchor SD during the empty arena area. And it looks like we might be getting more of that this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:01:11 GMT -5
Ronda wanting Charlotte before Becky makes sense. In that post-Rumble promo she cut after she went backstage she straight up said she's not falling for the cheers so she's still upset about what happened in that Charlotte match where they booed her against Charlotte. She cares more about Charlotte and the fan reaction than Becky.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 4, 2022 12:02:01 GMT -5
what I took from that is Bayley and Asuka could be returning soon, the rest I don't give a crap about
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 4, 2022 12:07:02 GMT -5
It feels like WWE has always wanted Rock to put over Roman to cement him but at this point it will be less of a coronation and more of an epilogue. By Wrestlemania 39 Roman will have already been the top guy for 8 years and will be a month away from his 38th birthday. That's the same age Cena was when he stopped working full-time in 2015. Having them wait on Becky vs Ronda is dumb in my opinion. What's Ronda's logic? Becky, you're the only person who's ever pinned me, but instead I want to face the other woman that was in our match for no apparent reason. Also, like a hundred things could happen between now and next years wrestlemania, that could prevent the match from happening. Kayfabe: Ronda's only defeat is to Becky and Becky is the person who basically caused her whole world to come crumbling down last time. Ronda's trying to play it cool but in reality she's ducking her. Non-kayfabe: Becky is a heel and for this run to have closure she has to put over Bianca (or another face) at Wrestlemania. They COULD "Austin the night after Survivor Series 2001" her and just have the babyface The Man character return now to feud with heel Ronda without her ever getting comeuppance but that would be WWE choosing their typical hotshot booking over giving something a natural conclusion. Although it appears they're doing exactly that with Charlotte who has been a heel champ for 6 months seemingly on a collision course with Sasha now she's suddenly either turning face or doing heel v heel with Ronda.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:09:29 GMT -5
I'd prefer if they did Ronda vs. Becky at SummerSlam and just got it out of the way there, but whatever.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 4, 2022 12:13:28 GMT -5
I fear that we’ll have a repeat of the last time where Ronda is champion for most of her run.
No please no.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 12:17:54 GMT -5
So apparently Heyman and Bork are the ones pushing for the title Vs title match at Mania this year.
Who wants to bet he ends up doing the same next year for Becky and Ronda.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 4, 2022 12:20:40 GMT -5
Yay for for continuing trend of having both the Rumble Winners main event a night of Mania but yuck at the actual matches And not to be a dick but if dude was hurt bad enough that you couldn’t even tell the story you wanted to tell (and basically needed for a compelling finish), the f*** was the point of sticking Drew in there to go the distance? Have him eliminate the happy goofs and out. It’s the Rumble, there’s a million ways you could get him out but my goodness, these people specialize in being hardheaded And if Sasha couldn’t work, why send her out there FIRST and then just deflate people by having her taken out so early?
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