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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 7, 2022 11:08:40 GMT -5
Ronda's first interview was her saying how she wasn't gonna fall for the fans cheering her this time, she's BITTER AF and the crowds haven't even started booing her again yet. That’s the weird thing, the crowds haven’t even turned on her again yet in this new run. They would’ve for sure had she continued to get paired off with Lynch, but her being paired off with Flair kinda leaves you like the “sweating guy in front of the two buttons” meme.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 7, 2022 14:41:53 GMT -5
Ronda could be connecting with these audiences so much more if she would stop being so proud and all high and mighty.
Yeah, Becky got hot, but that’s gonna happen in wrestling, someone always breaks through unexpectedly because it’s such a random art form.
She’s a great performer when she’s got her head on straight, Flair is a natural heel, and the fans want to support Ronda because she’s a big star and she can have kickass matches that stand out. I don’t know if Becky should be heel ATM necessarily, I know Vince wants her as that arrogant trash talker but they don’t need two “Nature Girls” now.
Still, Ronda can get face support against both of them if she’s not being all pissy like that past Raw.
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Post by mistery on Feb 7, 2022 15:37:53 GMT -5
Ronda could be connecting with these audiences so much more if she would stop being so proud and all high and mighty. Yeah, Becky got hot, but that’s gonna happen in wrestling, someone always breaks through unexpectedly because it’s such a random art form. She’s a great performer when she’s got her head on straight, Flair is a natural heel, and the fans want to support Ronda because she’s a big star and she can have kickass matches that stand out. I don’t know if Becky should be heel ATM necessarily, I know Vince wants her as that arrogant trash talker but they don’t need two “Nature Girls” now. Still, Ronda can get face support against both of them if she’s not being all pissy like that past Raw. I think Ronda has a hard time connecting because she's not as good as a lot of the other women on the card. She's okay at some basic level offense (mainly MMA related things for obvious reasons), but her matches tend to be heavily scripted and as a result don't tend to be very fluid either. And she has very little actual charisma compared to women like Asuka, Becky, Sasha, Bayley, etc. While it's blatantly obvious Ronda would beat all of their asses in a straight up shoot fight, all of the women I mentioned above in particular feel more imposing and feel like more of a "must see" kind of deal opposed to Rousey. Whose star faded long ago after she got destroyed twice and retired throwing a fit in the process.
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Post by mc74 on Feb 7, 2022 21:57:47 GMT -5
Latest Observer Radio mentioned that Ronda is basically back because she wants to wrestle despite how fans perceive her, as she legitimately hates all of us. I guess creative mentioned to her backstage that if she's going to be this bitter towards the fans, she is going to be an awful babyface. Dave could not emphasize any more clearly how bitter Ronda is towards fans for being cold towards or booing her right now. They do plan to spin her as a babyface going forward into Wrestlemania though. Obvious problem is that literally every woman in this feud right now isn't even remotely likable. So this is going to be the coldest Wrestlemania main event in recent memory, or one of the most hostile crowds out there. Couple that with the fact Roman vs Brock has been done numerous times already, not to mention the last time they've main evented Wrestlemania, the crowd totally shat on it. Many people never wanted it then, and damn well sure they don't want it now either.
But alas, this is what they're trotting out for Wrestlemania. There were so many better options going into Wrestlemania they could've focused on, but they chose this instead. WWE's booked themselves into a corner, and if this turns out to be the drizzling shits, then that's what they have to live with.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 7, 2022 22:05:29 GMT -5
Could Vince just f***ing stop booking Mania events a year in advance? Read the damn room getting close to the Rumble and go from there. How the hell did HHH/Steph vs Rock/Ronda work out in the end?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 8, 2022 15:01:07 GMT -5
Have they actually booked Rocky this time? Or is Roman going to feud with an egg the whole buildup and then somehow wrestle a hologram
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 8, 2022 15:04:57 GMT -5
Vince trying to book Mania main events a year in advance. Yet they cannot even book their shows consistently week to week.
A LOT can happen in a year, it’s better to keep your options somewhat flexible imo.
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Post by mc74 on Feb 8, 2022 15:37:10 GMT -5
Vince trying to book Mania main events a year in advance. Yet they cannot even book their shows consistently week to week. A LOT can happen in a year, it’s better to keep your options somewhat flexible imo. Now imagine if it turns out Rock isn't able to show up next year. What does WWE do then?
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Post by eJm on Feb 8, 2022 15:39:44 GMT -5
Have they actually booked Rocky this time? Or is Roman going to feud with an egg the whole buildup and then somehow wrestle a hologram Silly Gizzark. Roman's going to feud with whatever the main cast gets from the Louvre at the end of the first movie. Probably the Mona Lisa or something.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 8, 2022 15:43:33 GMT -5
Vince trying to book Mania main events a year in advance. Yet they cannot even book their shows consistently week to week. A LOT can happen in a year, it’s better to keep your options somewhat flexible imo. Now imagine if it turns out Rock isn't able to show up next year. What does WWE do then? Just pivot to a different match. Why are we acting like it would be hard for them to just pivot off of it? It’s not like they built up a Rock match on TV.
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Post by mc74 on Feb 8, 2022 15:57:00 GMT -5
Now imagine if it turns out Rock isn't able to show up next year. What does WWE do then? Just pivot to a different match. Why are we acting like it would be hard for them to just pivot off of it? It’s not like they built up a Rock match on TV. The problem isn't that it's hard to do so, but rather WWE just won't. Rather than do something fresh for a change & use Roman's reign as a means of helping elevate someone to the next level, they're more dead set on making Roman vs Rock happen next year. In the meantime, they've got Brock challenging him at Wrestlemania when there is literally no need for that match to happen.
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Post by eJm on Feb 8, 2022 16:00:05 GMT -5
Like, yeah, the big issue is they need to get Rock signed and they need to get him signed soon because his schedule could inflate easily in the next few months depending on stuff like Black Adam or even the Super-Pets film doing well. And that's not even going into if, God forbid, Universal pull off a miracle and sign him for the last mainline Fast and the Furious movie.
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Post by mc74 on Feb 8, 2022 16:07:33 GMT -5
Like, yeah, the big issue is they need to get Rock signed and they need to get him signed soon because his schedule could inflate easily in the next few months depending on stuff like Black Adam or even the Super-Pets film doing well. And that's not even going into if, God forbid, Universal pull off a miracle and sign him for the last mainline Fast and the Furious movie. Precisely, if they want that match to happen, they need to get a deal done ASAP before anything else comes up. The sooner they can get him penciled in, the better because once his schedule inflates, it's gonna be difficult for him to find the time.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 8, 2022 16:12:45 GMT -5
Just pivot to a different match. Why are we acting like it would be hard for them to just pivot off of it? It’s not like they built up a Rock match on TV. The problem isn't that it's hard to do so, but rather WWE just won't. Rather than do something fresh for a change & use Roman's reign as a means of helping elevate someone to the next level, they're more dead set on making Roman vs Rock happen next year. In the meantime, they've got Brock challenging him at Wrestlemania when there is literally no need for that match to happen. Your point I thought was what if Rock can’t make it. That wouldn’t be a big deal, they would just start building up a different feud, whatever that may be. And the “need” for Lesnar-Reigns this year is more about Lesnar’s run as a face being surprisingly successfully so putting the top babyface against the top heel is usually what’s best for Mania. You don’t always need to be putting over the “future”, sometimes you just have the biggest matches you can because it’s a big show. Then other years, you have it where you’re building up the future (like with McIntyre 2 years ago and Bianca last year).
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Post by gl83 on Feb 8, 2022 16:36:20 GMT -5
Now imagine if it turns out Rock isn't able to show up next year. What does WWE do then? Just pivot to a different match. Why are we acting like it would be hard for them to just pivot off of it? It’s not like they built up a Rock match on TV. The problem stems from them wiping out a good chunk of their roster to Roman Reigns already during his current title reign. Right now the only full-time main event-caliber person on the Smackdown roster is Drew McIntyre, and he's supposedly going to feud with Reigns after WM. So, they're not leaving a lot of fresh options for next year should Rock be unable or unavailable to work WrestleMania. And it's not like they've been building anyone up to a main event level. Say what you will about Raw, but at least they're trying to build people like Riddle and Austin Theory.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 8, 2022 16:41:35 GMT -5
Vince trying to book Mania main events a year in advance. Yet they cannot even book their shows consistently week to week. A LOT can happen in a year, it’s better to keep your options somewhat flexible imo. Now imagine if it turns out Rock isn't able to show up next year. What does WWE do then? Michael Cole at WM39: Fans, we've just recieved word that the Rock accidently drank an invisibility potion backstage.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 8, 2022 16:42:26 GMT -5
Just pivot to a different match. Why are we acting like it would be hard for them to just pivot off of it? It’s not like they built up a Rock match on TV. The problem stems from them wiping out a good chunk of their roster to Roman Reigns already during his current title reign. Right now the only full-time main event-caliber person on the Smackdown roster is Drew McIntyre, and he's supposedly going to feud with Reigns after WM. So, they're not leaving a lot of fresh options for next year should Rock be unable or unavailable to work WrestleMania. And it's not like they've been building anyone up to a main event level. Say what you will about Raw, but at least they're trying to build people like Riddle and Austin Theory. There’s a draft between now and Mania 2023 (not to mention the Rumble) so anyone on Raw is fair game for a Reigns matchup too. Rollins, Lashley, Styles, Riddle, Orton, Priest are all fresh matchups to varying degrees.
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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on Feb 8, 2022 16:55:21 GMT -5
- Roman vs Brock is slated to be title vs title as the main event of Night 2 as its the "best direction creatively" (my note: it won't merge the divisions, as MITB is the first show after WM, so expect Roman to drop the WWE title there via cash in). YES! I'm 100% good with this. It should've been the direction all along. No Raw match is worthy of a WWE Title match this year. The only one that would've been is somehow getting the title to Orton/Riddle and having that match. And honestly, if it did merge the title for 6 months to a year, this gives Roman Reigns reason to appear on both shows.
- Roman vs The Rock is the planned main event for Wrestlemania 39. As I figured. Hopefully The Rock can do this, and I don't want Roman dropping the belt before then either.
- Charlotte vs Ronda is the plan for this year's main event for Night 1. Yawn.
- Becky vs Ronda is the plan for next year's Mania. No word on if it'll main event or not, assuming its a two night show again. Bigger yawn. Get rid of Ronda.
- Bayley and Asuka are expected to be back by time Wrestlemania rolls around, Lacey has no real timetable for return I'm ready for Bayley to come back. Asuka's okay too. I could do without Lacey Evans tho
- NXT was slated to be part of the Rumble this year and several talents were backstage (Dunne, Knight, Shirai, Kai), but they weren't used, and no reason was given. Yeah, really surprised nobody got the nod. I'm assuming we'll get a few talents, including those listed above, in the callups post-Mania.
- Banks and McIntyre were both late additions to the Rumble. Drew got himself cleared and will be careful until Wrestlemania. I love McIntyre but he needs to take care of himself. I would've been fine with him staying on the shelf a little longer. I wonder what match he gets involved in at Mania.
- The finish to the Mens Rumble was going to be Lesnar winning still, but he would have been taken to his limits by McIntyre, but due to time constraints, they had to rush the finish. I don't think Lesnar needed to win the Rumble to get his match with Reigns, but this sealed in my mind that the Night 2 main event would be title for title. You could've easily elevated a Raw star, like Matt Riddle, and got to a WWE Championship match that way. But as soon as Lesnar won, it was the best decision to make it title for title. Could even do a NJPW thing where Lesnar faces Lashley on Night 1 and the winner faces Reigns on Night 2... but I think it'll be the Elimination Chamber.
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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on Feb 8, 2022 16:57:48 GMT -5
Vince trying to book Mania main events a year in advance. Yet they cannot even book their shows consistently week to week. A LOT can happen in a year, it’s better to keep your options somewhat flexible imo. I mean, I find the irony... but Mania's headlining matches should be planned a year in advance to know how to get there. With that said, they should put thought into their weekly programming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 17:22:26 GMT -5
Looks to me like they're trying to "redo" the whole "Becky beats Ronda at WM" thing. Surely by next year Becky's going to be a face and Ronda the big bad heel and now with Charlotte "out of the way" in Ronda's story they can run that. As for Charlotte, not gonna be surprised if she's facing Bianca next year.
It just feels like they're building both women's divisions around this "Becky vs Ronda" storyline. Charlotte's just there to add to Ronda's resume.
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