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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2022 23:32:25 GMT -5
After much hype and speculation who got signed or re-signed to a company and for various reasons flopped or didn’t live up to expectations.
Matt Hardy resigns with WWE - 2005
One botched promo. Being knocked out at Summerslam and a cage match loss later. He’s sent to Smackdown and the run was mostly forgettable.
Bret Hart signs with WCW - 1997
I don’t think I need to do explain this one.
Marty Scrull re-signs with ROH - 2020
Huge contact and booking powers. Was starting to rebuild the brand. Repairing relationships with NWA and NJPW. One pandemic and speaking out post later. He was quietly let go from the company when his contract expired.
Drew Gulak re-signs with WWE - 2020.
Not the biggest signing but he did have a decent match with Daniel Bryan only to since be involved with never ending 24/7 segments.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 5, 2022 23:33:17 GMT -5
I think Gulak does some stuff behind the scenes too now.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Mar 5, 2022 23:40:54 GMT -5
I don't think Matt's post-2005 WWE run was that bad, actually?
His feud with MVP was excellent.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 5, 2022 23:41:24 GMT -5
Aron Rex in 2016.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 5, 2022 23:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 5, 2022 23:53:55 GMT -5
Cain in WWE didn't work out for a lot of reasons.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 6, 2022 2:33:51 GMT -5
Anytime somebody returns to WWE after time in Japan and/or Mexico and people say they're good now.
Lord Tensai, Del Rio, Gallows...
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 6, 2022 3:22:58 GMT -5
Brian Pillman Sr. For what they signed him for and what he was able to do. I'd semi count that even though there's mitigating circumstances
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Post by 67 more on Mar 6, 2022 3:28:24 GMT -5
Anytime somebody returns to WWE after time in Japan and/or Mexico and people say they're good now. Lord Tensai, Del Rio, Gallows... In defence of Del Rio, he was having a fantastic run as a fiery babyface outside WWE. Blame WWE for immediately making him as dull as possible with that Mexican America bollocks.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 6, 2022 3:35:54 GMT -5
Brian Pillman Sr. For what they signed him for and what he was able to do. I'd semi count that even though there's mitigating circumstances Even if he really didn't get to do a lot, a lot of big acts got to play on his character and came out better for it. For example, one of the early defining moments of the Stone Cold character was when Pillman was trying to hype the freshly announced Austin vs. Bret match for Survivor Series, and Austin immediately turned on him and attacked his injured leg so viciously that it flat out named the Pillmanizer. And then his inclusion in the Hart Foundation gave the stable an extra edge that just the Harts alone didn't have. Also, the Hummer accident took place before Pillman signed with the WWF, so while no one quite anticipated the way his run would end, they understood even when signing it that he wasn't in the best of health, though they would have anticipated being able to use him in non-wrestler roles if his career was going to end under contract.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Mar 6, 2022 3:46:37 GMT -5
I don't think Matt's post-2005 WWE run was that bad, actually? His feud with MVP was excellent. From the time he was sent to SD in late 05 until he started teaming with Jeff again in late 06 Matt was basically a JTTS for that year. His highlights as far as I can remember were a couple of really good matches with Cruiserweight champion Gregory Helms. But they were non title matches so what was the point other than filling time on SD B-PPV's? He regained momentum back after the Hardy's reunion and eventually the great feud with MVP.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Mar 6, 2022 4:54:56 GMT -5
i would have to say Samoa Joe 2021. after he got released by WWE, he could have gone to AEW or New Japan, or gone back to Impact or ROH. instead he went straight back to WWE developmental for less money, where he was used to take the title off the champion so he could go get buried under a shit gimmick on the main roster (and then released), had to/was made to vacate the title due to medical/"medical" issues (right when they decided to move the brand in a completely opposite direction of what Joe was), was relegated to a backstage role, and then was fired again
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 6, 2022 5:48:29 GMT -5
Anytime somebody returns to WWE after time in Japan and/or Mexico and people say they're good now. Lord Tensai, Del Rio, Gallows... Tensai was already good, honestly. The bigger issue was the corny gimmick, along with Albert already being pretty much primed to retire, where he was moved to train at the Performance Center. So far, he's one of the Triple H guys who has kept their job, so maybe he's out of the danger zone there.
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 6, 2022 6:06:12 GMT -5
I seem to remember Bischoff and Steph feuding over their attempts to sign Scott Steiner. Steiner failed as a main event babyface and hung around the midcard until his contract ended the following year.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Mar 6, 2022 6:34:16 GMT -5
Love KENTA always but I think Hideo Itami was one of the biggest flops of the last decade in this regard. Dude had a whole signing press conference, all this company hype around him like Meet Japan's Most Interesting Man and was introduced on NXT by f***ing Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan did an intro for KENTA. That's surreal lmao.
I think as far as the last decade goes tho, Aron Rex rly is the gold standard for shitty rebound runs. His career still hasn't recovered and likely never will.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 6, 2022 6:47:27 GMT -5
I think as far as the last decade goes tho, Aron Rex rly is the gold standard for shitty rebound runs. His career still hasn't recovered and likely never will. It really seemed like the NWA had something with Aron Stevens though, but it just didn't work out, mostly for reasons that no one was to blame, though they had a second chance and didn't pull the trigger. The decision to have him become a Z-list movie actor, essentially becoming The Miz and living long enough to become the villain, was a good idea and played to his strengths, namely his character work. Then, the NWA struck gold with the Question Mark and he got put with Stevens and the dynamic was perfect. Sadly, the COVID-19 pandemic struck as they were beginning to really flesh out the team dynamic. And then as the NWA was finally beginning to run shows in some fashion again, Josephus died, permanently ending their act for good. That said, it's crazy that Billy Pumpkins went ahead and had Aron Stevens vs. Nick Aldis for the NWA World title at the first show after Josephus passed and whiffed on the most obvious feel good ending to the long ass Aldis reign of terror there ever was. Especially in retrospect knowing what was to come, I think Cardona's fifth rehash of his GCW title run with the 10 lbs of gold would have been far more effective if he took it off of Aron Stevens bearing the flag of Mongrovia as opposed to Trevor Murdoch, much less how unappealing the Murdoch reign as a successor to Aldis was.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 6, 2022 8:35:46 GMT -5
I think as far as the last decade goes tho, Aron Rex rly is the gold standard for shitty rebound runs. His career still hasn't recovered and likely never will. It really seemed like the NWA had something with Aron Stevens though, but it just didn't work out, mostly for reasons that no one was to blame, though they had a second chance and didn't pull the trigger. The decision to have him become a Z-list movie actor, essentially becoming The Miz and living long enough to become the villain, was a good idea and played to his strengths, namely his character work. Then, the NWA struck gold with the Question Mark and he got put with Stevens and the dynamic was perfect. Sadly, the COVID-19 pandemic struck as they were beginning to really flesh out the team dynamic. And then as the NWA was finally beginning to run shows in some fashion again, Josephus died, permanently ending their act for good. That said, it's crazy that Billy Pumpkins went ahead and had Aron Stevens vs. Nick Aldis for the NWA World title at the first show after Josephus passed and whiffed on the most obvious feel good ending to the long ass Aldis reign of terror there ever was. Especially in retrospect knowing what was to come, I think Cardona's fifth rehash of his GCW title run with the 10 lbs of gold would have been far more effective if he took it off of Aron Stevens bearing the flag of Mongrovia as opposed to Trevor Murdoch, much less how unappealing the Murdoch reign as a successor to Aldis was. Stevens had a pretty good Tag Team run since NWA return as well. The NWA for sure got more out of him than Impact did I will say that.
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Post by fg on Mar 6, 2022 8:48:40 GMT -5
After much hype and speculation who got signed or re-signed to a company and for various reasons flopped or didn’t live up to expectations. Matt Hardy resigns with WWE - 2005 One botched promo. Being knocked out at Summerslam and a cage match loss later. He’s sent to Smackdown and the run was mostly forgettable. Bret Hart signs with WCW - 1997 I don’t think I need to do explain this one. Marty Scrull re-signs with ROH - 2020 Huge contact and booking powers. Was starting to rebuild the brand. Repairing relationships with NWA and NJPW. One pandemic and speaking out post later. He was quietly let go from the company when his contract expired. Drew Gulak re-signs with WWE - 2020. Not the biggest signing but he did have a decent match with Daniel Bryan only to since be involved with never ending 24/7 segments. Matt won that steel cage match but did lose the follow up match which was a loser-leaves-Raw to lose the feud. That steel cage match was the ONLY win he had.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 6, 2022 10:03:32 GMT -5
I think Gulak does some stuff behind the scenes too now. Yep coach and I believe is heavily involved now in training the women. Sin Cara/Mistico has to be the biggest flop with the hype. People sometimes forget that when he got signed he was thr biggest draw of any wrestler in the world outside of WWE. But the guy's ego and refusal to adapt cost him. Random thought but didn't WWF back on the day make a huge deal about signing Tiger Ali Singh just venture of who is dad was?
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Post by Terry McConkey on Mar 6, 2022 11:54:57 GMT -5
Wasn't Tony Nese hyped up before he signed?
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