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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 3, 2023 13:23:44 GMT -5
Just watched it and it's a blast though does feel like a bit of a missed opportunity that they didn't work the lyrical version of the TOS theme in.
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Post by thechase on Aug 5, 2023 6:10:58 GMT -5
I caught the musical episode, I managed about twenty minutes and a few numbers before checking out and just watching the Klingon spot on Youtube. None of the songs are very catchy, some of the cast sounded a little off, the best bits where with Kirk setting the boundaries and mentioning Carol, and that thankfully had no songs accompanying it.
Those nods to Buffy were good though.
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Post by schma on Aug 10, 2023 8:12:42 GMT -5
I figured the season would end on a cliffhanger. I get why they do it, but I don't want to wait for the conclusion.
Already this series has made its way into my favorites and I hope we get several more seasons.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 10, 2023 8:36:53 GMT -5
Since I went on vacation, I am sitll catching up with this season. Just watched the episode where Spock becomes human. Very funny.
I know I've said this before, but this is a great series. And I am so glad they did it a stand-alone episode format. Makes it so much easier to follow and just allows for a series of fun, sometimes camp and silly space adventures. They've struck the tone right between being silly and camp, without going TOO overboard and turning it into a flatout comedy and giving us enough stronger character based drama and tensions and serious episodes.
It actually feels very Doctor Who in that regard. A good blend of silliness and seriousness without getting too bogged down either way.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 10, 2023 9:27:06 GMT -5
My only criticism, if it can be called that, is the emotional whiplash of the last few episodes. We go from an emotionally-charged opening few episodes, {Spoiler}including putting Una on trial for basically existing, La'an finally making a connection to somebody only for them to die and then being put in a position to save the life of somebody she knows will go on to commit genocide, and a pseudo-horror episode featuring zombie Hemmer, to a literal Lower Decks episode, followed by M'Benga Does a Murder, to Star Trek: The Musical. Still, it's a very small complaint. "Subspace Rhapsody" is the weakest episode for me, but even that episode is a solid 7/10. I hope this show keeps going for at least another five seasons. It and Lower Decks are absolute pleasures to watch.
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Post by Muskrat on Aug 10, 2023 10:33:28 GMT -5
I hope this show keeps going for at least another five seasons. It and Lower Decks are absolute pleasures to watch. That’s where I’m at too, those two shows are such a joy I hope they go for years
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Post by Cyno on Aug 10, 2023 15:14:27 GMT -5
My only criticism, if it can be called that, is the emotional whiplash of the last few episodes. We go from an emotionally-charged opening few episodes, {Spoiler}{Spoiler}including putting Una on trial for basically existing, La'an finally making a connection to somebody only for them to die and then being put in a position to save the life of somebody she knows will go on to commit genocide, and a pseudo-horror episode featuring zombie Hemmer, to a literal Lower Decks episode, followed by M'Benga Does a Murder, to Star Trek: The Musical. Still, it's a very small complaint. "Subspace Rhapsody" is the weakest episode for me, but even that episode is a solid 7/10. I hope this show keeps going for at least another five seasons. It and Lower Decks are absolute pleasures to watch. This is a thing with Star Trek episode runs in general. Like DS9 followed up an episode about the horrors of war in "Nor the Battle to the Strong" with "Trials and Tribble-ations" two weeks later. Or the silly Holosuite heist episode of "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" being sandwiched between the far more serious episodes of "Chimera" and "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges". Episodes with a lot of social commentary about xenophobia and the erosion of civil rights and the rule of law in the face of war.
Instead of emotional whiplash, I think the silly episodes have a purpose in giving an emotional breather in between deathly serious episodes.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 10, 2023 15:23:52 GMT -5
This is a thing with Star Trek episode runs in general. Like DS9 followed up an episode about the horrors of war in "Nor the Battle to the Strong" with "Trials and Tribble-ations" two weeks later. Or the silly Holosuite heist episode of "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" being sandwiched between the far more serious episodes of "Chimera" and "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges". Episodes with a lot of social commentary about xenophobia and the erosion of civil rights and the rule of law in the face of war. Instead of emotional whiplash, I think the silly episodes have a purpose in giving an emotional breather in between deathly serious episodes. True, I think it just feels more pronounced due to the shorter seasons. It's also making me nostalgic for DS9. Some of those sillier episodes were absolute treasures.
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Post by schma on Aug 10, 2023 20:23:50 GMT -5
My only criticism, if it can be called that, is the emotional whiplash of the last few episodes. We go from an emotionally-charged opening few episodes, {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}including putting Una on trial for basically existing, La'an finally making a connection to somebody only for them to die and then being put in a position to save the life of somebody she knows will go on to commit genocide, and a pseudo-horror episode featuring zombie Hemmer, to a literal Lower Decks episode, followed by M'Benga Does a Murder, to Star Trek: The Musical. Still, it's a very small complaint. "Subspace Rhapsody" is the weakest episode for me, but even that episode is a solid 7/10. I hope this show keeps going for at least another five seasons. It and Lower Decks are absolute pleasures to watch. This is a thing with Star Trek episode runs in general. Like DS9 followed up an episode about the horrors of war in "Nor the Battle to the Strong" with "Trials and Tribble-ations" two weeks later. Or the silly Holosuite heist episode of "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" being sandwiched between the far more serious episodes of "Chimera" and "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges". Episodes with a lot of social commentary about xenophobia and the erosion of civil rights and the rule of law in the face of war.
Instead of emotional whiplash, I think the silly episodes have a purpose in giving an emotional breather in between deathly serious episodes. That makes a lot of sense. I actually gave up on Burn Notice in the final season because they jacked it up to 11 and just left it there (there were other reasons too but the fatigue was real. You can only take the takes being heightened for so long).
In the case of Strange New Worlds, they managed to work it so that the silly came to them and served to move the serious forward, that's a fine line to tread.
Also, DS9 is fantastic and anyone considering rewatching it should do so.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 11, 2023 10:04:34 GMT -5
Just watched the cartoon crossover episode.
That was a lot of fun. But the cartoon series looks very obnoxious and annoying.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 11, 2023 10:32:32 GMT -5
Just watched the cartoon crossover episode. That was a lot of fun. But the cartoon series looks very obnoxious and annoying. First few episodes are rough, to the point where it put me off giving it a proper chance until this year, but it quickly finds its feet and feels like an almost perfect love letter to TNG while also giving some shine to TAS. But your mileage will definitely vary depending on whether you jive with outright comedy in your Star Trek.
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Post by eJm on Aug 11, 2023 15:37:16 GMT -5
Just watched the cartoon crossover episode. That was a lot of fun. But the cartoon series looks very obnoxious and annoying. As Mighty Attack Tribble said, it gets the “We’re an adult cartoon” vibes out of its system as the first season goes on and, genuinely, becomes a show that adores Star Trek and loves the fact it’s technically canon. The second and third seasons in particular are just so much fun.
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Post by eJm on Aug 11, 2023 15:43:04 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Also, props for the unintended move of leaving things on a cliffhanger and basically forcing Paramount to have to renew it after the strikes are over, combined with its streaming success overall. Good foresight, there! I’ve enjoyed this season overall. Ad Astra and Those Old Scientists are ones I’d gladly put with any high profile ST episode and as said, this needs another 2-3 seasons at least. The episodic format makes it open to the sort of adventures seen in other ST shows.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 11, 2023 15:57:11 GMT -5
As Mighty Attack Tribble said, it gets the “We’re an adult cartoon” vibes out of its system as the first season goes on and, genuinely, becomes a show that adores Star Trek and loves the fact it’s technically canon. And it's a great premise, too. While Picard and his capital ship peers are off making first contact, somebody's got to be there to do the donkey work to get the nuts and bolts of connecting a civilisation to the Federation. One of my big fears after watching the first season trailers and opening episodes was Mike McMahan running the show as "Rick and Morty in Star Trek" but if anything I feel like it's shares more in common in tone and comedy style to peak Futurama. {Spoiler}Also, "Give me warp in the factor of 5-6-7-8" is both hilarious and easily my favourite captain's order since each captain having their own 'catchphrase' became a thing.
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Post by eJm on Aug 11, 2023 16:03:45 GMT -5
As Mighty Attack Tribble said, it gets the “We’re an adult cartoon” vibes out of its system as the first season goes on and, genuinely, becomes a show that adores Star Trek and loves the fact it’s technically canon. And it's a great premise, too. While Picard and his capital ship peers are off making first contact, somebody's got to be there to do the donkey work to get the nuts and bolts of connecting a civilisation to the Federation. One of my big fears after watching the first season trailers and opening episodes was Mike McMahan running the show as "Rick and Morty in Star Trek" but if anything I feel like it's shares more in common in tone and comedy style to peak Futurama. And you just grow to love those goofballs who do the grunt work in various ways, whether through arcs or character moments or full on episodes that sprinkle Star Trek references in between. I’ve said before, it’s a Star Trek show that loves being a Star Trek show which, as you said, those few episodes of the first season didn’t quite click with. When it does? Hoooo man. That 4th season can’t come fast enough.
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Post by Muskrat on Aug 11, 2023 17:49:25 GMT -5
This is a thing with Star Trek episode runs in general. Like DS9 followed up an episode about the horrors of war in "Nor the Battle to the Strong" with "Trials and Tribble-ations" two weeks later. Or the silly Holosuite heist episode of "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" being sandwiched between the far more serious episodes of "Chimera" and "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges". Episodes with a lot of social commentary about xenophobia and the erosion of civil rights and the rule of law in the face of war. Instead of emotional whiplash, I think the silly episodes have a purpose in giving an emotional breather in between deathly serious episodes. True, I think it just feels more pronounced due to the shorter seasons. It's also making me nostalgic for DS9. Some of those sillier episodes were absolute treasures. Take Me Out to the Holosuite is one of my absolute favourite Star Trek episodes ever
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Post by Muskrat on Aug 11, 2023 17:57:54 GMT -5
Completely off topic, but getting caught up on the last 2 episodes, if you tried to tell me Rebecca Romijn was 30 not 50 I’d have no problem believing you. She still looks fantastic
EDIT: While we’re at it, never would’ve guessed Christina Chong is about to turn 40. Had her pegged at late 20’s.
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Post by schma on Aug 11, 2023 18:05:51 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Also, props for the unintended move of leaving things on a cliffhanger and basically forcing Paramount to have to renew it after the strikes are over, combined with its streaming success overall. Good foresight, there! I’ve enjoyed this season overall. Ad Astra and Those Old Scientists are ones I’d gladly put with any high profile ST episode and as said, this needs another 2-3 seasons at least. The episodic format makes it open to the sort of adventures seen in other ST shows. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} It's a common tactic shows use. However, there's always the possibility that it doesn't work and the audience is left hanging. Duckman, Reboot and many other shows can attest to this.
However, given that Strange New Worlds seems to be pulling in solid numbers, I figure it's safe for a while yet. I've been going out of my way to talk it up to lapsed star trek fans.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 13, 2023 16:16:35 GMT -5
"You suck, McBain Spock!"
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Post by eJm on Sept 13, 2023 16:22:54 GMT -5
"You suck, McBain Spock!" I don’t share the opinion of these shorts being bad per say (the first is sort of a weird guilty pleasure) but they do feel like first drafts. Like if there was some tweaking to the timing and such, they’d be way better. Which is sort of a shame because the animation is on point.
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