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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 20, 2022 12:52:46 GMT -5
 New Proud N Powerful. Ummm....who is that please? I need to know for... Reasons. Indy wrestler Gabby Ortiz. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 5, 2022 22:56:56 GMT -5
So whatever beef Santana may have or why he may want to leave AEW, it never had anything to do with Ortiz, and they never had a falling out
So this is another great opportunity to say f*** Ringside News!
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Post by champchumpchange on Jul 6, 2022 12:50:17 GMT -5
So whatever beef Santana may have or why he may want to leave AEW, it never had anything to do with Ortiz, and they never had a falling out So this is another great opportunity to say f*** Ringside News! He speculated on a livestream that there was beef between the two of them, pointing to the fact that they didn't stand side by side or hadn't teamed in months. |
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Post by champchumpchange on Jul 13, 2022 12:25:21 GMT -5
Konnan confirms they aren't on speaking terms.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jul 13, 2022 12:55:35 GMT -5
Konnan confirms they aren't on speaking terms. Yeah, Konnan and his crew have their own little slant but I’d doubt he’d say “yes” so bluntly without it being true. He knows those cats. |
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 13, 2022 12:57:18 GMT -5
Konnan confirms they aren't on speaking terms. Yeah, Konnan and his crew have their own little slant but I’d doubt he’d say “yes” so bluntly without it being true. He knows those cats. Yeah I usually take his stuff with a grain of salt but he does know these guys so its probably true. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 13, 2022 13:00:52 GMT -5
Konnan confirms they aren't on speaking terms. I mean hate to jump to conclusions but before the injury it was quite clear something wasn't right there. Hopefully they can work it out since they're lifelong friends but it's kind of hard to ignore things have been weird |
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Post by salz4life on Jul 13, 2022 14:22:57 GMT -5
I'd trust what Konnan says about Santana and Ortiz over SRS.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 14, 2022 6:33:45 GMT -5
Yeah, Konnan can be a carny sometimes, but it's quite clear that Proud n Powerful are his boys.
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Post by dreidemy on Jul 14, 2022 9:48:16 GMT -5
Ummm....who is that please? I need to know for... Reasons. Indy wrestler Gabby Ortiz. I love Gabby, she's awesome |
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Post by Denny Zen on Jul 14, 2022 9:53:41 GMT -5
I know this is all wild speculation about people we don’t know, but the way this is playing out in the public eye really does make it seem like Santana has been unhappy with PNP’s push in AEW and was leaning towards leaving at the end of his contract, while Ortiz has is happy and was leaning towards signing an extension.
Santana certainly has the tools to be a single star, but you have to figure he’d have way more negotiating leverage with WWE (or wherever else he may choose to go) as part of an established tag team, so Ortiz having a difference of opinion may have really strained their relationship. It makes sense.
And, even before Santana blew his knee out, Ortiz was starting to associate and tag with Kingston more and they’d already done the head shaving angle (which has given Ortiz a look more cohesive with Eddie in my opinion). Seems like the seeds of Ortiz proceeding on without Santana were being planted for months.
And that’s without getting into all of Santana’s cryptic tweets over the last several months.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jul 17, 2022 12:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 20, 2022 15:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 20, 2022 15:17:19 GMT -5
It sucks to hear that Santana and Ortiz are not on good terms.
Friends falling out like that is a story that always hits me in the gut. Life is way too short to shun your friends over things that don’t matter.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 20, 2022 15:35:53 GMT -5
It sucks to hear that Santana and Ortiz are not on good terms. Friends falling out like that is a story that always hits me in the gut. Life is way too short to shun your friends over things that don’t matter. Ortiz clearly wants/wanted the team to stay together going by that recent Instagram post, but Santana's definitely had other plans for a while now. |
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jul 20, 2022 15:49:31 GMT -5
IF Santana & Ortiz are truly done as a team….combine that with this weeks shocker that Desus & Mero had a falling out and split up and you’ve got one Hell of a shitty week for NYC
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Post by markymark on Oct 18, 2022 12:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by defectiveepitaph on Oct 18, 2022 12:35:30 GMT -5
I thought he’d already left tbh. |
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Post by Facetious on Oct 18, 2022 12:37:15 GMT -5
Not shocking. He seemed checked out for a while before the injury.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 18, 2022 12:51:50 GMT -5
I can see some truth to this. Santana had started taking a lot of singles bookings in the last year before his injury and saw a future as a singles wrestler where Ortiz always basically felt the Impact run was as high as his wrestling career would go so everything since is gravy to him |
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