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Post by Facetious on Oct 15, 2022 1:19:55 GMT -5
This movie made me like Kills. The first half was such a drag
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 1:48:47 GMT -5
The first 45 minutes felt like a lifetime movie...This seriously was like watching surreal fan fiction to me. I don't even know how to process this
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Post by ppl591 on Oct 15, 2022 2:29:46 GMT -5
After a second watch I can honestly say I hated this movie. It's on pat with the RZ movies for me. The whole Corey angle was garbage. Everything I felt like they built up in kills wasn't followed up on at all. It felt like the myers home would have some kind of significance. And michael was built up like a cross between Lesnar at summerslam 14 and current reigns in kills and was just a pathetic bitch in this one. Very disappointed.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 15, 2022 6:48:56 GMT -5
After a second watch I can honestly say I hated this movie. It's on pat with the RZ movies for me. The whole Corey angle was garbage. Everything I felt like they built up in kills wasn't followed up on at all. It felt like the myers home would have some kind of significance. And michael was built up like a cross between Lesnar at summerslam 14 and current reigns in kills and was just a pathetic bitch in this one. Very disappointed. Yea... I'm not sure what the deal was with Micheal in this one. Kills pretty much sets him up as Supernatural. This one seems to be leaning the way at first... then it doesn't. Feels like they had 2 movies worth of ideas but a only had a contract for 3 movies, instead of 4.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2022 7:27:48 GMT -5
I really just didn’t like it.
I know what they were going for but I’m so sick and tired of moderately talented writers cramming in clumsy allegories for Trump into everything. This was no exception. It was so slow to get going and then when it did, it ended.
I got real Rise of Skywalker vibes from the movie where it was clear no one really had a plan and didn’t expect the reaction to the second film so they just threw a bunch of stuff in hoping that something would click
Credit where its due. I think the actor who played Corey was very good. If they had him in the movies from the start and built out his character arc, you really could’ve had something. But as is, he feels rushed and crowbarred into the story. I know DGG says shit like “Radicalization of young boys” but any kind of set up would’ve been nice for a trilogy that was supposedly planned this way from the start
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Post by tntchamp on Oct 15, 2022 8:20:12 GMT -5
Absolutely despise this movie. I admire the obvious ambition they're going for but it just doesn't work. This movie focuses on the wrong thing. In hindsight Halloween 2018 should have been a one and done sequel like it originally was supposed to be. I won't say this is the worst Halloween movie if only because Halloween Resurrection exists but this is definitely very bottom of the barrel. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The ending is so disspointing and lame. The final battle feels more like a case of "Oh and here's the fight between Laurie and Michael btw". It feels so anticlamtic after the build. I get in theory what they are going for with the whole "Michael is by the end of the day just a human and not the boogeyman like people think he is" thing. Except that doesn't work when Kills had Michael surviving multiple gun shots and beat downs and stabbings. Likewise Michael in the last movie could fight off a whole mob of people but now can't handle one normal size guy and gets easily overpowered by him. The movie is just not that good at all and when it comes to final Laurie vs Michael battles, I think H20 is far better.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2022 9:25:15 GMT -5
Absolutely despise this movie. I admire the obvious ambition they're going for but it just doesn't work. This movie focuses on the wrong thing. In hindsight Halloween 2018 should have been a one and done sequel like it originally was supposed to be. I won't say this is the worst Halloween movie if only because Halloween Resurrection exists but this is definitely very bottom of the barrel. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The ending is so disspointing and lame. The final battle feels more like a case of "Oh and here's the fight between Laurie and Michael btw". It feels so anticlamtic after the build. I get in theory what they are going for with the whole "Michael is by the end of the day just a human and not the boogeyman like people think he is" thing. Except that doesn't work when Kills had Michael surviving multiple gun shots and beat downs and stabbings. Likewise Michael in the last movie could fight off a whole mob of people but now can't handle one normal size guy and gets easily overpowered by him. The movie is just not that good at all and when it comes to finally Laurie vs Michael battles, I think H20 is far better. This’ll get me some heat but atleast Resurrection is so stupid and dumb that it can be laughed at. This one is just kinda boring and insulting
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Oct 15, 2022 9:26:15 GMT -5
Absolutely despise this movie. I admire the obvious ambition they're going for but it just doesn't work. This movie focuses on the wrong thing. In hindsight Halloween 2018 should have been a one and done sequel like it originally was supposed to be. I won't say this is the worst Halloween movie if only because Halloween Resurrection exists but this is definitely very bottom of the barrel. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The ending is so disspointing and lame. The final battle feels more like a case of "Oh and here's the fight between Laurie and Michael btw". It feels so anticlamtic after the build. I get in theory what they are going for with the whole "Michael is by the end of the day just a human and not the boogeyman like people think he is" thing. Except that doesn't work when Kills had Michael surviving multiple gun shots and beat downs and stabbings. Likewise Michael in the last movie could fight off a whole mob of people but now can't handle one normal size guy and gets easily overpowered by him. The movie is just not that good at all and when it comes to finally Laurie vs Michael battles, I think H20 is far better. The final fight in H20 & even 2018 is way better.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 15, 2022 9:42:59 GMT -5
Absolutely despise this movie. I admire the obvious ambition they're going for but it just doesn't work. This movie focuses on the wrong thing. In hindsight Halloween 2018 should have been a one and done sequel like it originally was supposed to be. I won't say this is the worst Halloween movie if only because Halloween Resurrection exists but this is definitely very bottom of the barrel. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The ending is so disspointing and lame. The final battle feels more like a case of "Oh and here's the fight between Laurie and Michael btw". It feels so anticlamtic after the build. I get in theory what they are going for with the whole "Michael is by the end of the day just a human and not the boogeyman like people think he is" thing. Except that doesn't work when Kills had Michael surviving multiple gun shots and beat downs and stabbings. Likewise Michael in the last movie could fight off a whole mob of people but now can't handle one normal size guy and gets easily overpowered by him. The movie is just not that good at all and when it comes to finally Laurie vs Michael battles, I think H20 is far better. This’ll get me some heat but atleast Resurrection is so stupid and dumb that it can be laughed at. Imagine if Resurrection went full found footage and the party scenes filmed from a video camera someone brought over and the movie doubles as a proto Project X
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Post by Breadville on Oct 15, 2022 9:59:54 GMT -5
I thought this was really, really, really bad. There's just not much to like about it. Like others have said, it makes 'Kills' look like a good movie, which says a lot. Having watched all three, I feel like it's obvious that 2018 Halloween was supposed to be Carpenter's ending, but it made money, so the sequels had to come.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2022 10:17:01 GMT -5
This’ll get me some heat but atleast Resurrection is so stupid and dumb that it can be laughed at. Imagine if Resurrection went full found footage and the party scenes filmed from a video camera someone brought over and the movie doubles as a proto Project X Man. I know found footage is a bad word among a lot of horror fans but that proposed found footage friday the 13th sounded like the injection that franchise needed. It really feels like they just came up with shit randomly. In 2018 they sell that Michael is back to basics without any of the cartoonish supernatural stuff. Then you get to this one and {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}There’s literally a scene where he kills a guy and it replenishes his stamina bar like he’s a video game
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 15, 2022 10:22:31 GMT -5
I thought this was really, really, really bad. There's just not much to like about it. Like others have said, it makes 'Kills' look like a good movie, which says a lot. Having watched all three, I feel like it's obvious that 2018 Halloween was supposed to be Carpenter's ending, but it made money, so the sequels had to come. I can only guess what will happen if and when this makes money. Though...here's what I think. I actually LIKED the Corey angle...and it would have made sense...in its own story. Had H3:SOTW made money and they did do the anthology, I can see it being a Halloween IV. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Someone who accidentally killed people, gets harassed for doing so, then somehow becomes a real villain...it's a solid idea. But he got killed. Like I alluded to, if and when HE warrants making more movies...who gets to be the new killer?
As for that moment when Michael seems to mind meld with Corey...what was that about? One of the faults of keeping Myers around so long...like I said before, they tried to make him Jason-like with invincibility and super powers. Actually, the venom HE is getting reminds me that Halloween fans haven't changed in 40 years. "No Myers? No Halloween!" and all. Only thing is, like we saw with H3's failure and the clinging to the Myers story...how would you keep it fresh for the final confrontation? And even if I totally hated it, in a world where Resurrection and the Zombie films exist, I can't call it worst ever. Maybe 6 theatrical too. (4 and 5 I give a slight pass to because of Pleasance and Michael being back was still fresh)
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Post by tntchamp on Oct 15, 2022 10:49:06 GMT -5
Absolutely despise this movie. I admire the obvious ambition they're going for but it just doesn't work. This movie focuses on the wrong thing. In hindsight Halloween 2018 should have been a one and done sequel like it originally was supposed to be. I won't say this is the worst Halloween movie if only because Halloween Resurrection exists but this is definitely very bottom of the barrel. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The ending is so disspointing and lame. The final battle feels more like a case of "Oh and here's the fight between Laurie and Michael btw". It feels so anticlamtic after the build. I get in theory what they are going for with the whole "Michael is by the end of the day just a human and not the boogeyman like people think he is" thing. Except that doesn't work when Kills had Michael surviving multiple gun shots and beat downs and stabbings. Likewise Michael in the last movie could fight off a whole mob of people but now can't handle one normal size guy and gets easily overpowered by him. The movie is just not that good at all and when it comes to finally Laurie vs Michael battles, I think H20 is far better. The final fight in H20 & even 2018 is way better. For sure. Both of those had a exciting sense of a big scale fight to the death feel. The one in Ends feels like someone was told to quickly write one in there and said person was just trying to wrap it up like some kid that is putting no effort into his homework project. Imagine if Resurrection went full found footage and the party scenes filmed from a video camera someone brought over and the movie doubles as a proto Project X Man. I know found footage is a bad word among a lot of horror fans but that proposed found footage friday the 13th sounded like the injection that franchise needed. It really feels like they just came up with shit randomly. In 2018 they sell that Michael is back to basics without any of the cartoonish supernatural stuff. Then you get to this one and {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}There’s literally a scene where he kills a guy and it replenishes his stamina bar like he’s a video game That is my gripe too with Ends is that it wants to go back to basics approach with Michael and the whole "still just a man thing" but compared to Michael is in Kills and even a couple of scenes in Ends such as the mentioned scene you brought up, just make it instead come off like it is horribly inconsistent and like they couldn't make up their mind with Michael. Somehow I doubt if I rewatch all three of Green's movies would it actually come off with what he was going for with Ends.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 15, 2022 10:50:37 GMT -5
Imagine if Resurrection went full found footage and the party scenes filmed from a video camera someone brought over and the movie doubles as a proto Project X Man. I know found footage is a bad word among a lot of horror fans but that proposed found footage friday the 13th sounded like the injection that franchise needed. If they would go that route I say make it more like The Poughkeepsie Tapes with some talking heads debating if any supernatural influence is involved.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2022 10:51:40 GMT -5
Man. I know found footage is a bad word among a lot of horror fans but that proposed found footage friday the 13th sounded like the injection that franchise needed. If they would go that route I say make it more like The Poughkeepsie Tapes with some talking heads debating if any supernatural influence is involved. I’d be so down for a faux true crime documentary movie about Jason Voorhees.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 15, 2022 10:59:08 GMT -5
I don't outright hate this film, I just think it had would could been interesting ideas in a movie if you didn't already feature Laurie so that just makes it a bad movie trying to cram everything together
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Post by King Boo on Oct 15, 2022 11:36:07 GMT -5
I thought this was really, really, really bad. There's just not much to like about it. Like others have said, it makes 'Kills' look like a good movie, which says a lot. Having watched all three, I feel like it's obvious that 2018 Halloween was supposed to be Carpenter's ending, but it made money, so the sequels had to come. I can only guess what will happen if and when this makes money. Though...here's what I think. I actually LIKED the Corey angle...and it would have made sense...in its own story. Had H3:SOTW made money and they did do the anthology, I can see it being a Halloween IV. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Someone who accidentally killed people, gets harassed for doing so, then somehow becomes a real villain...it's a solid idea. But he got killed. Like I alluded to, if and when HE warrants making more movies...who gets to be the new killer?
As for that moment when Michael seems to mind meld with Corey...what was that about? One of the faults of keeping Myers around so long...like I said before, they tried to make him Jason-like with invincibility and super powers. Actually, the venom HE is getting reminds me that Halloween fans haven't changed in 40 years. "No Myers? No Halloween!" and all. Only thing is, like we saw with H3's failure and the clinging to the Myers story...how would you keep it fresh for the final confrontation? And even if I totally hated it, in a world where Resurrection and the Zombie films exist, I can't call it worst ever. Maybe 6 theatrical too. (4 and 5 I give a slight pass to because of Pleasance and Michael being back was still fresh) There's a little bit of a false comparison fallacy going on here, even if I understand why the comparison is being made. Season of the Witch's timing was an argument against it in 1982, but is an argument for it in 2022. Personally, I think Carpenter had the right idea in making Halloween an anthology series; the "sin" here was that it was one chapter too late while also being really close on the heels of Halloween II to be able to establish that in the minds of the audience. The mistake was made with Season of the Witch when they decided to make another Michael Myers story first. SOTW was behind the eight ball from the jump. At the same time, the story preceding it was only two chapters deep, with a conclusion that was clearly meant to be final. There wasn't all the history of the series, with all of its starts and stops and canon changes, yet. A change in focus that early on is really a positive for the movie in retrospect (or maybe for some forward thinkers at the time. I wouldn't know, I was born that November.) So not only did it not have all the decades of history before it that Halloween Ends had, it also never once touted itself as being a conclusion to anything. It certainly wasn't building on what came before it, either. The entire point of Halloween Ends, I thought, was to conclude a 40+ year rivalry between one of the biggest horror icons and one of the best final girls of all time. That was what they sold in big, bold letters to everyone. To then turn around and literally hide Michael for 90% of the movie, instead focusing on a character we just met for the first time and have no real reason to care about at the end of this epic story... yeah, you're going to get people annoyed that Michael Myers was basically non-existent in a Halloween movie. If they wanted to do a story like the one we got in Halloween Ends, it needed to not be the last movie in a trilogy, nor titled Halloween Ends. A lot of us were sitting there waiting for a conclusion to a story we've cared about, but got an introduction to and quick race through one we didn't ask for instead. Outside of the criminally short fight towards the very end, this movie had nothing to do with Michael vs. Laurie ending. In the case of SOTW, being let down by a lack of Michael Myers was kind of self-inflicted; in Halloween Ends, complaining about a complete lack of Michael Myers is more than justified. That one is all on the filmmakers.
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Post by Facetious on Oct 15, 2022 11:37:09 GMT -5
I really just didn’t like it. I know what they were going for but I’m so sick and tired of moderately talented writers cramming in clumsy allegories for Trump into everything. This was no exception. It was so slow to get going and then when it did, it ended. I got real Rise of Skywalker vibes from the movie where it was clear no one really had a plan and didn’t expect the reaction to the second film so they just threw a bunch of stuff in hoping that something would click Credit where its due. I think the actor who played Corey was very good. If they had him in the movies from the start and built out his character arc, you really could’ve had something. But as is, he feels rushed and crowbarred into the story. I know DGG says shit like “Radicalization of young boys” but any kind of set up would’ve been nice for a trilogy that was supposedly planned this way from the start The ROS comparison is so spot on lmao.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2022 11:43:12 GMT -5
Yeahhhh I don’t get the whole “oh it’s an homage to season of the witch that it barely has any Michael in it”
If they were planning on that, they shouldn’t have announced the movie as the conclusion to a 40 year story and promoted it with Michael Myers front and center in everything.
But maybe that was their goal? I don’t know. JLC and Green were promoting the movie bragging that it’s going to piss people off. Cool? Great?
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Post by ace on Oct 15, 2022 12:07:26 GMT -5
Did anyone else get Psycho II vibes from the story? Not overtly dealing with character specifics…more the central question of Psycho II. Will society ever allow you to be anything other than what it labels you?
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