Convoy
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Post by Convoy on Jun 10, 2023 11:55:38 GMT -5
Prior to the shutdown I heard stories from various women that worked in/around the promotion (Yolanda, Wiggy, Jenna) that I wish would leave my brain. That place used to be my favorite American promotion, but now I can’t even watch old stuff. SpeakingOut didn’t even put all the stories out there, and while they aren’t mine to tell, some stuff haunts me to the point that I fast-forward through big portions of weekly AEW TV.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Jun 10, 2023 12:16:54 GMT -5
Quack because they didn't want to wear masks The infamous ones are Saturyne/Hania the Howling Huntress. I think she was actually a CHIKARA trainee. The second the angled shutdown started she unmasked and went on record that she'd always hated wearing one. Sylverhawk wanted to drop his mask because he was starting to get recognition as Wheeler Yuta. Quack said no so Yuta left and Sylverhawk was killed off. Considering where Yuta is now it seems he made the right call. Wani was Kai Katana. As I understand, he didn't know he was going to be forced to wear a mask until he signed. He didn't want to, Quack wouldn't cooperate, so Kai just did his work as well as possible until he'd fufilled his dates and then never went back. Blanche Babish/Skylar Marie wasn't even wearing a mask but still wasn't allowed to link her two characters, which she really didn't like.
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Post by Hernan on Jun 10, 2023 12:40:26 GMT -5
Quack because they didn't want to wear masks The infamous ones are Saturyne/Hania the Howling Huntress. I think she was actually a CHIKARA trainee. The second the angled shutdown started she unmasked and went on record that she'd always hated wearing one. Sylverhawk wanted to drop his mask because he was starting to get recognition as Wheeler Yuta. Quack said no so Yuta left and Sylverhawk was killed off. Considering where Yuta is now it seems he made the right call. Wani was Kai Katana. As I understand, he didn't know he was going to be forced to wear a mask until he signed. He didn't want to, Quack wouldn't cooperate, so Kai just did his work as well as possible until he'd fufilled his dates and then never went back. Blanche Babish/Skylar Marie wasn't even wearing a mask but still wasn't allowed to link her two characters, which she really didn't like. Definitely sounds like corporate CMLL/AAA thing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 10, 2023 17:23:46 GMT -5
Semi related but there were quite a few wrestlers who actually had falling outs with Quack because they didn't want to wear masks I know for a stone cold fact Jonathan Gresham was one. He DMed me personally, and told me not to tag him in Hieracon pics Gresham has always had his quirks but I can't even blame him for that one lol
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Jun 10, 2023 19:49:54 GMT -5
I know for a stone cold fact Jonathan Gresham was one. He DMed me personally, and told me not to tag him in Hieracon pics Gresham has always had his quirks but I can't even blame him for that one lol Yep. I know him through the WWA4 school, and went up to him after an early ROH show of his with an Ice Cream Jr. mask. The first thing he said to me? "You know I f***ing hate Chikara, man".
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 10, 2023 20:29:53 GMT -5
All that said, Gresham put zero effort into the gimmick at all. Like he didn't even try.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 11, 2023 0:52:01 GMT -5
All that said, Gresham put zero effort into the gimmick at all. Like he didn't even try. He outwardly loathed it. Got pics with him at a show and he legitimately just gave off a bored/didn't want to be there energy I get if you hate the gimmick but I do think that's a shit thing to do for fans and kids, everyone else at CHIKARA never had a problem taking time out to talk to fans or take pictures/be very cool people, have nothing but pleasant convos and memories with everyone else, including Joshi and Japanese talent who barely spoke english lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 11, 2023 0:54:04 GMT -5
He DMed me personally, and told me not to tag him in Hieracon pics Gresham has always had his quirks but I can't even blame him for that one lol Yep. I know him through the WWA4 school, and went up to him after an early ROH show of his with an Ice Cream Jr. mask. The first thing he said to me? "You know I f***ing hate Chikara, man". The bitter irony is CHIKARA was A LOT of peoples first ever exposure to the guy, so I imagine that's also why he really hated wearing a mask There's also some sort of irony that he now wears that giant Cthulu Mask to the ring for his entrances lol
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Post by Hernan on Jun 11, 2023 1:06:51 GMT -5
Yep. I know him through the WWA4 school, and went up to him after an early ROH show of his with an Ice Cream Jr. mask. The first thing he said to me? "You know I f***ing hate Chikara, man". The bitter irony is CHIKARA was A LOT of peoples first ever exposure to the guy, so I imagine that's also why he really hated wearing a mask There's also some sort of irony that he now wears that giant Cthulu Mask to the ring for his entrances lol I think it's more of "what I want to wear" than "what they want me to wear".
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Jun 11, 2023 1:16:32 GMT -5
Something that's really weird about Hieracon is he is, as far as I remember, the one and only person who got a 'hey let's give this guy a mask and gimmick' angle instead of just bringing them in masked and gimmicked. Given what we know about Quack and Gresham respectively, I'm amazed Quack allowed it and I wonder how much of a fit Gresham threw to get Quack to agree to it.
Gresham also had terrible chemistry with Ophidian and Amasis. He might've been a better worker than Escorpion Egipcio, but at least EE fit in well with the heel Portal.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 11, 2023 1:32:37 GMT -5
The bitter irony is CHIKARA was A LOT of peoples first ever exposure to the guy, so I imagine that's also why he really hated wearing a mask There's also some sort of irony that he now wears that giant Cthulu Mask to the ring for his entrances lol I think it's more of "what I want to wear" than "what they want me to wear". Oh it absolutely was, he just didnt want to be a part of what he was put into, and he wasn't the only one in the end
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Jun 11, 2023 1:39:45 GMT -5
Something that's really weird about Hieracon is he is, as far as I remember, the one and only person who got a 'hey let's give this guy a mask and gimmick' angle instead of just bringing them in masked and gimmicked. Given what we know about Quack and Gresham respectively, I'm amazed Quack allowed it and I wonder how much of a fit Gresham threw to get Quack to agree to it. Gresham also had terrible chemistry with Ophidian and Amasis. He might've been a better worker than Escorpion Egipcio, but at least EE fit in well with the heel Portal. Given what I know about the guy Gresham was back then....I bet it was a hell of a fit. I like the guy, but he had anger issues back then.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 11, 2023 10:05:26 GMT -5
Something that's really weird about Hieracon is he is, as far as I remember, the one and only person who got a 'hey let's give this guy a mask and gimmick' angle instead of just bringing them in masked and gimmicked. Given what we know about Quack and Gresham respectively, I'm amazed Quack allowed it and I wonder how much of a fit Gresham threw to get Quack to agree to it. Gresham also had terrible chemistry with Ophidian and Amasis. He might've been a better worker than Escorpion Egipcio, but at least EE fit in well with the heel Portal. Given what I know about the guy Gresham was back then....I bet it was a hell of a fit. I like the guy, but he had anger issues back then. He did as recently as last year. Not just with the ROH/Tony Khan stuff but just look at how he and Jordynne Grace acted with TERMINUS. But yeah Gresham with the Portal was always weird at least back then. He just didn't have the charisma to even touch Ophidian and Amasis... speaking of Ophidian. I ran into him and his wife shooting some stuff in Philly (yes he was wearing a mask). Said getting away from wrestling allowed him to deal with a lot of anger and mental health issues he had been ignoring and that he's in a very healthy place now.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jun 11, 2023 15:47:36 GMT -5
Wani was Kai Katana. As I understand, he didn't know he was going to be forced to wear a mask until he signed. He didn't want to, Quack wouldn't cooperate, so Kai just did his work as well as possible until he'd fufilled his dates and then never went back. As frustrating as a story this is, and as much as I'm loath to bring up the other guy, I'm a little on Quack's side with this one, just because it gave us a tag team called Juan y Wani.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Jun 11, 2023 15:49:21 GMT -5
The only problem with Juan y Wani was that it had Juan Francisco de Boringnado in it.
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Post by mattyy on Jun 12, 2023 7:00:07 GMT -5
did anyone else see that Quack uploaded a "Til We Make It" video the other day about young indie wrestlers needing to know what "the look" is?
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Post by chazraps on Jun 12, 2023 14:05:57 GMT -5
Holy shit, Quack is still running the Wrestle Factory and teaching students in 2023. Gadzooks.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 12, 2023 15:38:24 GMT -5
did anyone else see that Quack uploaded a "Til We Make It" video the other day about young indie wrestlers needing to know what "the look" is? Does "the look" involve cheap lucha masks that impair vision and breathing abilities??
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Post by mattyy on Jun 12, 2023 16:11:56 GMT -5
did anyone else see that Quack uploaded a "Til We Make It" video the other day about young indie wrestlers needing to know what "the look" is? Does "the look" involve cheap lucha masks that impair vision and breathing abilities?? i got about thirty seconds in before i had to shut it off. i was like, there is no way this dude thinks he's back.
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Post by Hernan on Jun 12, 2023 17:52:38 GMT -5
did anyone else see that Quack uploaded a "Til We Make It" video the other day about young indie wrestlers needing to know what "the look" is? I prefer to avoid any TWMI videos the moment I saw a title of a video from that channel saying "NFT are the future of pro wrestling". I shut down the laptop and call it a day.
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