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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 3, 2024 1:29:55 GMT -5
Seems fairly likely that, given she didn't feel Lacey was on her level and was unhappy about working with her, she didn't want to sell for her. Maybe she was clocked too, but I'm sure she's been legit hurt before and kept working.
One of those situations where both sides were probably in the right.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2024 2:45:54 GMT -5
I feel like Becky / Lacey were a one-off while she was also facing Charlotte that would've been one thing, but then it kept going for like three more months for no apparent reason.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 3, 2024 5:09:15 GMT -5
a lot of Becky's post mania stuff didn't work and a lot of her management is holding me back because they like you fell flat because well outside of getting a title shot they didn't really ever show Lacey getting any preferential treatment... (and then she said it to Bayley at one point and that's just like... what?) I think Becky just resorts to that stuff by default at this point because she knows how successful it was against Charlotte, regardless of whether it even applies to the person she's feuding with. She's even trying to apply it to Rhea in their current feud, ignoring that there was a time when Rhea was getting 2-4 minutes TV time a week and tagging with Nikki A.S.H.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 3, 2024 12:08:56 GMT -5
Carmella confirms Becky's story about how she was going to be blindsided by Becky's surprise return without Becky giving her a heads up first:
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 3, 2024 13:23:02 GMT -5
I dunno, there's no excuse for not selling your opponent's finisher imo, that's like HBK mid 90s behaviour. Whether they "deserve" the push or whatever is irrelevant.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 3, 2024 13:29:45 GMT -5
I get Becky's point of view and for the most part I agree. But that is still a dick move to just no sell someone just because she saw Lacey as not deserving of the spot she was getting. Looking at the actual text, she says she didn’t sell it because she got popped with it for real, so her body went autopilot and went with the natural instinct of trying to get rebalanced to stop the fall, not to actively fall to sell the move. And "being so green she legitimately punched the top star in the division in the face" is a damn good reason to not want to have a program with someone
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Apr 3, 2024 15:04:10 GMT -5
One side of my brain is telling me that Becky selling the punch like planned would have been the right thing to do, but the other is filled with memories of WWE absolutely waterboarding me with Lacey Evans in 2019 and just thinking about how miserable this would have been to actually watch.
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Post by Display Name on Apr 3, 2024 16:54:20 GMT -5
Carmella confirms Becky's story about how she was going to be blindsided by Becky's surprise return without Becky giving her a heads up first:
Can somebody give me context?
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Apr 3, 2024 17:03:47 GMT -5
Carmella confirms Becky's story about how she was going to be blindsided by Becky's surprise return without Becky giving her a heads up first:
Can somebody give me context? Summerslam 2021 - Becky's surprise return, replacing Carmella who was replacing Sasha.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 3, 2024 17:25:55 GMT -5
I just found this thread and legitimately laughed out loud at Ronda's mom not talking to her if she tapped out in a wrestling match.
It was fine to still talk to her when she got her ass kicked for real but when she's acting, it's a problem?
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Post by tenshi on Apr 3, 2024 17:33:19 GMT -5
I just found this thread and legitimately laughed out loud at Ronda's mom not talking to her if she tapped out in a wrestling match. It was fine to still talk to her when she got her ass kicked for real but when she's acting, it's a problem? This is a friendly reminder that Ronda's mom used to jump Ronda at random and put her in armbars since she was 8 so... yeah...
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 3, 2024 17:41:57 GMT -5
With Becky having finally won the big one at Mania and (kayfabe) overcame the company preferred stars, after that what she needed was a strong counterweight to her tough confidence that could take her to the limit. Someone like a 2003 Victoria as the psychotic heel throwing her off her game. or a monstrous 2007 Awesome Kong far beyond anything Lynch had ever faced would have been the kind of strong heels that still allowed Lynch to be an underdog even as champion.
Instead, we got proper lady Lacey Evans in nice hats as her main opposition for the next four months.
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Post by eJm on Apr 3, 2024 17:54:23 GMT -5
With Becky having finally won the big one at Mania and (kayfabe) overcame the company preferred stars, after that what she needed was a strong counterweight to her tough confidence that could take her to the limit. Someone like a 2003 Victoria as the psychotic heel throwing her off her game. or a monstrous 2007 Awesome Kong far beyond anything Lynch had ever faced would have been the kind of strong heels that still allowed Lynch to be an underdog even as champion. Instead, we got proper lady Lacey Evans in nice hats as her main opposition for the next four months. I mean, at least Seth started well with a feud with AJ Styles for a month before moving onto *checks notes* Baron Corbin for three months in a row. Oh.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 3, 2024 18:02:47 GMT -5
With Becky having finally won the big one at Mania and (kayfabe) overcame the company preferred stars, after that what she needed was a strong counterweight to her tough confidence that could take her to the limit. Someone like a 2003 Victoria as the psychotic heel throwing her off her game. or a monstrous 2007 Awesome Kong far beyond anything Lynch had ever faced would have been the kind of strong heels that still allowed Lynch to be an underdog even as champion. Instead, we got proper lady Lacey Evans in nice hats as her main opposition for the next four months. It's weird because the whole Lacey thing seemed like it sort of traded-ish on the idea that she was another Vince's Favorite Blonde who was here to ruin Becky's push and given how little meat there was to the whole thing it really feels like that weird meta heat was the point. Tying it into the Seth relationship given their on-screen chemistry was pretty rough and their the whole thing felt like it was missing a reason for them to even join up meaningfully, it was all just such a weird story that did zero to keep her momentum moving beyond the fact she had momentum at all.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 3, 2024 18:12:48 GMT -5
With Becky having finally won the big one at Mania and (kayfabe) overcame the company preferred stars, after that what she needed was a strong counterweight to her tough confidence that could take her to the limit. Someone like a 2003 Victoria as the psychotic heel throwing her off her game. or a monstrous 2007 Awesome Kong far beyond anything Lynch had ever faced would have been the kind of strong heels that still allowed Lynch to be an underdog even as champion. Instead, we got proper lady Lacey Evans in nice hats as her main opposition for the next four months. It's weird because the whole Lacey thing seemed like it sort of traded-ish on the idea that she was another Vince's Favorite Blonde who was here to ruin Becky's push and given how little meat there was to the whole thing it really feels like that weird meta heat was the point. Tying it into the Seth relationship given their on-screen chemistry was pretty rough and their the whole thing felt like it was missing a reason for them to even join up meaningfully, it was all just such a weird story that did zero to keep her momentum moving beyond the fact she had momentum at all. And the thing is, Becky had her ultimate victory against the corporate choices at the biggest show of the year (albeit in a wonky ending). There was nowhere else to go with that sort of feud anymore and even if there was, it certainly wasn't immediately after. Lynch needed a different kind of challenge, either a technically gifted fighter she had to outthink, a crazy loon she needed to psych herself up for, or a monster that she would find herself having to survive against. She didn't really get any of them and her reign seemed to suffer for it.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 3, 2024 18:24:02 GMT -5
It's weird because the whole Lacey thing seemed like it sort of traded-ish on the idea that she was another Vince's Favorite Blonde who was here to ruin Becky's push and given how little meat there was to the whole thing it really feels like that weird meta heat was the point. Tying it into the Seth relationship given their on-screen chemistry was pretty rough and their the whole thing felt like it was missing a reason for them to even join up meaningfully, it was all just such a weird story that did zero to keep her momentum moving beyond the fact she had momentum at all. And the thing is, Becky had her ultimate victory against the corporate choices at the biggest show of the year (albeit in a wonky ending). There was nowhere else to go with that sort of feud anymore and even if there was, it certainly wasn't immediately after. Lynch needed a different kind of challenge, either a technically gifted fighter she had to outthink, a crazy loon she needed to psych herself up for, or a monster that she would find herself having to survive against. She didn't really get any of them and her reign seemed to suffer for it. It brings to mind them putting Danielson fresh off Mania 30 into a feud with Corporate Kane. It's like they don't really know what to do once they've had the underdog conquer so they just start rehashing the thing that sort of worked thematically but with a new opponent and it all kind of sucks.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 3, 2024 18:53:53 GMT -5
It's weird because the whole Lacey thing seemed like it sort of traded-ish on the idea that she was another Vince's Favorite Blonde who was here to ruin Becky's push and given how little meat there was to the whole thing it really feels like that weird meta heat was the point. Tying it into the Seth relationship given their on-screen chemistry was pretty rough and their the whole thing felt like it was missing a reason for them to even join up meaningfully, it was all just such a weird story that did zero to keep her momentum moving beyond the fact she had momentum at all. And the thing is, Becky had her ultimate victory against the corporate choices at the biggest show of the year (albeit in a wonky ending). There was nowhere else to go with that sort of feud anymore and even if there was, it certainly wasn't immediately after. Lynch needed a different kind of challenge, either a technically gifted fighter she had to outthink, a crazy loon she needed to psych herself up for, or a monster that she would find herself having to survive against. She didn't really get any of them and her reign seemed to suffer for it. the other part is... like after Mania the Corporation didn't try to do anything against Becky... It'd be like after Austin won the title Vince shrugged his shoulders and went home.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Apr 3, 2024 20:25:04 GMT -5
Man, her accent is all kinds of messed up. Nowhere near as bad as Drew, but jeepers. I think William Regal is the only guy who managed to get away without a nasty americanized accent. PAC mostly too but you can tell he's trying hard to be more comprehensible
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 4, 2024 3:12:49 GMT -5
With Becky having finally won the big one at Mania and (kayfabe) overcame the company preferred stars, after that what she needed was a strong counterweight to her tough confidence that could take her to the limit. Someone like a 2003 Victoria as the psychotic heel throwing her off her game. or a monstrous 2007 Awesome Kong far beyond anything Lynch had ever faced would have been the kind of strong heels that still allowed Lynch to be an underdog even as champion. Instead, we got proper lady Lacey Evans in nice hats as her main opposition for the next four months. I think having a brief feud as a bit of a "victory lap" would be okay, like she doesn't necessarily need the most credible opponents for the first one or two defenses in that situation, but they really did build basically no one to that spot, and even if Lacey sort of worked as a foil from a character standpoint, they did nothing to prepare her for that kind of a spot, either in the ring or out of it. There were only a handful of people with the credibility to plausibly beat her, and she had already beaten two of them at 'Mania.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 4, 2024 3:27:07 GMT -5
And the thing is, Becky had her ultimate victory against the corporate choices at the biggest show of the year (albeit in a wonky ending). There was nowhere else to go with that sort of feud anymore and even if there was, it certainly wasn't immediately after. Lynch needed a different kind of challenge, either a technically gifted fighter she had to outthink, a crazy loon she needed to psych herself up for, or a monster that she would find herself having to survive against. She didn't really get any of them and her reign seemed to suffer for it. the other part is... like after Mania the Corporation didn't try to do anything against Becky... It'd be like after Austin won the title Vince shrugged his shoulders and went home.
Yeah, Vince basically disappeared from the storyline after 'we need Charlotte Flair', and after resorting to the meta to troll fans, they didn't even really bother showing Charlotte's 'corporate' character save one two-minute promo on the next night's Smackdown. The most effort they put into Charlotte's characterisation after that was a 24/7 episode.
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