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Post by LuckyD 8402 on Nov 2, 2007 4:12:36 GMT -5
There are more people overreacting about the "pissed off fans" than there are actual people upset that he didn't appear. Sure, some people are disappointed that they haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I've not heard anyone say "I'M DONE WITH WWE FOREVER BECAUSE OF NO Y2JERICHOMG." Some people have simply said they are losing the excitement they once had with this angle, myself included.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 5:56:37 GMT -5
They didn't, but I recall reading several posts that said that on Monday night and Tuesday morning. Where exactly did you see these posts? A few in particular were in one of the "SAVE US.222" threads, where someone said in response to a comment about Vince not promising Jericho on his programs, and replied to with "Ah I see,bait and switch, got ya". So yes, it did happen if that's what you are inquiring about. And it's not just on this particular forum either, people seem to be getting upset over a short video that never once promised Jericho on any of their TV tapings or PPV's. If WWE wanted to switch it up and put someone else as the "SAVE US.222" guy, they'd be well within their rights to do so. To those who are upset about it, just enjoy the show and not spend so much time fixated on one little video. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 8:23:02 GMT -5
Where exactly did you see these posts? A few in particular were in one of the "SAVE US.222" threads, where someone said in response to a comment about Vince not promising Jericho on his programs, and replied to with "Ah I see,bait and switch, got ya". So yes, it did happen if that's what you are inquiring about. And it's not just on this particular forum either, people seem to be getting upset over a short video that never once promised Jericho on any of their TV tapings or PPV's. If WWE wanted to switch it up and put someone else as the "SAVE US.222" guy, they'd be well within their rights to do so. To those who are upset about it, just enjoy the show and not spend so much time fixated on one little video. Who exactly have you SEEN that has gotten upset over it? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 10:18:35 GMT -5
A few in particular were in one of the "SAVE US.222" threads, where someone said in response to a comment about Vince not promising Jericho on his programs, and replied to with "Ah I see,bait and switch, got ya". So yes, it did happen if that's what you are inquiring about. And it's not just on this particular forum either, people seem to be getting upset over a short video that never once promised Jericho on any of their TV tapings or PPV's. If WWE wanted to switch it up and put someone else as the "SAVE US.222" guy, they'd be well within their rights to do so. To those who are upset about it, just enjoy the show and not spend so much time fixated on one little video. Who exactly have you SEEN that has gotten upset over it? I didn't have to SEE anyone. Just reading the posts on the various forums are sufficent enough. Any other questions you'd like to ask me? |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 12:28:17 GMT -5
Who exactly have you SEEN that has gotten upset over it? I didn't have to SEE anyone. Just reading the posts on the various forums are sufficent enough. Any other questions you'd like to ask me? How come when an arena full of fans chants someone's name, it doesn't matter (ie that wrestler isn't necessarily over, the crowd is just "following along" as you say) but when a few people gripe on an internet message board, that does matter? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 12:31:48 GMT -5
I didn't have to SEE anyone. Just reading the posts on the various forums are sufficent enough. Any other questions you'd like to ask me? How come when an arena full of fans chants someone's name, it doesn't matter (ie that wrestler isn't necessarily over, the crowd is just "following along" as you say) but when a few people gripe on an internet message board, that does matter? Neither of those instances matters, it's up to WWE how they want to play this out. If they want to produce him next week or next month, that's up to them. Just because smarks online complain or a most people in an arena chant his name, WWE does not have to shoot their load and produce the guy quickly in a panic as they are not under any obligation to do so. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 13:13:36 GMT -5
How come when an arena full of fans chants someone's name, it doesn't matter (ie that wrestler isn't necessarily over, the crowd is just "following along" as you say) but when a few people gripe on an internet message board, that does matter? Neither of those instances matters, it's up to WWE how they want to play this out. If they want to produce him next week or next month, that's up to them. Just because smarks online complain or a most people in an arena chant his name, WWE does not have to shoot their load and produce the guy quickly in a panic as they are not under any obligation to do so. Why would the WWE not want to make money by giving the fans what they want? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 14:31:46 GMT -5
Neither of those instances matters, it's up to WWE how they want to play this out. If they want to produce him next week or next month, that's up to them. Just because smarks online complain or a most people in an arena chant his name, WWE does not have to shoot their load and produce the guy quickly in a panic as they are not under any obligation to do so. Why would the WWE not want to make money by giving the fans what they want? I'm sure they do, but they don't have to panic and suddenly produce Jericho because an arena full of people chant his name or smarks online complain about their predictions being wrong. They're still going to make plenty of money regardless of whether Jericho appears or not. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 15:23:19 GMT -5
Why would the WWE not want to make money by giving the fans what they want? I'm sure they do, but they don't have to panic and suddenly produce Jericho because an arena full of people chant his name or smarks online complain about their predictions being wrong. They're still going to make plenty of money regardless of whether Jericho appears or not. Who says they're panicking? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 15:25:49 GMT -5
I'm sure they do, but they don't have to panic and suddenly produce Jericho because an arena full of people chant his name or smarks online complain about their predictions being wrong. They're still going to make plenty of money regardless of whether Jericho appears or not. Who says they're panicking? No one, just making a point about how WWE does not have to rush this, if they want to play this out for another month or so, that's up to them. People will still watch and mark like crazy whenever they decide to produce Jericho. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 2, 2007 16:12:19 GMT -5
Only thing I'll say is that stuff like this is part of the reason why I don't have patience for WWE writing.
It's not about Jericho, and it's not about the actual promo. It's that they're still basically living in the past when it comes to "what can we do to bump ratings?"
The Internet has changed everything. Even in 1999, it wasn't anywhere near as widespread and readily available at broadband speeds as it was in, say, 2003-2004. Today it's even bigger. To bank on popping ratings by doing these "surprise!" things isn't the way to go.
Surprises are good. They're fun, and when executed properly, they can make for amazing storylines.
But there's nothing too shocking about this whole thing. We know it's Jericho, no need to go for the big tease at this point.
The days of shocking your audience with a guy who's "jumped ship", or "randomly appeared" or something, are long over. Deal with it and try to garner ratings/attention/positive feedback by building a stronger show.
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Post by erik316wttn on Nov 2, 2007 16:14:07 GMT -5
Only thing I'll say is that stuff like this is part of the reason why I don't have patience for WWE writing. It's not about Jericho, and it's not about the actual promo. It's that they're still basically living in the past when it comes to "what can we do to bump ratings?" The Internet has changed everything. Even in 1999, it wasn't anywhere near as widespread and readily available at broadband speeds as it was in, say, 2003-2004. Today it's even bigger. To bank on popping ratings by doing these "surprise!" things isn't the way to go. Surprises are good. They're fun, and when executed properly, they can make for amazing storylines. But there's nothing too shocking about this whole thing. We know it's Jericho, no need to go for the big tease at this point. The days of shocking your audience with a guy who's "jumped ship", or "randomly appeared" or something, are long over. Deal with it and try to garner ratings/attention/positive feedback by building a stronger show. Unfortunately it seems WWE is lagging about five years behind in these matters. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 2, 2007 17:06:37 GMT -5
Only thing I'll say is that stuff like this is part of the reason why I don't have patience for WWE writing. It's not about Jericho, and it's not about the actual promo. It's that they're still basically living in the past when it comes to "what can we do to bump ratings?" The Internet has changed everything. Even in 1999, it wasn't anywhere near as widespread and readily available at broadband speeds as it was in, say, 2003-2004. Today it's even bigger. To bank on popping ratings by doing these "surprise!" things isn't the way to go. Surprises are good. They're fun, and when executed properly, they can make for amazing storylines. But there's nothing too shocking about this whole thing. We know it's Jericho, no need to go for the big tease at this point. The days of shocking your audience with a guy who's "jumped ship", or "randomly appeared" or something, are long over. Deal with it and try to garner ratings/attention/positive feedback by building a stronger show. Unfortunately it seems WWE is lagging about five years behind in these matters. In a strange way, I think the way to look forward now is kind of by looking backwards. The in-ring style has to evolve, but classic booking tactics can still be as effective today as they were in yesteryear, and its a wonder why WWE doesn't seem to utilize some of them more often and more effectively. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 19:07:19 GMT -5
Who says they're panicking? No one, just making a point about how WWE does not have to rush this, if they want to play this out for another month or so, that's up to them. People will still watch and mark like crazy whenever they decide to produce Jericho. Why are you saying it's going to be Jericho now? How do you even know for sure Jericho is coming back? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 19:31:44 GMT -5
No one, just making a point about how WWE does not have to rush this, if they want to play this out for another month or so, that's up to them. People will still watch and mark like crazy whenever they decide to produce Jericho. Why are you saying it's going to be Jericho now? How do you even know for sure Jericho is coming back? It may, it may not be, who cares really at this point? If he shows up, great, if not, no big loss. It's not as if his presence is going to make WWE suddenly so much better anyways. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 19:34:30 GMT -5
Why are you saying it's going to be Jericho now? How do you even know for sure Jericho is coming back? It may, it may not be, who cares really at this point? If he shows up, great, if not, no big loss. Don't a lot of people care that Save_US=Jericho? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 19:37:50 GMT -5
It may, it may not be, who cares really at this point? If he shows up, great, if not, no big loss. Don't a lot of people care that Save_US=Jericho? They care about a video that might=Jericho. It seems to be him, but if WWE wanted to, they could put anyone in that role if they wished. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 19:43:01 GMT -5
Don't a lot of people care that Save_US=Jericho? They care about a video that might=Jericho. It seems to be him, but if WWE wanted to, they could put anyone in that role if they wished. Why would they? |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 19:43:38 GMT -5
They care about a video that might=Jericho. It seems to be him, but if WWE wanted to, they could put anyone in that role if they wished. Why would they? Because they can. Vince could do whatever he wants, that's why. |
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 2, 2007 19:45:44 GMT -5
Because they can. Vince could do whatever he wants, that's why. Why can't what Vince wants be what the fans want? |
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