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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 23:24:42 GMT -5
People will donate for the simple fact Reby Sky is hot. It's the same reason someone like Daffney can get thousands and thousands of dollars for her injuries but someone like Zema Ion cannot.
It's taking advantage of the fans but a lot of indy women's wrestlers do it these days and get tons of stuff from white knight wrestling fans.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 23:20:23 GMT -5
What's so horrible about the booking? Past the stable wars (Which has been boring lately but everyone loved earlier this year)
The beloved Junior Heavyweights are receiving pushes, Hogan's playing a supporting role in MEM Vs Aces and Eights at best...
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 22:24:13 GMT -5
One more match! One more match! Why would you wish such physical pain on Hogan? 0_0 He was fine after Hogan/Sting *Shrug*
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 21:52:49 GMT -5
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 21:39:17 GMT -5
Three straight years of hating? 2012. All I'm gonna say. Some quotes from 2012 Bound For Glory thread: Now to be fair, that thread is more positive than TNA 2010 but all the positive people have been driven out (Assumingly either left the board or just don't like TNA anymore and have left) whilst the negative people remain. I'm not trying to be a jerk at all or single anyone out but I just don't understand why people who hate watching something continue to do so week after week.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 21:29:24 GMT -5
- Recently released TNA Impact Wrestling star Jesse Sorensen posted a new tweet on his official Twitter account on Monday updating fans on the status of his neck. Sorensen wrote: “Just received amazing news from the MRI my neck is 100% & is not at risk of being re injured! Time to make this dream really come true!” For some reason, I don't quite believe him. I think it's his way of getting more booking in the indies. I think he'll get more regardless though because if he broke his neck again or hurt it again the indy company would take no blame because Sorensen had told them that his neck is fine and they have proof. I've heard Athletes, Doctors, Wrestlers etc say a broken neck never 100% heals though.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 21:20:16 GMT -5
LOL this is pathetic. Congrats Dixie, you really spotted a talent and made a star from that tattooed kid. Time to cash in on that. Ridiculous statement. If you were an indy promoter and 10 years ago you had CM Punk for a one off appearance you wouldn't try and shill that to try and make some money? If not, you're a terrible business person. As for Punk hating TNA. The dude should be grateful they gave him an opportunity in the first place he had been in the business for like 4 years at that point and got some great exposure from TNA. I guess it's like an Actor getting a small role on TV how often do you hear Actors badmouthing their first small part in a TV Show? Never. I certainly don't disagree with you but just something I feel is worth bringing up. I understand the frustration but at times, it gets directed to people who don't fall into that category. The people that make those kind of comments aren't even the majority anymore. Again, don't disagree with the general point you are making, just making an observation. I guess you're right however I feel like there's always at least one and mixed in with all the other jokes and discussion it just feels like it's a lot. There did used to be more of this and I agree it's got better lately but mixed in with all the thread locking, arguing and people going off topic in literally every thread this section still feels like it's full of flamers who either don't watch the current product or do watch the current product because they're self-loathing and need something to hate on. Last I'll say on the matter, I hate threads being mega-derailed and I'm totally being a part of it now To evidence the self loathing thing. If you check the posters in the TNA thread the three or four highest posters in the Impact threads are always the guys who seemingly hate TNA and have very little good to say. I was looking back at the opinions of TNA BFG 2010 a couple of days ago and those same people were the highest posters back in 2010 also. 3 years of just being negative and hating on a product, why continue to watch? Not to derail the thread, but I would like TNA to succeed. It would be great to see competition for WWE, but with TNA it's just not to be IMO. It's just that they have no top guy, they continue to book nonsensical stable storyline's, they continue to promote Hulk Hogan (even though he hasn't done anything substantial for TNA). Not to mention they sign Brooke Hogan when it's obvious she has no passion for wrestling. Who do they have they has a lot of potential to be a future top guy? Who do they have that's young enough to carry TNA to the future? TNA just will never go anywhere IMO, they'll always been the distant number two company in the US. They have tried EVERYTHING and not one thing has worked. Hell, they have the supposed "Babe Ruth of professional wrestling" Hulk Hogan and he still couldn't get them a substantial ratings boost. They singed Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Booker T, Mick Foley, Ken Anderson, Ric Flair, RVD, Chavo Guerrero, Kevin Nash and even Brooke Hogan (yeah, I'm joking on that one). And none of them have brought in any substantial rating's boost for the company. What sucks even more is that guy's like Roode, Storm, Styles and Daniels have wasted their careers in TNA and never really amounted to anything. Sure, they were given the top belt a few times, but where are they now? None of them are big stars or draws for that matter, their all just "there." Hell, they have no main draw, no top face that's a guaranteed money maker and mainstay main eventer. Sure, they build guys like Bobby Roode and Austin Aries up, but than their thrown to the waste side for Hulk Hogan's annual ego-trip. They chew these kid's career's up and they spit them out. And they'll never be able to work in front of a big crowd of 20,000 or more. They'll never have thousand's of people chanting their name or buying their merchandise. They have no Cena, no Austin, no Hogan. They have no top face, no central character. And I feel like that's the biggest problem of all. Professional wrestling is, in essence, a television show. With every television show, there is a min character the show is built around. The Simpson family, SpongeBob, The Griffins, Beavis and Butthead, Jerry Seinfeld, Frasier Crane (yeah, I don't watch much modern television). But, they all have one thing in common, their all central characters. With WWE, it's John Cena. The company is based around him and heels are built up to job to him in order to make him loo stronger. 1. You clearly don't watch the product. Top guys? Most of TNA's top guys are 30-35. The current World Heavyweight Champion is 31. Considering the shelf life of most wrestlers a guy like AJ Styles could be TNA's top guy still 10 years from now. Ditto for Aries, Roode etc. Everytime they try and push someone new (Sabin is a great example) people complain that he's too small, he's not Daniels, He only got his push because of his girlfriend etc etc etc 2. You state TNA will never go anywhere but compare 2002 with 2013. Hell, compare 2007 with 2013. TNA has even grown since 2010 although the TNA haters won't admit it but it has. As for the ratings gain, A quick google search will lead you to discover that the initial episode of TNA on Spike TV was a 0.8 TNA now averages about a 1.1 but can sometimes go as high as 1.3. That is growth. 3. You mean the same Roode, Storm, Styles and Daniels who would be wrestling in the independents today in front of 150 people if it wasn't for TNA? Without TNA you never have any of these guys on National TV. They all die down in the indies never to be seen again. You say TNA ruins careers I ask you how. You talk about Aries and Roode being thrown to the side but how? Aries and Roode are about to enter a main event feud. AJ Styles is being built as the guy to end Aces and Eights and Bad Influences have been receiving a steady Upper Midcard push for months now. None of them have been thrown to the waste side, as a matter of fact I can't think of a TNA World Champion who isn't still a main eventer to this day (If they are in the company) As for working in front of big crowds. Lockdown this year had 10,000. TNA Impact at Wembley had around the same. International House Shows draw over 5000 generally and their TV week to week is between 3-5 thousand. TNA Bound For Glory has already sold about 3000 tickets and we haven't even got an announced card or heavy advertising yet. I'm not saying TNA is on WWE's level but to say these guys don't have the chance to work in front of big crowds or a wide TV audience is asinine. 4. They have multiple top faces. Jeff Hardy is TNA's "Cena" he's just out of the main event scene for a little while because he just had a long run on top. Great post gnr123. To me TNA is like an indy promotion that just happens to have a lot of money to bring in bigger names like Bischoff and Hogan and they have a TV show. There are indy promotions nowadays that are just like TNA. There was one about a year ago that had Piper and Hogan on a show. Now there is one with Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Faarooq and Bradshaw, Hall and Nash. Now maybe TNA can afford big names throughout the year but it's still very similar in having the indy feel to it yet being able to bring in big names. I wouldn't even classify them as #2 promotion. Today it's only WWE whether it's good or bad. Being considered a #2 company should mean that they are competition of some sort and TNA isn't competition. The only way they could be considered competition is if Vince bought TNA (which he probably would feel would be beneath him) and did shows like Monday Night Wars and in this case it would be purely kayfabe. After reading your post I don't think you know what an indy promotion is. An indy promotion does not have International TV deals. An indy did a Supershow one time with a few massive names and they're suddenly on TNA's level? No. Yes how stupid of TNA to try and cash in on the biggest star in the business... I'm sure they made plenty of money from all those great classics he had in TNA. Like the one where... oh and the one against... in... Yeah didn't happened. I hope a Punk TNA DVD is in the making, a 3 DVD boxset like the Braden Walker WWE career retrospective. Some stars CM Punk worked with in TNA include: Shane Douglas, Vampiro, Kid Kash, Abyss, Raven, Sandman, Mikey Whipwreck, Terry Funk, James Mitchell, Sabu Some would say TNA gave CM Punk vital experience against some of the worlds best wrestlers and vital exposure which helped him get booked away from ROH. Does CM Punk still make it without TNA? I think so. Does he make it as quickly? I doubt it.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:33:13 GMT -5
I'm one of those guys with boring friends but Facebook is cool to chill with for an hour or so in the morning and finish the day with at night. Definitely not a website you can spend all day on.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:31:03 GMT -5
I'm not overly into gaming (Buy maybe 1-2 new games a year) but I have a buddy who is massively into it and I asked him what the deal on Xbox one is and what he told me sounded like the most ridiculous thing ever so I think the backlash is justified this time.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:28:39 GMT -5
I think maybe they're trying to phase Tenay out a little. After all the guy has been the voice of TNA since day 1 in 2002. 11 years of the same voice on TNA does get old after a little while.
I think they need a new leading man (Not Borash) with Tenay and Taz doing colour. It was perfect with Kennelly I don't know why they changed it.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:25:55 GMT -5
I don't think it's such a stretch that Rampage will take the fall. I mean hopefully Angle is going to be in rehab and Thursday I imagine the Mafia will announce Ortiz is competing in the match in his place. Everyone's brawling and Rampage has the upper hand on say Anderson only for Ortiz to low blow him allowing Anderson to score the win. Rampage and Ortiz have more build towards their fight supposedly (despite the obvious differences between pro wrestling and MMA, but whatever), A&8's get to win one against the Mafia for once and go into Bound For Glory confident. That leads to a "losing faction disbands" match at BFG wich the Mafia win. And Bully loses his title to the BFG Series winner ending A&8's for good. The Mafia then disband since they've achieved their goals. That seems like a logical conclusion to the story in my opinion. Hence why Rampage could be the one to take the fall. Yeah, I agree with you. I think Aces and Eights needs one final night to make them look good before they start losing ground and break up is teased etc. I think the show 2 weeks from now (Now that the match has been delayed) will be the last night that Aces and Eights dominate TNA. Magnus....Main Event....LOhellnoL We've already had this discussion on these boards multiple times and it doesn't really need to be gone over again. Still I don't see whats so wrong with having a young up and comer in the ranks of the M.E.M, it's not that ridiculous of a concept that they would want a future Main Eventer in their ranks to carry on the legacy and put someone over. - "We want fresh faces in the main event scene! Why not use Hogan, Sting, Angle etc to get over newer guys!" - "NO! NOT THOSE NEW GUYS! TNA SUCKS! LOL MAGNUS ISNT MAIN EVENT WTF!"
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:21:27 GMT -5
Eh I don't like that they delayed a big match they were advertising. Would of been a great way to have AJ come down and cement that he's a baby face and help MEM. 1) That would make everything that's happened with AJ so far pointless, he needs something to happen to him before it would make sense for him to just jump back into bed with TNA and the faces. 2) With Bully/Sabin and the two big gimmick matches going on you've already got a stacked show, business 101 dictates that putting another main event quality (from a story standpoint) match in the MEM/Aces and Eights is a bad idea because if you've done it all on one week how do you follow it up the next week? You shouldn't blow your big match load all at once, that's where WCW went wrong a lot of the time and while there is some good things TNA could take from WCW that is not one of them. 1. I don't know, I'd play it as if AJ finally realizes that the Aces and Eights are truly a threat to TNA and he has to do something to overcome them before it's too late. Would be a squeeze but some good writing could do the trick 2. I wouldn't of booked the 2 big gimmick matches. You have your double main event of the 5 Vs 5 and Bully/Sabin in a cage. Next week you can do your gimmick matches.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:18:34 GMT -5
They have sold out section C since I posted last night also. Only cheap seats available for that section. Very cool.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:16:08 GMT -5
Ah, the year that was 2011 TNA. The "Wrestling Matter's" rebranding, the billboards in Stanford, cashing in on CM Punk's popularity. Plus the Victory Road debacle. And signing Matt Hardy. And people wonder why I don't watch TNA anymore, this was it. Not to be rude but if you don't watch TNA anymore what is the point in posting on the TNA board? If you haven't watched since 2011 how do you even know if you dislike it anymore?
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:14:28 GMT -5
Mickie was nice when she wasn't coddled by Ian Rotten. She had a very poor attitude when Ian was around before their falling out. to say nothing of what that scumbag did to the guy who had the gall to injure his meal-ticket after he put her into a hardcore match knowing full well the TNA thing wasn't a done deal yet. Wasn't even a proper injury either. They beat the crap out of that guy at Queen Of The Deathmatch over some swelling on Mickie's face. I think just blaming Ian Rotten is wrong though considering 4-5 other guys were involved. As for Mickie herself, she has a good villain look it's a shame she didn't have longer to flourish.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 17:09:35 GMT -5
Eh I don't like that they delayed a big match they were advertising. Would of been a great way to have AJ come down and cement that he's a baby face and help MEM.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 6:19:01 GMT -5
Wake up call OP, MOST wrestling fans are morons.
Not so much the people online but your average wrestling fan isn't really that intelligent. Everyone has a "stupid wrestling fan" story about a grown adult.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 5:41:21 GMT -5
Roode shouldn't be teaming with these two guys. He needs to be TNA's version of Triple H in 2003-2004. 2 big guys to help him keep the World Heavyweight Title and a Legend to mentor him. Keeps a vice grip on the World Heavyweight Title for 2-3 years. Why do something exactly like WWE did though? To be fair it's more of a Four Horsemen NWA idea. I just see Roode more as a Triple H heel than a Flair. Why do it? It's successful, Roode is talented enough to pull it off and it could make for interesting TV.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 5:09:04 GMT -5
New South Wales lost another State Of Origin series.
Haven't been around long enough to write anything else of note but I'd really like to see New South Wales win just one year.
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Post by SOR on Aug 12, 2013 5:06:46 GMT -5
Roode shouldn't be teaming with these two guys. He needs to be TNA's version of Triple H in 2003-2004. 2 big guys to help him keep the World Heavyweight Title and a Legend to mentor him. Keeps a vice grip on the World Heavyweight Title for 2-3 years. You're on your own here. Nobody wants a Triple H from that time period. You wouldn't be for Bobby Roode ripping through the competition winning the World Title and beating all challengers barely?
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