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Post by saintpat on Sept 25, 2017 11:47:05 GMT -5
If Braun cannot ever lose without being ruined, there wasn't much to him, was there? As for Roman winning, the whole thing was booked to that conclusion. If Cena cuts his balls off on the mic and ridicules him endlessly and RR loses the match, if it were anyone else people would complain if Cena won. Wasn't a great show all around, I agree, but I'll give you this ... you're honest. You didn't get the results you wanted (which is to say the guys you wanted to win didn't win) and you say you're leaving because of it. Most people dance around it and won't admit it's over simple "my guy didn't win," so props to you. Oh, see you Monday. That...wasn’t what he was saying at all. He literally said it wasn’t a well booked show and the main event stuff factored into that. If he was simply admitting “My Guy didn’t win”, he would have said that. And yeah, the Roman thing was pretty much leading to that and many of us knew that (including me because they see money in a WrestleMania rematch from a show that lost the company money) but that doesn’t mean people have to LIKE it. In what ways was the show itself not well booked, just so I understand you? RR beating Cena was not very good leading up to it, but it was logically booked for Roman to win given what went before. So that's not bad booking, it's just an unpopular result; which is to say, the 'wrong' guy won. Which is what I said. Braun was built as a credible threat to Lesnar, who has been booked stronger than literally anyone in WWE history including Hulk Hogan as far as being made to look invincible, and Braun looked more than credible in the match even though he lost. (On a side note, I don't get the 'It only took one F5 to beat Braun' comments; I watched the match and it took that PLUS like six suplexes in succession AND a long kamura lock, which Braun sold incredibly well, to beat him. And I see posts all the time about how finishers should always finish matches if they're hit, which to me is ridiculous as it creates a kayfabe canon that every single wrestler has one single move that can defeat any opponent if they execute it.) The worst booked thing to me in the actual PPV was Wyatt not going over non demon Finn, but I don't see tons of complaints about that because Finn is popular.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 25, 2017 8:55:24 GMT -5
I’m done for a good while. That was one of the worse booked shows I’ve seen a while. So I was already falling in and out because I was busy. But I can’t do this shit anymore when this company won’t even take risks. Braun is ruined and Roman got his latest coronation. Nope. Not doing this anymore. If Braun cannot ever lose without being ruined, there wasn't much to him, was there? As for Roman winning, the whole thing was booked to that conclusion. If Cena cuts his balls off on the mic and ridicules him endlessly and RR loses the match, if it were anyone else people would complain if Cena won. Wasn't a great show all around, I agree, but I'll give you this ... you're honest. You didn't get the results you wanted (which is to say the guys you wanted to win didn't win) and you say you're leaving because of it. Most people dance around it and won't admit it's over simple "my guy didn't win," so props to you. Oh, see you Monday.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 25, 2017 8:24:16 GMT -5
I'm going to order a ham and pineapple pizza, get a 2 liter Dr. Pepper, heat up some cinnamon rolls and watch Raw while I cheer for Roman tonight.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2017 20:15:12 GMT -5
If we're headed to a Sheamus and Cesaro split, there's only one way to settle it ... BEST OF SEVEN!!!
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2017 19:30:18 GMT -5
The demon FONZIE!!!
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2017 19:26:56 GMT -5
"This man created a demon ... a demon who looks, acts and wrestles exactly like me, except with paint."
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2017 19:25:18 GMT -5
This shit here is why I hate Miz being a champion and why I wouldn't approve of him being a world champion. Just the same old shit we've seen from him for the past few years. Yeah he's a heel but he's gotta switch it up. They could have had a better ending. I think it gets more heat with the "I'm tired of this" reaction. Cowboy Bob Orton's cast approves.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 24, 2017 0:43:24 GMT -5
Alright I already had to have a post in the mod section a few days ago but I think we need it out here soon too. FAN is WAY to filled with "us vs them" and this thread is a good excuse to back up the OP's point. Snark needs to die down. Absolutes need to die down. Assuming people's opinions on things because of some OTHER opinion and dismissing them needs to die down. We're a little too judgemental of eachother right now on many levels Let's DISCUSS things. I'm not saying we need to agree, quite the opposite. I'm saying we need to accept the disagreements. No fingers in ears. No talking down. Just... some common courtesy. I agree, but in my experience common courtesy is about as uncommon as common sense. And I like the butter cream icing on cinimmon rolls.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 22, 2017 15:31:06 GMT -5
I wonder how many people are actually, really, truly offended, and how many are "mock offended" as in offended on behalf of others who they feel would be, might be or should be offended?
Political correctness is horrible. If someone came out and cut a truly racist promo (as opposed to this, which was Jinder playing the race card to accuse fans of being racist for laughing at his jokes or booing him because he's not a Caucasian American), I'm sure people would be offended.
But of those chanting, how many REALLY were TRULY offended?
Because they also chat "You Suck" at Kurt Angle. Sometimes some of them chant obscenities in an arena with a lot of children present.
So I don't see this as being a serious thing. It's click bait.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 21, 2017 13:38:27 GMT -5
The heel's job is to wrestle a style during the heat segment and the hopespot/cutoff segment that makes the face look good when the face gets to his shine segment. If a heel is doing cool, fast, flippy stuff that pops the crowd, he will make the face look less good. Hi, actual former heel wrestler here. The job of a heel in ring isn't to be boring, it's to set the pace of the match. If someone tells you to go out and work 15 minutes, then you go out there and lead the match for about 12 of those minutes, plus false comebacks and the finish. Work a leg, be a tall person, flip off the crowd, pull sneaky shit or whatever, but Don't be boring. ECW Cactus Jack disagrees.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 21, 2017 10:25:19 GMT -5
I don't seem to recall any backlash at James Gandolfini and The Sopranos writers because the character was a racist ... a MUCH more blatant racist than this. Sopranos doesn't have a now extremely thin veneer of being presented as a real sport. I suppose that's the main difference. So the idea is that kayfabe is still alive and these are real people in real athletic competition and what they say and do is actually who they are in real life? And yet people are also insinuating that the writers are racist? So if someone is holding onto this 'thin veneer,' how do they explain that there are writers for this TV show like there are for every other TV show?
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Post by saintpat on Sept 21, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
I don't seem to recall any backlash at James Gandolfini and The Sopranos writers because the character was a racist ... a MUCH more blatant racist than this.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 22:32:38 GMT -5
I swear it seems like every move this company makes just exists to add additional chapters to Bryan Alvarez's inevitable Death of TNA book. My first thought is that there will never be such a book because no one would buy it. I mean, WCW was HUGE at one time and then fell off a cliff, so there were probably a lot of former WCW fans who were interested to see how it happened. My second thought is, I could see Bryan having a book deal and calling the publisher year after year saying, "OK, let's get ready to go to press. This company is certifiably DEAD within the next month or two, GUARANTEED!!" And then calling back to say, "Um hold off, they somehow survived. (Again.)"
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 22:22:08 GMT -5
Christian's response:
"You bet I will. But just in case I don't, would you please just give me ... One More Match?"
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 22:18:54 GMT -5
What's going on here is they had two separate ideas for feuds - Bray Wyatt wants to bring out the power of the demon and Bray Wyatt wants to prove that the demon is nothing and Finn is just a man, and even though they're completely contradictory they decided to do both at the same time. Or Bray believes the way to bring out the power of the demon is to act like there is no demon and Finn is just a man.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 20:39:28 GMT -5
Oh sure we could Dolph. We could care a LOT less, actually. Just watch us!
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 20:38:06 GMT -5
So Dolph is officially the only person ever to purposely try to get XPac heat.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 19, 2017 17:59:31 GMT -5
I was hoping the OP meant "Paige was with ICP today" and she was working on her new juggalo gimmick.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 17, 2017 22:30:31 GMT -5
TNA be like: "Look, we've got a roster full of guys who aren't making a living. What makes you so special that you should be any different?"
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Post by saintpat on Sept 16, 2017 11:56:58 GMT -5
He ws the very definition of "generic" in an era when people complained about all the talent basically looking the same. Good hand, but not upper crust.
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