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Post by saintpat on Oct 11, 2016 17:23:29 GMT -5
I hope next week they follow up with Doink as a member of hte press and he does the "Is that a clown question bro?" meme.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 11, 2016 17:20:06 GMT -5
Well, there is some justice in that they get the opportunity that they deserve and we get the thread that we deserve.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 23:54:59 GMT -5
I'm assuming negativity is some sort of slang word for a drug. I don't know. What makes this issue infuriating is that nobody seems to sit down with her and tell her that these "mistakes" have big consequences in the long term. Except we don't know that no one did. It may have happened several times and she ignored it, or blew off people who wanted to do that and refused to even sit down to listen. It's on her to make her own choices. I don't generally accept the "this must be other peoples' faults, THEY should have done this or that" thing. It at least comes off right now as a situation of the only person she MIGHT listen do is ADR.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 19:09:07 GMT -5
Sasha heel turn: "Oh wait, did I say Eddie Guerrero? I meant CHAVO!!!!!!!!!"
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 19:07:00 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero was never a two-time Raw women's champion.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 12:06:13 GMT -5
I was in the audience the night he pinned Cena clean, right in the middle of the ring on Raw. There was a big pop when it happened -- everyone understood that it was a big deal -- but it was because Cena lost clean on live TV, not because Dean won. There were chants of "Let's go Cena/Cena sucks," but never "Let's go Cena/Let's go Dean." There was one weak attempt to get a Dean chant going and it died a very quick and diet death. From everything I can see, Ambrose is simply not over. He is overshadowed by others. I say that being a huge Ambrose guy going back to his Moxley days, but it's too apparent to ignore. Ambrose not being as over as the best wrestler in the world right now and the top wrestling star of the last 10 years = Ambrose isn't over? Talk about a leap.... People who are over get reactions. Doesn't matter who they are against -- if he was over, there would be a reaction. Tepid, sporadic boos for a face isn't positive for him.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 9:54:03 GMT -5
I was in the audience the night he pinned Cena clean, right in the middle of the ring on Raw. There was a big pop when it happened -- everyone understood that it was a big deal -- but it was because Cena lost clean on live TV, not because Dean won.
There were chants of "Let's go Cena/Cena sucks," but never "Let's go Cena/Let's go Dean." There was one weak attempt to get a Dean chant going and it died a very quick and diet death.
From everything I can see, Ambrose is simply not over. He is overshadowed by others. I say that being a huge Ambrose guy going back to his Moxley days, but it's too apparent to ignore.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 9:43:25 GMT -5
The fans are just so damned invested over his winning or losing, and since that's been lost for so many people in this era, it gives his matches an edge over everyone else in terms of crowd reaction. His match quality is propped up by that. So because care about his matches that counts against him? I completely don't get the point. It sounds like your typical "werkratez!!!!!!!!" Let's rate matches by how many spots they have? I don't think that's the point you're trying to make but that's how it comes off.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 10, 2016 0:18:40 GMT -5
They are over. Why shouldn't they be given a chance to hold onto the straps for more than a cup of coffee?
This is an angle that started with Heath not getting drafted and grew into something, a steady organic build that wasn't the same-old same-old every week. It's character-driven. It's what people say they want out of WWE. Give them a break.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 9, 2016 23:56:16 GMT -5
Not a fan of it but I guess the logic of it was to set up a TV mini feud to keep Alexa busy until Becky gets back next month. Still think that there was better ways of going about it though. Yeah, Alexa was in a bad position here. Becky's out so they bring in someone to fill the spot. If Alexa wins, she has nothing to do for a month. If she loses, they have something to keep her on TV in an angle rather than just random matches, so this was the lesser of two evils booking.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 7, 2016 15:13:33 GMT -5
They should sign Matt, give him a little freedom to script his own farewell run and then move him into creative.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 6, 2016 21:53:04 GMT -5
Bring him in with Davey Richards and brand the tag team as The Vanillican Midgets.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 6, 2016 21:50:01 GMT -5
This storyline has more intrigue than TNA's booking. So store-brand nacho cheese or cool ranch? I can't stand the suspense! Nacho. The rum and coke was Flor de Caña 7 year and Pepsi. The self-loathing was TNA flavored. Yeah, save the cool ranch for the PPV. Make it count. Unlike TNA. I like where your head's at.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 6, 2016 21:48:26 GMT -5
I just thought of something: What if Billy Corgan's rebranding for TNA is it becoming Global Force Wrestling? Double J already got everything but an actual roster and tv. So you're saying he owns a ring. Or at least knows where to rent one on the cheap.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 6, 2016 21:37:58 GMT -5
Well considering that only a few months ago it looked like the Nazi Party was going to be the face of TNA and it could still possibly happen, if this isn't a step forward at least it's a step sideways.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 6, 2016 21:34:23 GMT -5
My stats for the night: Four rum & cokes, half a bag of store brand doritos, and a growing sense of self-loathing. This storyline has more intrigue than TNA's booking. So store-brand nacho cheese or cool ranch? I can't stand the suspense!
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Post by saintpat on Oct 5, 2016 5:35:33 GMT -5
Two fairly well-known instances:
Bone Saw figures in Spider-man's origin.
The Waterboy idolized Captain Insano.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 3, 2016 21:44:36 GMT -5
Yeah, she comes off as a ditz and she does deserve a lot of what she gets, but I thought there should be room for one thread to discuss the other side of the story.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Dixie mark, sugs, but there's at least a semblance of a case to be made that maybe she's not the complete horror show she has been portrayed as being. And if I get my facts wrong, please feel free to correct me, as I didn't exactly research this as if it was a college dissertation with a degree riding on it.
So here are some points ot consider:
1) Dixie bought the majority share of TNA in its infancy back in the ealry 2000s when it was barely a thing, small shows and weekly low-rent PPVs under JJ's management. She did so because HealthSouth -- kind of the Enron of its day, a medical/hospital company that was actually some sort of fraud/pyramid scheme that made untold millions for some people who are still in jail -- pulled out as a major investor. JJ came to her because they didn't have the money and TNA was close to dying before it was out of diapers.
2) Dixie went to her rich parents and Panda Energy bought it on the cheap (although paying a quarter million for TNA at that time was probably like doing the same for a local indy today, give or take). Suddenly, the little remnant of WCW had funding beyond what it ever would have had before.
3) Within a few years, Dixie had a TV contract for TNA (FoxSports) and the promotion was doing 'real' PPVs once a month, not weekly $5 wrestling shows.
4) When the original TV deal ended, Dixie got the deal with Spike -- one of the best business moves pulled off by a wrestling promotion not named WWE in modern times, because not only did Spike provide a solid cable TV outlet, it partnered with the promotion and invested in it to the point of funding contracts of some big-name folks that TNA couldn't have afforded otherwise, including headliner Kurt Angle.
5) Talent acquisition was a strong point of TNA, from building around AJ Styles for a long time to bringing in names like Angle, Lashley, Christian, keeping Sting, and a lot of guys who were lesser known but had great talent (many of whom went on to bigger things) like Punk, Christopher Daniels and others. Not saying Dixie scouted these people, but she obviously trusted some people with a good eye considering how many super talents came through.
6) Ushered in a new era of women's wrestling with real talent and good matches long before WWE.
7) I'll skip ahead, but she has managed to keep the company alive despite two major step-downs in TV deals since Spike, and has found infusions of cash by any means after Panda/Pop/Mom withdrew their financial support.
Now I don't think TNA has been well-run, but few wrestling companies ever have been -- look at WCW, which went from the dregs to kicking WWF's fanny like a soccer ball to complete failure due to bad business decisions. Look at how many others have tried and failed to last this long, or to even get near the level of Triple-A to WWE's major league status. Few, if any, others have managed to get overseas TV deals and do regular tours abroad successfully.
My belief is this: No Dixie and TNA would have tied a very quiet death a long time ago and we'd get an occasional "Remember that TNA thing?" Thread on the Rest of Wrestling forum about twice a year with three or four responses. It never would have gone anywhere without the infusion of Panda Cash, and that's Dixie's deal. It never would have made it to Spike and it certainly wouldn't be alive (albeit on life support) today.
I don't know that it ever had the potential to be a money-making venture like ROH and Evolve or Chikara, which stayed alive by staying within their means and not getting ahead of themsevles or too big for their britches (ROH is the best model here, keeping it going on a grass-roots level then moving to satellite TV and then signing on the Sinclair to become a national company, if one that's still under the radar for most except for the hardcores).
TNA threw a Hail Mary with the move to bring in Bischoff and Hogan and go head to head live on Monday nights. It was a reach-for-the-stars attempt to elevate itself to true competitor stature and it failed. After that, it probably should have died soon after, but Dixie has kept the pulse beating, if only just barely, ever since.
So I'd like to hear if anyone else sees anything redeeming about Dixie's impact on Impact, and if they have ideas of how TNA could have survived without her.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 3, 2016 16:27:58 GMT -5
Well, one of their referees tweeted a "join us live tonight for taping" at Universal and TNA retweeted it, which is probably one of their better marketing jobs for a live event in years. Of course it didn't say exactly when.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 3, 2016 16:21:29 GMT -5
I choose Broken Matt Hardy to represent me on the field of battle. That's not fair. I want a re do. Broken Matt is the king of chaos You insult Samurai Cop and think I'm f-ing around in here? !!!!
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