BREAKING NEWZ!!11: TNA HIRES CHRIS MASTERS

[I'm The Cool One]

ddt said:

Is it just me, or are people just looking to bash TNA at any opportunity?

i'm not. i like TNA. i'm just trying to make a point that they hire alot of WWE guys.

[AriadosMan]

withteeth said:

ddt said:

Is it just me, or are people just looking to bash TNA at any opportunity?

i'm not. i like TNA. i'm just trying to make a point that they hire alot of WWE guys.

Don't forget the soon-to-arrive Booker among former WWE people hired by TNA

[I'm The Cool One]

hall and nash

[ddt]

withteeth said:

ddt said:

Is it just me, or are people just looking to bash TNA at any opportunity?

i'm not. i like TNA. i'm just trying to make a point that they hire alot of WWE guys.

Fair enough. But the WWE hired a lot of WCW guys (before McMahon bought the company), yet no one is bashing Vince repeatedly over it.

[AriadosMan]

ddt said:

Fair enough. But the WWE hired a lot of WCW guys (before McMahon bought the company), yet no one is bashing Vince repeatedly over it.

WWE didn't constantly push the WCW newcomers at the expense of his own guys, though. Most storylines in that period were pretty Austin and Rock centric.

When you constantly push anyone from another fed like TNA does for a cheap pop, it smacks of desperation.

[I'm The Cool One]

ddt said:

withteeth said:

i'm not. i like TNA. i'm just trying to make a point that they hire alot of WWE guys.

Fair enough. But the WWE hired a lot of WCW guys (before McMahon bought the company), yet no one is bashing Vince repeatedly over it.

people bash vince repeatedly anyway, lol.

i'll tell you what it is that pisses me off about TNA and why i ride on the "TNA sucks" bandwagon...
TNA has so damn much potential... and they trash it all on guys like 3D, and Rikishi, and the like. they need to stop focusing on their "STARS" and start focusing on their writing... WCW could have hired hogan and macho man and hall and nash and still would have never grown to the proportions they did if they didnt have compelling storylines like the nWo and such...

i want to see TNA become competition for WWE. yet they never will if they don't focus.

[poi zen rana]

so can anyone actually explain to me why it is such a bad thing that tna hires wwe guys? should they only hire guys who worked for home depot that way they aren't using anyone who worked anywhere else? let's see tna is a growing wrestling promotion. how dare they hire people have experience at their jobs! how dare they not just get indie guys who have no experience getting over to a mainstream wrestling audience! that is a ridiculous complaint in my eyes. if someone could just fill me in on why that is such a bad thing please do.

[Limey]

Please try to understand.

I am not denying that TNA hire a lot of WWE wrestlers.

I really am not.

I think that having jokes that TNA hire and will always hire ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING that quits/ is fired by the WWE, regardless of how little sense it makes, are getting old.

That's all I'm saying.

[HMARK Center]

Really, the only guys in TNA who came straight from WWE who've made big impacts are Angle, Christian, Rhino (and WWE didn't do anything with Rhino, anyway, so no biggie), and 3D.

Anyone else they brought in straight from WWE really hasn't done much, or has been used as midcard fodder, far as I can tell. And the ones who didn't work well over short periods (i.e. Test and 'Kishi) were gone pretty quickly.

Really, it's not like many of those guys, again, outside of Angle, Christian, and the Dudleys, are taking much of the spotlight on any particular Impact broadcast.

The joke's just getting kind of old.

[AriadosMan]

poisonrana said:

so can anyone actually explain to me why it is such a bad thing that tna hires wwe guys? should they only hire guys who worked for home depot that way they aren't using anyone who worked anywhere else? let's see tna is a growing wrestling promotion. how dare they hire people have experience at their jobs! how dare they not just get indie guys who have no experience getting over to a mainstream wrestling audience! that is a ridiculous complaint in my eyes. if someone could just fill me in on why that is such a bad thing please do.

Many of their WWE guys are actually good. You don't see people complaining about Christian and Tomko, do you? The ones that people complain about are the has-beens (VKM, Rikishi).

[I'm The Cool One]

hitmanmark said:

Really, the only guys in TNA who came straight from WWE who've made big impacts are Angle, Christian, Rhino (and WWE didn't do anything with Rhino, anyway, so no biggie), and 3D.

Anyone else they brought in straight from WWE really hasn't done much, or has been used as midcard fodder, far as I can tell. And the ones who didn't work well over short periods (i.e. Test and 'Kishi) were gone pretty quickly.

Really, it's not like many of those guys, again, outside of Angle, Christian, and the Dudleys, are taking much of the spotlight on any particular Impact broadcast.

The joke's just getting kind of old.

someone talking about how old a joke is getting, on a board where we STILL get people yelling "I DONT KNOW!" now THATS a joke that has gotten old...

[I'm The Cool One]

and just to keep on subject...

you think the joke is getting old? i think the fact that they keep hiring WWE guys to try and get themselves over is REALLY old. they need to make new stars, not use recycled stars

[macdaddysquid]

I counted 22 of the current 48 people in TNa are former WWE, not counting former TNA stars who are former WWE stars

[ddt]

realfakerazor said:

ddt said:

Fair enough. But the WWE hired a lot of WCW guys (before McMahon bought the company), yet no one is bashing Vince repeatedly over it.

WWE didn't constantly push the WCW newcomers at the expense of his own guys, though. Most storylines in that period were pretty Austin and Rock centric.

When you constantly push anyone from another fed like TNA does for a cheap pop, it smacks of desperation.

I'll certainly give you that; there's no argument there. But the way people go on and on and on about TNA hiring 'WWE guys' and not knowing what to do with them is a little unfair.

Yes, I agree with you that a lot of times TNA seems to go for the shock value (coughRUSSOcough) effect by hiring guys newly gone from the WWE; but some signings are really good for the company -- Christian tops the list, along with Angle (though the overkill isn't helping), Team 3D (who perhaps have overstayed their welcome now), Rhyno, Raven and possibly Booker T.

But McMahon can also be accused of the same shock value goal, though more often than not, he at least was able to do something with the guys he brought over. (Not always; i.e. Vader, Lex Luger)

As for not knowing what to do with these 'WWE imports', TNA can certainly be accused of dropping the ball with some of them; granted, there's not a whole lot you can do with guys like Rikishi or Test or Rhodes. But when they have done something good (i.e. Christian), it seems to be overlooked.

I guess my point is that it's gotten really old and tiring to constantly hear how TNA is only signing 'WWE guys' for the shock value, and that TNA is always counted out before even getting a chance to do anything with these guys. Yet, no one doubts McMahon, despite his fumblings with guys like Vader, and his hair-brained characters for self-amusement, and his silly and pointless skits.

I am not saying that I approve of every move TNA makes -- I'll be the first to say that the younger talent needs more air time, more main event time, and more time to work with (and go over) the veterans -- but I just think it's time to cut the company some slack and let's see what it can do amid all of this negative feedback.

[poi zen rana]

realfakerazor said:

poisonrana said:

so can anyone actually explain to me why it is such a bad thing that tna hires wwe guys? should they only hire guys who worked for home depot that way they aren't using anyone who worked anywhere else? let's see tna is a growing wrestling promotion. how dare they hire people have experience at their jobs! how dare they not just get indie guys who have no experience getting over to a mainstream wrestling audience! that is a ridiculous complaint in my eyes. if someone could just fill me in on why that is such a bad thing please do.

Many of their WWE guys are actually good. You don't see people complaining about Christian and Tomko, do you? The ones that people complain about are the has-beens (VKM, Rikishi).

yes i hear complaints about the has-beens, but we all hear nonstop complaints about any ex wwe guy who shows up in tna. when joey matthews had a dark match before bound for glory, people were saying "oh look tna signs another ex wwe talent" and complaining. joey matthews a pretty good young worker with a bright career in front of him and people were complaining. flash to a little bit later in the night when consequences creed debuted to help killings defend the titles. everyone went nuts about the guy and many said "sign him sign him!", completely ignoring the fact that hours earlier they were bashing tna for having matthews there saying "the roster is too full!".

when you see stuff like that it makes it pretty clear there is a bit of a bias going around.

[Limey]

withteeth said:

and just to keep on subject...

you think the joke is getting old? i think the fact that they keep hiring WWE guys to try and get themselves over is REALLY old. they need to make new stars, not use recycled stars

Stars like Kazarian, Robert Roode and the Motor City Machine Guns?

All getting their due at Genesis.

And please understand that Masters is not yet being picked up. That was a joke.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

I don't think even TNA would be stupid enough to hire him. He's tainted beyond belief right now, and will probably go down as one of the big faces of the Wrestling steroid controversy in 2007.

[i.Sarita.com]

Rhino- Badass, powerhouse who can wrestle hardcore and on the mat.

Christian- Full of charisma, Solid in the Ring, Main Eventer than never got his chance to shine in the WWE

Kurt Angle- A lot of people consider him the best technical wrestler in the world, multi-time WWE champion, charismatic on the mic

Team 3D- One of the greatest Tag Teams in history, garner tons of heat when playin heels

Matt Morgan- Great working big man with LOADS of upside, never got a chance in the WWE to really prove himself

Tomko- After being released from the WWE he went on to become a huge player in Japan, agile for his size

Brother Runt- Big fan following in both ECW and WWE, big time spot machine

Junior Fatu- Schtick died along time ago but got loud pops from the live crowds *I'm glad he's gone though*

Joey Matthews- One half of one of the hottest Tag Teams in recent history, very solid in ring performer

VKM- BG James has been with TNA since it's early days, Kip James won many titles in the WWE and the NOA were ounced considered to be one of the best Tag Teams ever

Andrew Martin- Bad attitude, but decent in the ring for a man of his size *I didn't care much for this one either and I'm also glad he's gone*

Black Reign- Beloved by many in both the IWC and the casual fans as Goldust, plays his two face gimmick well despite slowing down in-ring wise

Raven- Wasn't given nearly a big of a push as he deserved from the WWE, came into TNA as a firestorm and won World Title with tons of fan support *Do people consider him a WWE reject also?*

Kevin Nash- Former WWF and WCW World Champion, half of one of the most over tag teams in history, helped the X Divison build character simply by interacting with them *Hopefully he stays out of the ring*

The Steiner Brothers- One of the greatest Tag Teams in history, Scott put Joe over big time in the fued they had, Rick doesn't have much to offer anymore sadly

Ron Killings- Another WWE reject people? Guys been part of TNA since the early days as well, VERY good in the ring and hopefully gets a chance to shine minus Pacman

Jeff Hardy- Mega-Over with the fans, daredevil who's only downside was lack of focus and/or addiction

Booker T- Has been a Main Event level performer for almost 10 years, Multiple time WCW and WWE champion, BIG TIME over with the crowd and would be welcomed with open arms in TNA

*Am I forgetting anyone? Seems to me that TNA has reasons behind the people they hire, be it in-ring talent or overness with the general public...they don't care what people on the internet have to say, since they're product isn't geared towards them. I'll never understand why people use "They hire WWE Rejects all the time" as an excuse why TNA sucks...doesn't everyone who works for the WWE come from someplace else? Other than the developmental guys...are CM Punk and Jamie Noble ROH rejects? Of course they're going to hire people with proven track records and name recgonition over random Indy guys...it's business, and like it or not...TNA isn't trying to be an Indy fed, they're trying to build themselves into something more than that...*

[erisi236]

Kaz wrestled a few matches in WWE, that must be why they're pushing him now.

[I'm The Cool One]

ddt said:

realfakerazor said:

WWE didn't constantly push the WCW newcomers at the expense of his own guys, though. Most storylines in that period were pretty Austin and Rock centric.

When you constantly push anyone from another fed like TNA does for a cheap pop, it smacks of desperation.

I'll certainly give you that; there's no argument there. But the way people go on and on and on about TNA hiring 'WWE guys' and not knowing what to do with them is a little unfair.

Yes, I agree with you that a lot of times TNA seems to go for the shock value (coughRUSSOcough) effect by hiring guys newly gone from the WWE; but some signings are really good for the company -- Christian tops the list, along with Angle, Team 3D (who perhaps have overstayed their welcome now), Rhyno, Raven and possibly Booker T.

But McMahon can also be accused of the same shock value goal, though more often than not, he at least was able to do something with the guys he brought over. (Not always; i.e. Vader, Lex Luger)

As for not knowing what to do with these 'WWE imports', TNA can certainly be accused of dropping the ball with some of them; granted, there's not a whole lot you can do with guys like Rikishi or Test or Rhodes. But when they have done something good (i.e. Christian), it seems to be overlooked.

I guess my point is that it's gotten really old and tiring to constantly hear how TNA is only signing 'WWE guys' for the shock value, and that TNA is always counted out before even getting a chance to do anything with these guys. Yet, no one doubts McMahon, despite his fumblings with guys like Vader, and his hair-brained characters for self-amusement, and his silly and pointless skits.

I am not saying that I approve of every move TNA makes -- I'll be the first to say that the younger talent needs more air time, more main event time, and more time to work with (and go over) the veterans -- but I just think it's time to cut the company some slack and let's see what it can do amid all of this negative feedback.

since when does no one doubt mcmahon, though. everything mcmahon does is doubted. mcmahon takes a dump and people complain that he's killing the business...

like i've said. TNA needs to stop worrying about WHO they are hiring. and they need to start worrying about their wrighting... they could hire GOD to a 10 year contract, and no one would watch if it wasn't compelling storylines.