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Post by erisi236 on Nov 17, 2007 18:33:24 GMT -5
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Post by krazysane on Nov 17, 2007 19:29:42 GMT -5
Granted I dont watch tna alot, or at all really. But when talknig about pushes, i am even up set Joe is not the tna champion. Its stupid. He should be champ and running the company to something better.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 19, 2007 9:36:41 GMT -5
Granted I dont watch tna alot, or at all really. But when talknig about pushes, i am even up set Joe is not the tna champion. Its stupid. He should be champ and running the company to something better. may i ask you why? i hear this all the time. what is it about joe that means he must wear the gold or tna is stupid? granted i enjoy his ring work. very good worker in the ring. however, so is kurt angle. don't get me wrong, joe is also extremely talented on the mic, but so is kurt angle. then kurt gets an advantage because he not only has a larger fan base, i believe kurt's arrogant heel character is far easier to use to set up main event level feuds. i believe joe will get his time. i just find it funny how many people think he is being misused because he doesn't hold the belt for two years.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 19, 2007 10:25:46 GMT -5
Granted I dont watch tna alot, or at all really. But when talknig about pushes, i am even up set Joe is not the tna champion. Its stupid. He should be champ and running the company to something better. may i ask you why? i hear this all the time. what is it about joe that means he must wear the gold or tna is stupid? granted i enjoy his ring work. very good worker in the ring. however, so is kurt angle. don't get me wrong, joe is also extremely talented on the mic, but so is kurt angle. then kurt gets an advantage because he not only has a larger fan base, i believe kurt's arrogant heel character is far easier to use to set up main event level feuds. i believe joe will get his time. i just find it funny how many people think he is being misused because he doesn't hold the belt for two years. Perhaps it's just part of the continuing gripe that TNA isn't really the "alternative" they insisted they were for so long. Kurt Angle is their World Champ...just like he was in WWE for a good long time. So it just feels like more of the same, but with a 6-sided ring.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 19, 2007 10:58:04 GMT -5
may i ask you why? i hear this all the time. what is it about joe that means he must wear the gold or tna is stupid? granted i enjoy his ring work. very good worker in the ring. however, so is kurt angle. don't get me wrong, joe is also extremely talented on the mic, but so is kurt angle. then kurt gets an advantage because he not only has a larger fan base, i believe kurt's arrogant heel character is far easier to use to set up main event level feuds. i believe joe will get his time. i just find it funny how many people think he is being misused because he doesn't hold the belt for two years. Perhaps it's just part of the continuing gripe that TNA isn't really the "alternative" they insisted they were for so long. Kurt Angle is their World Champ...just like he was in WWE for a good long time. So it just feels like more of the same, but with a 6-sided ring. but then you are being picky. i never hear tna say "we are the alternative because we have samoa joe as a champion". there are many ways to be an alternative. look at their tag division. just a comparison but the last wwe pay per view had only one set of tag belts defended in a match that got very little hype and if i heard correctly (was in a noisy bar watching this ppv) it was set up on a wwe.com exclusive days before the pay per view. therefore, in tag team wrestling tna is an alternative. in tna just because your tag team is not fighting for the belts does not mean you aren't doing anything. tna is also starting to be an alternative in women's wrestling. i could go on but i think i have made my point. i just don't buy that tna can not call it self an alternative just because kurt angle is the title holder.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 19, 2007 11:13:29 GMT -5
Perhaps it's just part of the continuing gripe that TNA isn't really the "alternative" they insisted they were for so long. Kurt Angle is their World Champ...just like he was in WWE for a good long time. So it just feels like more of the same, but with a 6-sided ring. but then you are being picky. i never hear tna say "we are the alternative because we have samoa joe as a champion". there are many ways to be an alternative. look at their tag division. just a comparison but the last wwe pay per view had only one set of tag belts defended in a match that got very little hype and if i heard correctly (was in a noisy bar watching this ppv) it was set up on a wwe.com exclusive days before the pay per view. therefore, in tag team wrestling tna is an alternative. in tna just because your tag team is not fighting for the belts does not mean you aren't doing anything. tna is also starting to be an alternative in women's wrestling. i could go on but i think i have made my point. i just don't buy that tna can not call it self an alternative just because kurt angle is the title holder. I never said it was a fair complaint. Just suggesting a possible reason why people think Joe should be champ.
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Post by thestinger on Nov 19, 2007 13:12:00 GMT -5
I never said it was a fair complaint. Just suggesting a possible reason why people think Joe should be champ. Am I the only one who remembers that fans were complaining for the six months Angle was in TNA and NOT world champion that TNA had made Kurt, "Just another guy?" For the most part all the arguing about where people should be on the card is silly and subjective. It seems as if most if not all fans feel like if their favorite is NOT the world champion, he's being wasted regardless of how high up the card he's being used. For me there's about three people in TNA I think should be pushed more (Christopher Daniels, Chris Harris and Senshi). Six months ago Sabin and Shelley would have been on the list.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 19, 2007 13:13:43 GMT -5
I never said it was a fair complaint. Just suggesting a possible reason why people think Joe should be champ. Am I the only one who remembers that fans were complaining for the six months Angle was in TNA and NOT world champion that TNA had made Kurt, "Just another guy?" For the most part all the arguing about where people should be on the card is silly and subjective. It seems as if most if not all fans feel like if their favorite is NOT the world champion, he's being wasted regardless of how high up the card he's being used. For me there's about three people in TNA I think should be pushed more (Christopher Daniels, Chris Harris and Senshi). Six months ago Sabin and Shelley would have been on the list. I can't speak for the rest of the board, but I never thought Angle needed to be champ.
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Post by thestinger on Nov 19, 2007 14:05:36 GMT -5
I can't speak for the rest of the board, but I never thought Angle needed to be champ. Yes, but you also said that's because you've already seen Angle as champ in WWE. I haven't, and I know other TNA fans that haven't so it's new to us.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 19, 2007 16:20:50 GMT -5
I can't speak for the rest of the board, but I never thought Angle needed to be champ. Yes, but you also said that's because you've already seen Angle as champ in WWE. I haven't, and I know other TNA fans that haven't so it's new to us. Not anymore.
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