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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 12, 2007 21:46:45 GMT -5
If he didn't apologize for the stupid comment about Gail Kim, then he's an idiot. That was seriously the stupidest thing he said last week. What did he say? Didn't he just say ODB pinning her was stupid?
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 12, 2007 21:52:07 GMT -5
If he didn't apologize for the stupid comment about Gail Kim, then he's an idiot. That was seriously the stupidest thing he said last week. What did he say? Didn't he just say ODB pinning her was stupid? What he said was: Besides the fact that he got the whole finish of the match wrong(ODB used her flask to beat an already weakened Gail), he tries to act like TNA is trying to bury the division on purpose cause they had a good match. Nevermind the fact that Tenay and West were shilling the match as the greatest women's match ever, and did everything to put her over. I expect Lance to not like it,but I wish he would get something right. That was just complete BS.
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Post by metylerca on Dec 12, 2007 22:13:55 GMT -5
You know, for a guy who had zero charisma in the ring and on the mic... we sure are giving his comments quite a bit of attention eh?
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 12, 2007 22:50:31 GMT -5
i swear there are some people here who will argue with a brick wall just to get a reaction... it's insane.
people still fail to see the resasoning behind his ranting even though he just explained his reasoning in plain english right there in the OP...
- If TNA dosen't change the way they are doing business and producing their TV show then they will go out of business. Bottom line. You can't put out s*** and stay in business.
- WWE isn't "allowed" to do the same things TNA are doing. That's not the point. WWE has been around for longer than all of us have been alive... they are pretty much engrained, and they are still making money hand-over-fist... They don't have to worry about going out of business anytime soon. They can have a s***ty period and not be totally bankrupt by it... TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. It's like this...
Let's say theres a small company that has this great tasting soda that just needs to be tweeked just a little bit... It's acceptable that it would need to be tweeked, they're a new company. Now they're trying to get into a business that is dominated by Coke and Pepsi... they have a product that (with the right tweeking) could potentially be better than Coke or Pepsi... Yet for some reason, they don't do that tweeking. They think that since Coke and Pepsi are keeping THEIR formula the same, then they can too. Dispite the fact that there is someone out there who helped created the formula for Pepsi TELLING THEM what they should do to make their soda better... They just ignore it and continue. Soon, people stop drinking their soda... They start losing money... What's next? THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
Thats what TNA are doing... They are a young company... And they have a product that, with the right tweeking, could be better than WWE... They have the in-ring talent to be a great company... They just need to do that tweeking... They need to work out the kinks. Yet there they stand, with their fingers in their ears and their thumbs up their asses, not improving the product... Soon they will stop making whatever profit they make at this point (assuming they're turning a profit by now)... The new viewers will stop tuning in because it is too damn confusing for them. And dispite what you all may think... The TNArmy or whatever you call yourselves... You can't keep that company alive with your dollar alone. There HAS to be that influx of new viewers to keep the company alive... And without those new viewers, without those buyrates, without those DVD sales... The company will go under...
Now why is it "Okay" for WWE to do it? It's not... I think WWE is just as s***ty right now... But WWE has a lot more money, alot more of a loyal fan base, a lot more name recognition, and alot more of a net to fall back on... They can have a few years of really sucking before they have to worry about losing money... And even though in MY opinion they have sucked bad for the past few years... They're still getting those ratings, those buy rates, those DVD sales, those merch sales, etc. etc. etc... They're still making money hand-over-fist... TNA (if hey ARE making a profit at this point) are just barely making a profit... it's so f***ing easy to lose that money by making bad business decisions... ESPECIALLY when you're a young company...
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 12, 2007 23:03:11 GMT -5
i swear there are some people here who will argue with a brick wall just to get a reaction... it's insane. people still fail to see the resasoning behind his ranting even though he just explained his reasoning in plain english right there in the OP... - If TNA dosen't change the way they are doing business and producing their TV show then they will go out of business. Bottom line. You can't put out s*** and stay in business. . - WWE isn't "allowed" to do the same things TNA are doing. That's not the point. WWE has been around for longer than all of us have been alive... they are pretty much engrained, and they are still making money hand-over-fist... They don't have to worry about going out of business anytime soon. They can have a s***ty period and not be totally bankrupt by it... TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. It's like this... Let's say theres a small company that has this great tasting soda that just needs to be tweeked just a little bit... It's acceptable that it would need to be tweeked, they're a new company. Now they're trying to get into a business that is dominated by Coke and Pepsi... they have a product that (with the right tweeking) could potentially be better than Coke or Pepsi... Yet for some reason, they don't do that tweeking. They think that since Coke and Pepsi are keeping THEIR formula the same, then they can too. Dispite the fact that there is someone out there who helped created the formula for Pepsi TELLING THEM what they should do to make their soda better... They just ignore it and continue. Soon, people stop drinking their soda... They start losing money... What's next? THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. Thats what TNA are doing... They are a young company... And they have a product that, with the right tweeking, could be better than WWE... They have the in-ring talent to be a great company... They just need to do that tweeking... They need to work out the kinks. Yet there they stand, with their fingers in their ears and their thumbs up their asses, not improving the product... Soon they will stop making whatever profit they make at this point (assuming they're turning a profit by now)... The new viewers will stop tuning in because it is too damn confusing for them. And dispite what you all may think... The TNArmy or whatever you call yourselves... You can't keep that company alive with your dollar alone. There HAS to be that influx of new viewers to keep the company alive... And without those new viewers, without those buyrates, without those DVD sales... The company will go under... Now why is it "Okay" for WWE to do it? It's not... I think WWE is just as s***ty right now... But WWE has a lot more money, alot more of a loyal fan base, a lot more name recognition, and alot more of a net to fall back on... They can have a few years of really sucking before they have to worry about losing money... And even though in MY opinion they have sucked bad for the past few years... They're still getting those ratings, those buy rates, those DVD sales, those merch sales, etc. etc. etc... They're still making money hand-over-fist... TNA (if hey ARE making a profit at this point) are just barely making a profit... it's so f***ing easy to lose that money by making bad business decisions... ESPECIALLY when you're a young company... How are they not changing? A few months ago, guys like Kaz & Young wouldn't have been involved in the main event scene, even for a little bit. The MCMG were without a direction, and now in this big feud. A bunch of guys got attention recently when they were nowhere to be found before that. A lot of spots around the roster have changed up in different positions. I can't see how they are supposedly staying the same. Some of the things aren't confusing as people make them out to be People just don't like the history that the people writing the stuff have, and write off everything they do, no matter what. It seems more that they are trying a lot of things differently, but they have no effect in the ratings. I say it relies on advertisement more than anything else.
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Post by thestinger on Dec 12, 2007 23:05:26 GMT -5
TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. And even if they ARE careful they could still go out of business. Like I wrote earlier: TNA may also be out of business in X amount of years no matter what they do. Maybe starting a new business an industry where there exists a monopoly is doomed to failure from the start. So what the hell do you want people to do? You want every single person to agree with you that the booking is always horrible? I'm not going to admit that since I don't believe it. When I see a dumb storyline likedumb Abyss saga, I criticize. And when people criticize TNA in ways that are unwarranted (like that period of time where fans on this board were claiming TNA has 'constant' face/heel turns happening every week, I will step up and call BS.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Dec 12, 2007 23:05:33 GMT -5
i swear there are some people here who will argue with a brick wall just to get a reaction... it's insane. people still fail to see the resasoning behind his ranting even though he just explained his reasoning in plain english right there in the OP... - If TNA dosen't change the way they are doing business and producing their TV show then they will go out of business. Bottom line. You can't put out s*** and stay in business. - WWE isn't "allowed" to do the same things TNA are doing. That's not the point. WWE has been around for longer than all of us have been alive... they are pretty much engrained, and they are still making money hand-over-fist... They don't have to worry about going out of business anytime soon. They can have a s***ty period and not be totally bankrupt by it... TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. It's like this... Let's say theres a small company that has this great tasting soda that just needs to be tweeked just a little bit... It's acceptable that it would need to be tweeked, they're a new company. Now they're trying to get into a business that is dominated by Coke and Pepsi... they have a product that (with the right tweeking) could potentially be better than Coke or Pepsi... Yet for some reason, they don't do that tweeking. They think that since Coke and Pepsi are keeping THEIR formula the same, then they can too. Dispite the fact that there is someone out there who helped created the formula for Pepsi TELLING THEM what they should do to make their soda better... They just ignore it and continue. Soon, people stop drinking their soda... They start losing money... What's next? THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. Thats what TNA are doing... They are a young company... And they have a product that, with the right tweeking, could be better than WWE... They have the in-ring talent to be a great company... They just need to do that tweeking... They need to work out the kinks. Yet there they stand, with their fingers in their ears and their thumbs up their asses, not improving the product... Soon they will stop making whatever profit they make at this point (assuming they're turning a profit by now)... The new viewers will stop tuning in because it is too damn confusing for them. And dispite what you all may think... The TNArmy or whatever you call yourselves... You can't keep that company alive with your dollar alone. There HAS to be that influx of new viewers to keep the company alive... And without those new viewers, without those buyrates, without those DVD sales... The company will go under... Now why is it "Okay" for WWE to do it? It's not... I think WWE is just as s***ty right now... But WWE has a lot more money, alot more of a loyal fan base, a lot more name recognition, and alot more of a net to fall back on... They can have a few years of really sucking before they have to worry about losing money... And even though in MY opinion they have sucked bad for the past few years... They're still getting those ratings, those buy rates, those DVD sales, those merch sales, etc. etc. etc... They're still making money hand-over-fist... TNA (if hey ARE making a profit at this point) are just barely making a profit... it's so f***ing easy to lose that money by making bad business decisions... ESPECIALLY when you're a young company... Yet all of that? That's your opinion. TNA's product isn't for everyone, but because it's not for you, me defending it would be considered insane.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 12, 2007 23:11:05 GMT -5
i swear there are some people here who will argue with a brick wall just to get a reaction... it's insane. people still fail to see the resasoning behind his ranting even though he just explained his reasoning in plain english right there in the OP... - If TNA dosen't change the way they are doing business and producing their TV show then they will go out of business. Bottom line. You can't put out s*** and stay in business. . - WWE isn't "allowed" to do the same things TNA are doing. That's not the point. WWE has been around for longer than all of us have been alive... they are pretty much engrained, and they are still making money hand-over-fist... They don't have to worry about going out of business anytime soon. They can have a s***ty period and not be totally bankrupt by it... TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. It's like this... Let's say theres a small company that has this great tasting soda that just needs to be tweeked just a little bit... It's acceptable that it would need to be tweeked, they're a new company. Now they're trying to get into a business that is dominated by Coke and Pepsi... they have a product that (with the right tweeking) could potentially be better than Coke or Pepsi... Yet for some reason, they don't do that tweeking. They think that since Coke and Pepsi are keeping THEIR formula the same, then they can too. Dispite the fact that there is someone out there who helped created the formula for Pepsi TELLING THEM what they should do to make their soda better... They just ignore it and continue. Soon, people stop drinking their soda... They start losing money... What's next? THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. Thats what TNA are doing... They are a young company... And they have a product that, with the right tweeking, could be better than WWE... They have the in-ring talent to be a great company... They just need to do that tweeking... They need to work out the kinks. Yet there they stand, with their fingers in their ears and their thumbs up their asses, not improving the product... Soon they will stop making whatever profit they make at this point (assuming they're turning a profit by now)... The new viewers will stop tuning in because it is too damn confusing for them. And dispite what you all may think... The TNArmy or whatever you call yourselves... You can't keep that company alive with your dollar alone. There HAS to be that influx of new viewers to keep the company alive... And without those new viewers, without those buyrates, without those DVD sales... The company will go under... Now why is it "Okay" for WWE to do it? It's not... I think WWE is just as s***ty right now... But WWE has a lot more money, alot more of a loyal fan base, a lot more name recognition, and alot more of a net to fall back on... They can have a few years of really sucking before they have to worry about losing money... And even though in MY opinion they have sucked bad for the past few years... They're still getting those ratings, those buy rates, those DVD sales, those merch sales, etc. etc. etc... They're still making money hand-over-fist... TNA (if hey ARE making a profit at this point) are just barely making a profit... it's so f***ing easy to lose that money by making bad business decisions... ESPECIALLY when you're a young company... How are they not changing? A few months ago, guys like Kaz & Young wouldn't have been involved in the main event scene, even for a little bit. The MCMG were without a direction, and now in this big feud. A bunch of guys got attention recently when they were nowhere to be found before that. A lot of spots around the roster have changed up in different positions. I can't see how they are supposedly staying the same. Some of the things aren't confusing as people make them out to be People just don't like the history that the people writing the stuff have, and write off everything they do, no matter what. It seems more that they are trying a lot of things differently, but they have no effect in the ratings. I say it relies on advertisement more than anything else. i see what you're saying. however, i like vince russo. i think the guy knows what he's doing for the most part... i'm not going to write off everything he does... not my style. and givin Kaz a push that lasted all of three weeks to a month maybe... thats not changing anything. they need to make SERIOUS changes... they are taking the same formula and putting different people into it. thats not changing anything... they DO need more advertisment. i'll agree with that! but their booking needs improvement as well...
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 12, 2007 23:14:11 GMT -5
TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. And even if they ARE careful they could still go out of business. Like I wrote earlier: TNA may also be out of business in X amount of years no matter what they do. Maybe starting a new business an industry where there exists a monopoly is doomed to failure from the start. So what the hell do you want people to do? You want every single person to agree with you that the booking is always horrible? I'm not going to admit that since I don't believe it. When I see a dumb storyline likedumb Abyss saga, I criticize. And when people criticize TNA in ways that are unwarranted (like that period of time where fans on this board were claiming TNA has 'constant' face/heel turns happening every week, I will step up and call BS. but what would be the smartest BUSINESS move? - Failing and going out of business while trying something new in order to really better your company or - going out of business by just throwing your hands up and saying "it's possible that we could go out of business no matter what we do... so why don't we just do the same ol s*** and see what happens" if you could go out of business ANYWAY then why don't you take that calculated risk and try to change that formula? do something new to make some noise so people will look your way... take the eric bischoff route... get people's attention so they start watching... instead of just giving up because you could go out of business no matter what you do EDIT: Also. I don't tink that the booking is always horrible... You're putting words in my mouth. I think there is alot about TNA that is great... But they have some stuff they need to work on... And they're not workign on it.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 12, 2007 23:16:50 GMT -5
i swear there are some people here who will argue with a brick wall just to get a reaction... it's insane. people still fail to see the resasoning behind his ranting even though he just explained his reasoning in plain english right there in the OP... - If TNA dosen't change the way they are doing business and producing their TV show then they will go out of business. Bottom line. You can't put out s*** and stay in business. - WWE isn't "allowed" to do the same things TNA are doing. That's not the point. WWE has been around for longer than all of us have been alive... they are pretty much engrained, and they are still making money hand-over-fist... They don't have to worry about going out of business anytime soon. They can have a s***ty period and not be totally bankrupt by it... TNA are a NEW company. They have to be very carefull of the product they produce. If they are not carefull then they could very well go out of business. It's like this... Let's say theres a small company that has this great tasting soda that just needs to be tweeked just a little bit... It's acceptable that it would need to be tweeked, they're a new company. Now they're trying to get into a business that is dominated by Coke and Pepsi... they have a product that (with the right tweeking) could potentially be better than Coke or Pepsi... Yet for some reason, they don't do that tweeking. They think that since Coke and Pepsi are keeping THEIR formula the same, then they can too. Dispite the fact that there is someone out there who helped created the formula for Pepsi TELLING THEM what they should do to make their soda better... They just ignore it and continue. Soon, people stop drinking their soda... They start losing money... What's next? THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. Thats what TNA are doing... They are a young company... And they have a product that, with the right tweeking, could be better than WWE... They have the in-ring talent to be a great company... They just need to do that tweeking... They need to work out the kinks. Yet there they stand, with their fingers in their ears and their thumbs up their asses, not improving the product... Soon they will stop making whatever profit they make at this point (assuming they're turning a profit by now)... The new viewers will stop tuning in because it is too damn confusing for them. And dispite what you all may think... The TNArmy or whatever you call yourselves... You can't keep that company alive with your dollar alone. There HAS to be that influx of new viewers to keep the company alive... And without those new viewers, without those buyrates, without those DVD sales... The company will go under... Now why is it "Okay" for WWE to do it? It's not... I think WWE is just as s***ty right now... But WWE has a lot more money, alot more of a loyal fan base, a lot more name recognition, and alot more of a net to fall back on... They can have a few years of really sucking before they have to worry about losing money... And even though in MY opinion they have sucked bad for the past few years... They're still getting those ratings, those buy rates, those DVD sales, those merch sales, etc. etc. etc... They're still making money hand-over-fist... TNA (if hey ARE making a profit at this point) are just barely making a profit... it's so f***ing easy to lose that money by making bad business decisions... ESPECIALLY when you're a young company... Yet all of that? That's your opinion. TNA's product isn't for everyone, but because it's not for you, me defending it would be considered insane. thats where you're wrong... you're reading my post in the same way freakin everyone is reading lance storms posting... i'll put this next part in all caps so no one can mistake it or read over it... I AM A FAN OF TNA WRESTLING. I WATCH IT EVERY WEEK. I'VE BOUGHT NUMEROUS DVDS IN HOPES OF SUPPORTING THE COMPANY BECAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE ALOT OF POTENTIAL AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM SUCCEEDnow that that's out of the way... TNA's product is very enjoyable alot of the time... but they still have alot to work on... problem is, they're not working on it. And thats dangerous for a new business...
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 12, 2007 23:20:30 GMT -5
How are they not changing? A few months ago, guys like Kaz & Young wouldn't have been involved in the main event scene, even for a little bit. The MCMG were without a direction, and now in this big feud. A bunch of guys got attention recently when they were nowhere to be found before that. A lot of spots around the roster have changed up in different positions. I can't see how they are supposedly staying the same. Some of the things aren't confusing as people make them out to be People just don't like the history that the people writing the stuff have, and write off everything they do, no matter what. It seems more that they are trying a lot of things differently, but they have no effect in the ratings. I say it relies on advertisement more than anything else. i see what you're saying. however, i like vince russo. i think the guy knows what he's doing for the most part... i'm not going to write off everything he does... not my style. and givin Kaz a push that lasted all of three weeks to a month maybe... thats not changing anything. they need to make SERIOUS changes... they are taking the same formula and putting different people into it. thats not changing anything... they DO need more advertisment. i'll agree with that! but their booking needs improvement as well... I don't get the same formula thing. Before this, Kurt Angle was in the tag team match at Genesis, the 1 on 1 match with Sting at BFG, 2 1 on 1 match with Abyss & Jay lethal, and a tag team with Sting versus team Pacman, and before that at Hard Justice it was the All or Nothing with Samoa Joe, and before that it was the Match of Champions with Kurt & Joe vs Team 3D. I won't even go into the other stuff that's happened below the main event.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 12, 2007 23:23:21 GMT -5
i see what you're saying. however, i like vince russo. i think the guy knows what he's doing for the most part... i'm not going to write off everything he does... not my style. and givin Kaz a push that lasted all of three weeks to a month maybe... thats not changing anything. they need to make SERIOUS changes... they are taking the same formula and putting different people into it. thats not changing anything... they DO need more advertisment. i'll agree with that! but their booking needs improvement as well... I don't get the same formula thing. Before this, Kurt Angle was in the tag team match at Genesis, the 1 on 1 match with Sting at BFG, 2 1 on 1 match with Abyss & Jay lethal, and a tag team with Sting versus team Pacman, and before that at Hard Justice it was the All or Nothing with Samoa Joe, and before that it was the Match of Champions with Kurt & Joe vs Team 3D. I won't even go into the other stuff that's happened below the main event. dude... i can see what you're saying... i'm not doing a good enough job of expressing what i'm trying to here... it's much more broad than specific storylines... i'm not going to be able to articulate what i'm trying to say better than i already have...
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Post by metylerca on Dec 12, 2007 23:29:33 GMT -5
i see what you're saying. however, i like vince russo. i think the guy knows what he's doing for the most part... i'm not going to write off everything he does... not my style. and givin Kaz a push that lasted all of three weeks to a month maybe... thats not changing anything. they need to make SERIOUS changes... they are taking the same formula and putting different people into it. thats not changing anything... they DO need more advertisment. i'll agree with that! but their booking needs improvement as well... I don't get the same formula thing. Before this, Kurt Angle was in the tag team match at Genesis, the 1 on 1 match with Sting at BFG, 2 1 on 1 match with Abyss & Jay lethal, and a tag team with Sting versus team Pacman, and before that at Hard Justice it was the All or Nothing with Samoa Joe, and before that it was the Match of Champions with Kurt & Joe vs Team 3D. I won't even go into the other stuff that's happened below the main event. I'd say too much Angle, but then i'd contradict myself because of all the Cena main events this year alone. Will this whole thing ever end? Here's my stand at the moment WWE=$$$ TNA=less $$$ therefore as a company WWE > TNA TNA's workrate=7/10 WWE's workrate=6/10 therefore in terms of ring ability TNA>WWE I can go on and on....
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 13, 2007 3:11:53 GMT -5
You think Storm is bad, just listen to figure four weekly from Saturday. Seriously it's an hour of him going nuts and drinking while reviewing recap. One of the funniest non wwe thing I've heard in a while.
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Post by capnsteve on Dec 13, 2007 5:21:04 GMT -5
Lance is part of the problem. He's sworn off TNA several times for the slightest things but as far as I know he's never even hinted that he might stop watching WWE. What really bugs me isn't that he gets on TNA's case for things WWE does, it's that he gets on TNA's case for things every promotion in the past 50 years has done.
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Post by tnarick on Dec 13, 2007 6:12:21 GMT -5
Lance Storms problem is he never became a star due to Vince Russo not keeping full control over WCW and ever since he has become a pretty bitter man. If Lance Storm wants to see how to get young talent over he needs to look back at WCW 2000 when Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner, Booker T, The Cat, and Positively Kanyon were breaking out. It isn't going to be pure wrestling on shows without gimmicks that get people over, it is creative gimmicks with well written storylines that we have not seen since WCW 2000 and TNA 2002-2003 when Russo had more control.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Dec 13, 2007 6:32:22 GMT -5
Lance Storms problem is he never became a star due to Vince Russo not keeping full control over WCW and ever since he has become a pretty bitter man. If Lance Storm wants to see how to get young talent over he needs to look back at WCW 2000 when Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner, Booker T, The Cat, and Positively Kanyon were breaking out. It isn't going to be pure wrestling on shows without gimmicks that get people over, it is creative gimmicks with well written storylines that we have not seen since WCW 2000 and TNA 2002-2003 when Russo had more control. Please, please, please tell me you're been sarcastic when you talk about younger guys in WCW! Scott Steiner was 38 in 2000 and DDP was a spritely 44!
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Post by tnarick on Dec 13, 2007 6:42:41 GMT -5
That is still pretty young. They had not seen huge pushes and great characters yet in their careers and luckily Vince Russo gave it to them. The main events featured Jarrett,Nash,Steiner,Booker T, Sting, Goldberg, The Cat.. and everyone else from top to bottom of the card was doing something interesting. The Jung Dragons to 3 Count, to The Filthy Animals with Disco infero the cruiserweight division was no longer boring to watch. The tag division with Kronik was great, Vampiro and the dark army with ICP, Muta, The Demon were awesome. Mike Sanders and the Natural Born Thrillers were hilarious. Lance Storm got the biggest push of his career winning 3 belts and having Team Canada with Elix Skipper and Hacksaw Jim Duggan and kidnapping Major Gunns from the fun characters of the Misfits in Action. WCW 2000 gets ragged on when in reality anyone who actually watched every episode without reading the internet LOVED IT.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Dec 13, 2007 6:45:41 GMT -5
Oh and by the way I am amazed at some of the blind love for TNA in this thread, people who are saying Vince Russo knows what he's doing and how all the comedy angles in TNA are great! Read Eddie Guerrero's book he talks about how in WCW's dying days Russo thought that pushing comedy angles and characters would save the company which it absolutely did not, it did the exact opposite! I can really see history repeating itself!
TNA was really catching fire summer 2006 with straight forward angles and characters people could get behind, I don't know about you all but kayfabe wise I really couldn't wait for Jarrett to get his ass handed to him by Sting or Joe (both of which had been built superbly). A year and a half later Kurt's champion, presuming I hadn't looked at spoilers I'd have no idea who his next challenger is, surely it should be Joe, Nash or Young after they beat Angle's team at the last PPV (what was the point of that match by the way?) but I'd bet everything I have that none of those guys are involved in the title picture at the next PPV!
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Post by tnarick on Dec 13, 2007 6:50:07 GMT -5
Vince Russo does not have 100% control but he has a nice bit of input now on iMPACT! and it is really starting to show improvement. TNA was able to make up with new viewers who switched over to ECW on Thursday and still get a 1.1 They probably would have got a 1.4 last week if ECW wasn't on.
The top feud that ever happened in TNA is considered Raven vs. Jarrett which is when Vince Russo had the books. It goes to prove how creative the man really is.. not Vince Mcmahon or Paul Heyman. VINCE RUSSO. He increased TNA Weekly PPV buyrrates from If my memory serves correct 40% after just about a month with the last great stable in wrestling S.E.X.
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