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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Mar 10, 2008 1:33:53 GMT -5
You insulted me by saying that you lost 5 IQ points after reading my post then turn around and cry because I said that your IQ is now -5? Don't throw punches if you can't take them in return buddy! And I suppose saying anyone who has a different opinion than you on something "has nothing better going on in their lives" is a compliment? Please. Right. That's completely unfair. Like calling everyone who lives in America "Americans." That's just a nasty stereotype, right? |
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Post by neongreen on Mar 10, 2008 1:35:56 GMT -5
My IQ just slipped 10 for reading that.
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Post by normcoleman on Mar 10, 2008 3:29:13 GMT -5
I'm a fan
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Mar 10, 2008 5:01:37 GMT -5
You insulted me by saying that you lost 5 IQ points after reading my post then turn around and cry because I said that your IQ is now -5? Don't throw punches if you can't take them in return buddy! I don't believe in this IWC crap.....never have. If you believe in it, then so be it but don't lump everybody together into one group just because they use the internet for pro wrestling purposes. I think there are definite trends that carry a majority opinion on IWC message boards. certain myths etc that you wouldn't get with casual fans or flat out 'marks'. On HHH, I think he is brilliant. One of the best ever. I'm not saying this because he has 'worked me into believing it', I just think he really is. The guy doesn't do bad matches, and puts on a hell of a lot of great ones. Anyone who can say that a guy who was as hated as much as he was, was not one of the biggest stars is just deluding themselves. He was huge. I hated him so so much. He was one of the best heels in recent history. I don't think politics is why he got the belts, why he was booked to look strong or why he is still in Mania main events. When he was a big star - and deservedly so - he was used as the champion a lot, and now he isn't one of the biggest stars and he is used to put others over. There's no conspiracy with that, he does his job, just like any wrestler in his position does. Being an 11 time champion is irrelevant, because the amount of times you hold a title does not indicate how much political stroke you have. Whatever was right for story progression at the time will happen, and his reigns have all served a purpose. I also don't buy that Levesque is desperate to protect his spot and is 'TEH BERRIEZ!'. A lot of people moan about how he made fun of Cena during a promo before Mania 22, and quite frankly it's cringeworthy at how many people buy into that myth. He actually comes out and says 'You're not a very good wrestler...' and people actually think it was like HHH demanded to say it and anyone else would have been powerless to stop it. It was a scripted line, designed to intensify fan love/hate for Cena, and it worked perfectly. It's the people who buy into that myth that are being worked IMO, not the people that rate him for being the true great that he is. |
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Team Rocket
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Post by The Heff on Mar 10, 2008 5:03:16 GMT -5
Never was, never will be.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 10, 2008 5:19:46 GMT -5
I like him. Decent with the mic, great in the ring. One of the best current heels in the WWE.
The "backstage politics" BS really makes no sense. He' s spent the last couple of years launching younger guys to the main-event status and even the title picture (Orton, Batista, Cena, anyone ?) and hasn' t hold a belt in over two years (and don' t give me the No Mercy 07 thing. He lost it again a couple of minutes later).
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Mar 10, 2008 5:43:48 GMT -5
Yes.
I freakin' loved his long title reign in 02/03. The whole pantomime villain schtick he has going on is awesome. He's a hilarious as a face as well.
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Mac
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Mac on Mar 10, 2008 6:36:44 GMT -5
No matter how good he actually is a lot of fans aren't going to like the guy based on his marrying of the bosses daughter. Many a wrestling promotion has been wraught with nepotism and I think it turns a lot of people off. Triple H is REALLY GOOD both as a wrestler and a character. He's not Austin, he's not the Rock, but he's pretty close. I've never seen a wrestler take so much crap from fans for being pushed or praised by the announcers. If there was a logjam at the top of the roster of mega talents who were so much better than Triple H and he was still being pushed at the top I'd be on the anti-Triple H bandwagon too. But as it stands he's one of the best in the company both in terms of being over and in the ring.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Mar 10, 2008 7:34:56 GMT -5
I don't even hate the guy we could pull a thread on another guy I think gets treated way above what he should.
My only issue is the fact that he is treated as if he was the Rock in his prime, and well he wasn't. He is not a super draw by himself he just isn't. He's a good guy to have around because like I said he's "old reliable". I should have said this long before to clarify that, I think he's in the old Bret Hart spot of some years ago. He may not be champion at the moment but he always hangs around because he's old reliable. He'll never leave, he'll always be there his matches and angles at the very worst will be passable.
Now if you wanna talk about a guy who I think is treated far to well....it's JBL. You'd think that guy was Steve Austin in his prime the perks and the way he is treated.
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salTy
El Dandy
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Post by salTy on Mar 10, 2008 7:46:09 GMT -5
I like him. Decent with the mic, great in the ring. One of the best current heels in the WWE. The "backstage politics" BS really makes no sense. He' s spent the last couple of years launching younger guys to the main-event status and even the title picture (Orton, Batista, Cena, anyone ?) and hasn' t hold a belt in over two years (and don' t give me the No Mercy 07 thing. He lost it again a couple of minutes later). And yet his character 'status' is still intact because they book him like an unstoppable beast even when he's not champ. They always find a way to protect him and never truly lose. That's BS. |
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Mar 10, 2008 7:49:23 GMT -5
I like him. Decent with the mic, great in the ring. One of the best current heels in the WWE. The "backstage politics" BS really makes no sense. He' s spent the last couple of years launching younger guys to the main-event status and even the title picture (Orton, Batista, Cena, anyone ?) and hasn' t hold a belt in over two years (and don' t give me the No Mercy 07 thing. He lost it again a couple of minutes later). And yet his character 'status' is still intact because they book him like an unstoppable beast even when he's not champ. They always find a way to protect him and never truly lose. That's BS. You mean like every single heel in the company is either a chickenshit or a big dumbass......unless H is heel he doesn't get booked that way. |
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salTy
El Dandy
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Post by salTy on Mar 10, 2008 8:02:11 GMT -5
And yet his character 'status' is still intact because they book him like an unstoppable beast even when he's not champ. They always find a way to protect him and never truly lose. That's BS. You mean like every single heel in the company is either a chickencrap or a big dumbass......unless H is heel he doesn't get booked that way. Wrong. When the won the belt at No Mercy, it took a match with Umaga(which he won cleanly by the way), and then ANOTHER match with Orton to finally lose the damn thing. When he "put over" Jeff Hardy a few Raws ago, did he lose to the Swanton like HBK? Nope, it had to be some dumbass roll-up finish followed by a smug HHH reaction acting as if it was some kind of fluke that he lost. |
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Mar 10, 2008 8:04:56 GMT -5
You mean like every single heel in the company is either a chickencrap or a big dumbass......unless H is heel he doesn't get booked that way. Wrong. When the won the belt at No Mercy, it took a match with Umaga(which he won cleanly by the way), and then ANOTHER match with Orton to finally lose the damn thing. When he "put over" Jeff Hardy a few Raws ago, did he lose to the Swanton like HBK? Nope, it had to be some dumbass roll-up finish followed by a smug HHH reaction acting as if it was some kind of fluke that he lost. I've pointed many of those things out.....don't worry though someone will show up to tell you that Hardy wouldn't be over without H..that's what I was told. |
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Marvelously Mediocre
Fry's dog Seymour
Beggin' for a little SWAGGAH!
Haha. What a story Mark.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Mar 10, 2008 8:07:10 GMT -5
well that just proves how good a wrestler he is[/kayfabe]
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Squirrel Master
Hank Scorpio
"Then the Squirrel Master came out of left field and told me I'm his bitch!"
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Post by Squirrel Master on Mar 10, 2008 9:34:25 GMT -5
Triple H always delivers in the ring, say what you will about his character or whatever but he almost never has a bad match. QFT  |
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Mar 10, 2008 9:37:06 GMT -5
Yes, I do.
He's who he is.
Can't hate him for that.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 10, 2008 10:43:02 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by justfromg on Mar 10, 2008 11:02:22 GMT -5
I don't get entertained by his work on WWE programming. I don't know they guy personally therefore don't dislike him whatsoever.
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Post by FCVDave on Mar 10, 2008 11:33:41 GMT -5
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Mar 10, 2008 11:41:43 GMT -5
I don't even hate the guy we could pull a thread on another guy I think gets treated way above what he should. My only issue is the fact that he is treated as if he was the Rock in his prime, and well he wasn't. He is not a super draw by himself he just isn't. He's a good guy to have around because like I said he's "old reliable". I should have said this long before to clarify that, I think he's in the old Bret Hart spot of some years ago. He may not be champion at the moment but he always hangs around because he's old reliable. He'll never leave, he'll always be there his matches and angles at the very worst will be passable. Now if you wanna talk about a guy who I think is treated far to well....it's JBL. You'd think that guy was Steve Austin in his prime the perks and the way he is treated. The guy is an absolute heat magnet as a heel. To say he just isn't a good draw is ridiculous. Ratings went down when he had a long reign, but not BECAUSE he had a long reign, it was because it was a natural downturn along with stars leaving. He was absolutely hated, and people paid to see him lose. As for being 'protected', why does it matter? He's being 'protected' because they want to use him in the Mania main event to make either Orton, Cena or both, look better. He had a smirk on his face after losing to Jeff, because it WAS supposed to be a fluke. Jeff was not meant to look like he was now better than HHH, at the very most he was meant to look like his equal, as it was HHH going to the Mania main event and not Jeff. The reason HHH is going there isn't to feed his own ego, it's to make someone else look good. That's the whole reason he is as protected as he is, because keeping his crediblity strong means someone will look all the better for beating him. If Austin or Rock were still here instead, they would get the same treatment. |
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