The Possum
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Post by The Possum on Jan 5, 2010 15:24:08 GMT -5
Honestly, TNA. Even though I thought the show was kind of gimmicky and I don't really see what Val Venis, Orlando Jordan, and The Nasty Boys are going to do for the company, it was a much better broadcast. Aside from Bret Hart's return, Raw was business as usual from the beginning to the end. And I thought they kind of dropped the ball with Bret as well. His return could have been much more entertaining than, "Hey, I'm here and I want to kiss and make up." TNA had a lot of solid matches, some interesting returns (and some lame ones), they finished up with an angle that made me want to tune in next week, and most importantly, they rewarded wrestling fans with a wrestling product.
Regardless, last night it was fun to be a wrestling fan for the first time in a long time, and I hope Impact goes live on Monday nights every week.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jan 5, 2010 16:28:43 GMT -5
Raw...it had Hornswoggle getting kicked in the head.
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Convoy
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Rusev admits to being a sex addict to large applause.
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Post by Convoy on Jan 5, 2010 16:33:38 GMT -5
Raw
I didn't watch TNA, nor would I ever.
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Hawk Hart
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 5, 2010 16:37:23 GMT -5
Honestly, TNA. Even though I thought the show was kind of gimmicky and I don't really see what Val Venis, Orlando Jordan, and The Nasty Boys are going to do for the company, it was a much better broadcast. Aside from Bret Hart's return, Raw was business as usual from the beginning to the end. And I thought they kind of dropped the ball with Bret as well. His return could have been much more entertaining than, "Hey, I'm here and I want to kiss and make up." TNA had a lot of solid matches, some interesting returns (and some lame ones), they finished up with an angle that made me want to tune in next week, and most importantly, they rewarded wrestling fans with a wrestling product. Regardless, last night it was fun to be a wrestling fan for the first time in a long time, and I hope Impact goes live on Monday nights every week. Orlando Jordon = New Vincent. Bank on it.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jan 5, 2010 16:40:16 GMT -5
Honestly, TNA. Even though I thought the show was kind of gimmicky and I don't really see what Val Venis, Orlando Jordan, and The Nasty Boys are going to do for the company, it was a much better broadcast. Aside from Bret Hart's return, Raw was business as usual from the beginning to the end. And I thought they kind of dropped the ball with Bret as well. His return could have been much more entertaining than, "Hey, I'm here and I want to kiss and make up." TNA had a lot of solid matches, some interesting returns (and some lame ones), they finished up with an angle that made me want to tune in next week, and most importantly, they rewarded wrestling fans with a wrestling product. Regardless, last night it was fun to be a wrestling fan for the first time in a long time, and I hope Impact goes live on Monday nights every week. Orlando Jordon = New Vincent. Bank on it. NEW Vincent? I know it's been years since the cabinet, but....
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Hawk Hart
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Sold his organs.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 5, 2010 16:44:45 GMT -5
Orlando Jordon = New Vincent. Bank on it. NEW Vincent? I know it's been years since the cabinet, but.... Yeah, but with JBL he was more of a man servant, kinda like Jerome and Morris Day. With the Nostalgia World Order he'll be more like Vincent with the Hulkster... BROTHER!
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Post by The Verdict on Jan 5, 2010 16:49:35 GMT -5
When was the last time a crowd chanted WWE, WWE, WWE? I don't ever remember hearing that. It's kind of unwieldy to chant. "Dou-ble-you-Dou-ble-you-Ee" does not flow as well as "Tee-En-Ay." also wwe fans aren't told to be wild and crazy when their on the air
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Jan 5, 2010 17:58:32 GMT -5
The first hour of Impact was horrible.
After the Bret Hart segment, Raw was the same tripe its been for quite some time.
Forced to choose, I actually enjoyed seeing Bret and found TNA to have bungled their big shot as bad as you possibly could have. So, Raw wins?
That said, the Fiesta Bowl was pretty good.
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Post by ohiofan1 on Jan 5, 2010 18:35:16 GMT -5
IMHO, That TNA was basically Wrestlemania 25, a one match show. Besides AJ-Angle, what was truly so great about this show. It had an awful first hour, lackluster debuts and returns, and an awful ending. I can't the same people that bash WM 25 are the same people that praise this show. What is the difference between the two, Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2010 18:45:08 GMT -5
Impact by miles RAW Spent way too much time kissing Bret Hart's ass and I actually enjoyed the matches on Impact
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Post by skiller on Jan 5, 2010 18:55:10 GMT -5
IMHO, That TNA was basically Wrestlemania 25, a one match show. Besides AJ-Angle, what was truly so great about this show. It had an awful first hour, lackluster debuts and returns, and an awful ending. I can't the same people that bash WM 25 are the same people that praise this show. What is the difference between the two, Seriously? What the hell are you talking about? There's always a difference in expectations in an everyday FREE television show and what's billed as the biggest show you have to PAY for. On one hand the TV show doesn't have that expectation of closing out feuds and angles. Essentially what didn't happen at last years mania. A debut live TV show should be used to set up angles and matches for the future. Essentially what happened on the last show. You'd be stupid to expect a Wrestlemania caliber event every week. There's just no comparison here.
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Snowman
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The "Called His Mama at WrestleMania" Guy
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Post by Snowman on Jan 5, 2010 19:04:19 GMT -5
I saw both shows. I saw TNA live and then watched Raw after and I must say TNA by miles. Raw was really, really bad. Except for the start and ending segment everything totally 100% sucked. Seriously. Thanks to this show I am a 100% TNA Fan again. And to the comment with Nasty Boys and Hornswoggle: 1. I don´t like the Nasty Boys either, but I take them anyday over Hornswoggle. I mean the Nastys are trailerpark trash, but Hornswoggle is just retarded. I´d rather take a piss over diarrhea Loved the TNA Show and Jeff Hardy and Flair was a huge f*** you to WWE I really doubt they care that much about TNA hiring a near 70-year-old, and a guy who's..let's just say not entirely reliable as it relates to his lifestyle. Since when has being 60 been "near 70 year old"?
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Post by ohiofan1 on Jan 5, 2010 19:23:41 GMT -5
IMHO, That TNA was basically Wrestlemania 25, a one match show. Besides AJ-Angle, what was truly so great about this show. It had an awful first hour, lackluster debuts and returns, and an awful ending. I can't the same people that bash WM 25 are the same people that praise this show. What is the difference between the two, Seriously? What the hell are you talking about? There's always a difference in expectations in an everyday FREE television show and what's billed as the biggest show you have to PAY for. On one hand the TV show doesn't have that expectation of closing out feuds and angles. Essentially what didn't happen at last years mania. A debut live TV show should be used to set up angles and matches for the future. Essentially what happened on the last show. You'd be stupid to expect a Wrestlemania caliber event every week. There's just no comparison here. I see what you are saying but when you say set up furture angles, is doing the same storyline we already a couple years ago (NWO) that failed a good move?
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 5, 2010 19:29:01 GMT -5
I really doubt they care that much about TNA hiring a near 70-year-old, and a guy who's..let's just say not entirely reliable as it relates to his lifestyle. Since when has being 60 been "near 70 year old"? Hogan might be closer to 60, but he could definitely pass for 70. And I think Jeff Hardy is a big deal, WWE was supposedly wanting him for a match with Punk at Wrestlemania and now he's basically flushed his career away by going to TNA (assuming this isn't just a quick paycheck grab before possibly going to prison)
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Jan 5, 2010 19:35:59 GMT -5
Hulk looked much better than Bret Hart, who looked like he just walked off the set of the newest Night of the Living Dead.
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Post by jalen on Jan 5, 2010 20:47:40 GMT -5
Gotta go with Impact.
Great to see Hogan again, plus the surprise factor of Flair, Hardy, Hall, Waltman, etc, was a nice throwback to the "anything can happen on Monday night" feeling that wrestling has sorely lacked since 2001.
For everyone that is harping about wrestling being stuck in the 90's, look at this way: TNA got its highest rating ever despite going head-to-head with Raw, and its main selling point was Hogan. WWE scored a good rating for them, and their selling point was Bret, Shawn, and Vince.
Maybe, just maybe, the MNW fans are still out there. Not to the extent that they were in 1998-2000, but there is an untapped wrestling audience out there.
I hope Impact moves to Monday premanently. Will only lead to good things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2010 1:04:18 GMT -5
Orlando Jordon = New Vincent. Bank on it. So this is Orlando's future then? {Spoiler}
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 6, 2010 1:09:09 GMT -5
Since when has being 60 been "near 70 year old"? Hogan might be closer to 60, but he could definitely pass for 70. And I think Jeff Hardy is a big deal, WWE was supposedly wanting him for a match with Punk at Wrestlemania and now he's basically flushed his career away by going to TNA (assuming this isn't just a quick paycheck grab before possibly going to prison) Yep, stay young like WWE, whose biggest match going into Wrestlemania will be a street fight between it's 65 year old owner and a stroke victim.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Jan 6, 2010 2:08:48 GMT -5
Impact.
I enjoyed the Kurt Angle-AJ Styles match the most and it had just enough cliffhangers to keep it interesting. There wasn't a need for Flair to come out but he certainly didn't hurt it.
However, RAW had HBK-Bret Hart in a ring for the first time in years and they weren't even wrestling.
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Post by Shogun316 on Jan 6, 2010 8:00:36 GMT -5
raw
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