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Post by moonlight on Jan 4, 2010 23:33:19 GMT -5
Way too many commercials in the first hour, especially between 8:50 and 9....with 5 minutes of commercials and 1 minute of show. I was really hyped up for tonght, but it was a big let down and very predictable to me. The Hogan disrespect for Jeff Jarrett was way over the line. Maybe it's because I'm close to 60 years old, and don't have the same ideas about wrestling as you young kids, but the show I watched was not the show you folks are describing at all. I think it sucked.
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Post by erisi236 on Jan 4, 2010 23:33:44 GMT -5
That cage match will be on TNAs blooper reel for years to come for sure, the Hardy thing was pretty exciting tho'.
I did have fun watching the show as a whole at least.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 4, 2010 23:37:28 GMT -5
Watched most of the first hour. That cage match was terrible. Caught Hogan's interview and went to see Raw.
Everytime I flipped the channel during Raw's commercial, my TV went back in time.
flip.....Hogan flip.......Nasties Flip......Hardy flip.......Hall, Waltman, Nash.......
I didn't pay enough attention to say any thing other than indifferent, but what I saw didn't make me a TNA fan. Too bad.
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Post by cometfan1 on Jan 4, 2010 23:38:17 GMT -5
The first match wasn't good. I flipped between Raw and TNA. I didn't like the way Hogan disrespected Jarrett. TNA has to be TNA, not WCW 2.0. The only person who hadn't stepped up is Hogan and if he is so TNA, why didn't he get in the ring tonight and set the example and see if he could hang with the young guys like he told Jarrett.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 4, 2010 23:38:33 GMT -5
Way too many commercials in the first hour, especially between 8:50 and 9....with 5 minutes of commercials and 1 minute of show. I was really hyped up for tonght, but it was a big let down and very predictable to me. The Hogan disrespect for Jeff Jarrett was way over the line. Maybe it's because I'm close to 60 years old, and don't have the same ideas about wrestling as you young kids, but the show I watched was not the show you folks are describing at all. I think it sucked. The beauty of it was that it was well deserved. He's failed to take the company to the next level, and if the Angle/Jarrett situation is true, nearly lost one of its biggest attractions. You also play off the past tension between Hogan and Jarrett. The fans cheered Hogan when he took on the nWo to say there would be "No easy paychecks", but reacted differently when Jarrett was told the same thing. They set up multi-layered feuds.. situations where a face can be a heel because he's screwing someone they like more. Honestly, no one knows what to expect from Hogan after tonight. Is he the face, is he the hell.. right now he seems to be the man stuck in the middle.. That storyline alone could be gold if they get it right.
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Post by triplealbert on Jan 4, 2010 23:39:34 GMT -5
It was an atrocious show.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 4, 2010 23:43:15 GMT -5
Fans of the Monday night wars loved this show. Fans of TNA marked with every debut and the main event. Casual fans saw the bright red birdcage and the thousands of commercials and changed the channel. From an action viewpoint, everything was mediocre or dull except for Styles/Daniels. Too many surprises to really take in. Before you could scream for Hardy, they went to commercial and forgot him for over a hour. Flair makes a cameo and doesn't show up until the main event. I would had stretch out the debuts to make more impacts with their appearances instead of playing can you top this almost every segment.
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Post by deeks on Jan 4, 2010 23:43:44 GMT -5
Watched most of the first hour. That cage match was terrible. Caught Hogan's interview and went to see Raw. Everytime I flipped the channel during Raw's commercial, my TV went back in time. flip.....Hogan flip.......Nasties Flip......Hardy flip.......Hall, Waltman, Nash....... I didn't pay enough attention to say any thing other than indifferent, but what I saw didn't make me a TNA fan. Too bad. If you are a hardcore WWE fan and loyal to the brand, then tonight wasn't going to change your views. But if you are a casual WWE fan who hasgrown tired with the product then there might have been something you liked. That's who TNA is trying to capture. People sick of WWE. You at least caught parts of the Angle vs Styles classic, right?
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Post by BK From WV on Jan 4, 2010 23:44:13 GMT -5
I'm in the yes but wait and see camp. It entertained me for the three hours it was on which is more than any wrestling show has been able to do in forever. It had its low points but there seemed to be more highs than lows. I wasn't too thrilled to see Jeff Hardy but that was a minor drawback. They have some potential set up but let's see what they do with it.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 4, 2010 23:46:30 GMT -5
It...was interesting. The cage match needs to be stricken from the record forever, as that was just a horrible way to open your "new competitive atmosphere", but they picked it up for most of the night. They've built a decent foundation, now they have to consistently build on it. If they don't, all the good stuff from tonight won't matter at all, even as soon as two or three months from now.
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Post by crash1984 on Jan 4, 2010 23:46:40 GMT -5
I really think TNA could have done a lot more with that first hour. The most important thing when it comes to something new is a good first impression and I feel that TNA could have done more. The steel asylum match was a disaster and I am certain that a lot of people as soon as they seen it decided to tune in Raw at 9:00. Even I debated it and I watch TNA weekly and think Raw is awful. The first problem with the Steel Asylum match was you could not see what was going on. It may have been a great match but if people can not see what is going on what is the point? I really think they would have been better off doing something else such as Ultimate X something to get people to say "Wow that's different and good" Even King of the Mountain would have been a better choice. Also the first match of the night should have had a definite winner or at least waiting a while to have the BS.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 4, 2010 23:46:53 GMT -5
Yes they were, IMHO.
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Post by Error on Jan 4, 2010 23:48:14 GMT -5
I don't get what they were thinking with the Terror Dome match. They have done those on PPV so many times and so well to do that one like that...
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Jan 4, 2010 23:52:35 GMT -5
It felt like some reunion show. Certainly not sustainable in the least. You've already got the pop of the surprise, but now you want Hall and Waltman to work? You want Val Venis to get back over? Is Jeff Hardy going to jail? Will Ric Flair and Hogan lace them up and redo their Australian tour?
I vote that it is a typical Hogan/Bischoff "crash" booking FUBAR fest. You don't build a company on nostalgia or inside smarkiness. I didn't think this was very different than an 99-00 Thunder or Nitro.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 4, 2010 23:52:44 GMT -5
Watched most of the first hour. That cage match was terrible. Caught Hogan's interview and went to see Raw. Everytime I flipped the channel during Raw's commercial, my TV went back in time. flip.....Hogan flip.......Nasties Flip......Hardy flip.......Hall, Waltman, Nash....... I didn't pay enough attention to say any thing other than indifferent, but what I saw didn't make me a TNA fan. Too bad. If you are a hardcore WWE fan and loyal to the brand, then tonight wasn't going to change your views. But if you are a casual WWE fan whose grown tired with the product then there might have been something you liked. That's who TNA who trying to capture. You at least caught parts of the Angle vs Styles classic, right? What if you watch both TNA and WWE every week? Is there a rule stating you can only watch one or the other? I have no loyalty to either, so this "war" seems crazy to me. One side hoping the other fails. That's just plain stupid. TNA really needs a second show just to showcase guys like Beer Money. Because if they have to book a live Monday show every week, the wrestling quality is really going to suffer and turn into Raw. The very show that everyone despise: 60% talking, 20% commercials, 20% quick matches.
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Post by tap on Jan 4, 2010 23:52:47 GMT -5
I thought the show was FUN but I don't think it was a GREAT show, per se. The commercials and then cutting back to a limo shot for a minute then back to commercials, a couple of the quick matches, the Hogan/Jarrett thing which confused the fans, Sting in the rafters, Ric Flair doing... I don't know what, there were a lot of things which hurt the show. At times it DID feel like I was watching Nitro, especially seeing certain faces. I think I enjoyed going back and forth between Raw and Impact more than anything else (and that Raw up here in Canada is delayed 15 minutes made sticking with Impact a lot easier). I really enjoyed the Wolfe/D'Angelo promo and match, and Angle/Styles was pretty good (besides Styles doing what seemed like 4 Styles Clashes...).
I think running Impact on Monday every 2 months or so would be a great shot in the arm for BOTH companies. It wasn't the best foot forward, but I commend TNA for taking the risk to try to go head-to-head with WWE for 2 hours. I more or less tuned out after the first 10-15 minutes of Raw.
Plus, Madison Rayne is ridiculously attractive. The underrated member of TBP.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 4, 2010 23:56:35 GMT -5
If you are a hardcore WWE fan and loyal to the brand, then tonight wasn't going to change your views. But if you are a casual WWE fan whose grown tired with the product then there might have been something you liked. That's who TNA who trying to capture. You at least caught parts of the Angle vs Styles classic, right? What if you watch both TNA and WWE every week? Is there a rule stating you can only watch one or the other? I have no loyalty to either, so this "war" seems crazy to me. One side hoping the other fails. That's just plain stupid. TNA really needs a second show just to showcase guys like Beer Money. Because if they have to book a live Monday show every week, the wrestling quality is really going to suffer and turn into Raw. The very show that everyone despise: 60% talking, 20% commercials, 20% quick matches. If you watch both, then you already know that Impact follows that percentages already. This was Impact as usual. Even the botch cage is something that could have made it on a taped Thursday Impact. Personally, I prefer Impact as usual over Raw as usual.
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Post by justinthedj on Jan 5, 2010 0:04:09 GMT -5
Besides the Steel Asylum, my only other gripe is the bait-and-switching of 2 matches: the Full Metal Mayhem and the Barb Wire Massacre. Although, I'm not too hurt about it because while I was watching, I was bitching that they announced those 2 matches without any prior promotion.
I'd also like to point out that they've got a PPV on the 17th with only one match (with zero build/feud) announced on it (British Invasion vs Morgan/Hernandez), and only one more Impact before the PPV. That more than anything should be ammo enough for the "WCW 2.0" crowd.
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Post by theryno665 on Jan 5, 2010 0:12:05 GMT -5
Bah, there's no "No, but let's wait and see". Yeah, I'd probably vote this as well. I think they succeeded in getting noticed but time will tell whether or not it'll pay off. Even if they get a decent rating from this, they need to maintain it and weeks of shows like tonight's probably won't do it. PS - Shameless Foley Plug for my blog. I just put up an Impact recap for it. Peep it in the sig, yo.
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Post by KEJB on Jan 5, 2010 0:13:31 GMT -5
No. Way to much happened. It was pretty much a clusteryaknow the whole way through. You dont have to blow your load and debut every single person you sign on the same show. It was seriously like they were throwing everything they could out hoping something sticks.
Nasty Boys, Hall, Waltman, Venis.....seriously??
Only TNA originals being mysteriously attacked backstage?Im sorry but there is no reason for the Nasty Boys to be getting over while Beer Money only gets to lay on the floor beaten and bruised.
The Main was quality. All the other matches were so weak. I cant see this bringing in any new fans. I guess some might like it for the novelty, but the ratings werent better the last time dudes like Hall or Waltman were there, and I dont see Nasty Boys or Val bringing in anybody new to warch.
I hated the show.
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