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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Dec 25, 2010 18:51:46 GMT -5
Mike Awesome
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Dec 26, 2010 12:38:59 GMT -5
Shelton Benjamin. Always thought he should of gotten a better push. This. My friend told me that he was pretty much a black AJ Styles. He had all the tools to become successful. But soon WWE stopped utilizing him and he started to not care and half ass it, resulting in him being fodder for top faces like Morrison, Christian and Triple H, and a welcome mat for new superstars like Sheamus, Yoshi Tatsu and Vance Archer. When did Shelton ever half ass anything in the WWE? He was one of the best wrestlers on SD last year and he and Christian were some of the better things to watch on ECW. Where they screwed Shelton over was that every time he got any momentum, the WWE Creative (or whoever is to blame) wouldn't capitalize on it. They did the same thing to MVP and Kofi. What really irrirates me about that is they had the time to push Sheamus, but those three and others got jack all practically. Wrestlers WWE wasted/are wasting: Booker T: I agree with crimsonWolf. Booker T wasn't a good heel (at least until he came up with King Booker) so he and DDP should have been faces. He was over as a face when he first came in but then that match with Bagwell happened and the BS about how WCW wrestlers couldn't work (didn't know that at the time) started. Then they made a fool out of him at WM XIX. There was no reason he couldn't have won the WHC then. It's not like HHH fought Goldberg right away anyways. He went on to have a crappy feud with Nash instead. Disgusting. D-Lo Brown: At one point I thought he would be a future WWF World champ. Then he broke Droz's neck. What I never understood about that one is it was a freak accident. No one could have predicted that fan throwing a water bottle into the ring. Owen Hart injured Austin doing a move that Steve didn't expect and while he was buried for it apparently he was going to be pushed in a major way again before he died. Kofi Kingston: He's not the best wrestler around, but he was over against Orton earlier this year and instead of running with it they buried him. He seems to be doing more on SD at least (liked his tag match with Rey this week). MVP: Enough said. Al Snow: Good wrestler, good on the mic, and I liked his gimmick. When he had that brief feud with the Rock I honestly thought he was going to become a bigger deal but nothing came of it. I even thought that he was the guy who ran over Steve Austin in 1999. DDP: Good wrestler (I don't care if he planned his moves out; it's not like most people could tell anyways) and pretty charismatic. The Diamond Cutter was the best version of that move and if they hadn't decided to turn him into a stalker he would have been fine. If they wanted him as a heel why didn't they get him together with Kanyon during the Invasion? It came off like the WWF completely ignored how guys like DDP acted before they were bought out but that was a problem with pretty much everyone during the Invasion. It would be like if everyone from Marvel (even Spider-Man) suddenly became evil during Marvel vs. DC. Bull Nakano: One of the best wrestlers of her time and she came in with a bang but left with...nothing. She had a cool thing going with Luna Vachon but then she was suddenly gone. I'm sure putting up with the likes of Todd Pettingill's ignorant ass didn't help. Alberto del Rio: Why is he not King of the Ring? Matt Hardy: Whatever you think of him now, he could have been WHC after his feud with MVP. They just needed to build up his cred some more. Nexus: Great idea, and it had decent execution but after Summerslam they were done. It never made sense to me that they would get their revenge on the WWE Superstars (or whatever the hell that team was called) by beating them in matches through countouts and DQs. I lost interest once they did that and the original members got replaced by bland types over time. Shame, because the original beat down was one of the best things WWE had done in a while. Ultimo Dragon: How he was used was shameful. That's all I'm going to say about that. Tori: She pretty much went nowhere after 2000 which was a shame because she was a decent wrestler. I don't know why she never got back with Kane. Essa Rios: They never seemed to do much with him despite his talent. I think making him only be Lita's boyfriend was a mistake. Test: He went from Corporation body guard to Union member to Steph's ex-fiance to random bad guy. He was in trouble when HHH stole his fiance and he basically did nothing about it. He was good for a guy of his size but the WWE didn't seem to care about him after 2000 or so. Molly Holly: Great wrestler but she was wasted simply because of her personal views. Damn shame. Jacqueline: Another great wrestler who rarely did anything after 2001. Her winning the Cruiserweight Championship had potential but then nothing seemed to come of it.
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Post by Trent Valentine on Dec 26, 2010 12:50:38 GMT -5
This. My friend told me that he was pretty much a black AJ Styles. He had all the tools to become successful. But soon WWE stopped utilizing him and he started to not care and half ass it, resulting in him being fodder for top faces like Morrison, Christian and Triple H, and a welcome mat for new superstars like Sheamus, Yoshi Tatsu and Vance Archer. Bull Nakano: One of the best wrestlers of her time and she came in with a bang but left with...nothing. She had a cool thing going with Luna Vachon but then she was suddenly gone. I'm sure putting up with the likes of Todd Pettingill's ignorant ass didn't help. Well, from what I heard, she was supposed to feud with Bertha Faye (Rhonda Singh) for the title while Alundra Blayze takes time off during the summer to get her nose and tits done, but she was found in possession of coke and was fired immediately, so Blayze feuded with Bertha instead.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Dec 26, 2010 18:53:07 GMT -5
I have to agree with the Shelton Benjamin statement, if he was "halfassing" it, he still put on better performances than a good deal of the roster. Benjamin's biggest drawback was the fact that he wasn't strong on the mic, but that never stopped guys like Rey-Rey or Jeff Hardy for being pushed. Benjamin was a hell of a lot over after being drafted to Raw. He even had a winning streak over Triple H and Evolution. He even got some of the largest pops whenever he was in MITB, even when he was a heel. There's no reason the writers couldn't have used ECW to build him up.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 26, 2010 21:05:17 GMT -5
MVP, Christian, Lance Storm, DDP, Kaval, Kidman, Paul London, and Carlito.
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Post by texaswhopper on Dec 26, 2010 21:14:56 GMT -5
For sure. Even I was sold on the idea that that he was going to be a big face star and eventually champ. When I think back about Ahmed Johnson, I think about what could have been.
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Post by TheMole on Dec 27, 2010 0:41:07 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 27, 2010 0:53:51 GMT -5
Mike Awesome and Sean O'Haire should have gotten big pushes right out of the gate after WCW was bought out. They jobbed Awesome out and neutered O'Haire's wrestling style.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 27, 2010 1:33:30 GMT -5
Sean O'Haire (what the heck happened. He could have been a champion) The only thing he had going for him was his look. He was green as hell in the ring and only had a flashy finishing move. Couldn't talk in front of a live camera to save his life. And was a huge dick who ended up beating up his wife or girlfriend (whichever one is was.) Why those short promos for him have gotten the guy such a crazy amount of "could have been" love from people nowadays, I'll never understand. Easy. The parts of a compelling and unique gimmick, a surprising finisher for someone his size, and the look. That led a lot of people to think "oh, just imagine if he could put it all together..." Never mind that if he could, he probably would have by then.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 27, 2010 1:36:14 GMT -5
Mista Media himself Cliff Compton.
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Post by ricardob on Dec 27, 2010 1:53:38 GMT -5
I agree with most of everybody listed. I want to add Bam Bam Bigelow to the list. He was a big guy/ monster that could work. He could destroy jobbers in a squash match, but he could also hold his own pretty well in lengthy matches too. I just think he was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time for both of his WWF runs.
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Post by clashofchampains on Dec 27, 2010 2:29:34 GMT -5
Rob Van Dam. When he won the WWE title in 2006, it was 4 years too late. He should have beaten HHH in 2002. No. In 2001 against Austin.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Dec 27, 2010 2:33:17 GMT -5
D-Lo Brown: At one point I thought he would be a future WWF World champ. Then he broke Droz's neck. What I never understood about that one is it was a freak accident. No one could have predicted that fan throwing a water bottle into the ring. Owen Hart injured Austin doing a move that Steve didn't expect and while he was buried for it apparently he was going to be pushed in a major way again before he died. Was he punished for paralyzing Droz? From what I've heard everyone was doing everything they could to talk him out of just quitting wrestling altogether back then.
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Post by clashofchampains on Dec 27, 2010 2:35:14 GMT -5
AHMED JOHNSON. and i dont want to hear any talk of "eh, he was always injured" that title goes to triple h who's been injured since like 1997. ahmed shoulda been world champ When Ahmed Johnson showed up, he was the most awesomely intimidating presence I had ever seen. So much charisma, so badass. I was sure he would have a great futur. But I noticed that after he was injured the first time, when he came back his timing was completly off, he had gained weight and he seemed like a different wrestler. Even in his feud with Farooque and the Nation of Domination, he wasn't the same guy, he had trouble moving. I think the WWF/E lost faith in him because he couldn't put the time in the gym to lose weight and improve. But booked right, if he would have been more disciplined, Johnson could have been WWF's version of Goldberg.
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Post by wcw on Dec 27, 2010 2:49:31 GMT -5
I hope Daniel Bryan doesn't end up on this list. They aren't using him terribly but they could be doing a lot more with him. Kaval is a pretty bad misuse because they had him in FCW for so long bring him up and fail to push him properly.
Also have to agree with Vader and The Big Show. With Vader it was really weird because he had monster heel written all over him and could have made a productive run. Vader should have gotten the belt in 1996 and been used to put newer stars over in 97-99.
With Show its been well documented why they failed with him.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Dec 27, 2010 6:11:37 GMT -5
I hope Daniel Bryan doesn't end up on this list. They aren't using him terribly but they could be doing a lot more with him. Daniel Bryan definitely doesn't belong on this list. By all accounts he's liked both by the fans and backstage and has been used accordingly.
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Dec 29, 2010 22:23:09 GMT -5
Luke Gallows is the one that immediately comes to mind- I really think he had a lot of potential.
Same with Serena.
I'm also a bit annoyed with how they've been using Drew McIntyre lately- tbh, I'm a huge fan of his and I think he's another one that has a lot of potential. Why he's gone from being the Chosen One to these pretty random matches they've had him in lately, I have no clue.
EDIT: Oh! Adding Tyler Reks in. Don't know much about his wrestling ability, but he's pretty damn scary looking. I was just getting interested, and then he pretty much disappeared from my tv.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 29, 2010 23:37:00 GMT -5
Big Show - His lack of direction can be attributed to his weight gains over the years, but WWE messed his push up with start/stop booking, far too many heel turns (he's never been a convincing heel IMO - I never bought the "waking a sleeping giant" crap) and losses and a boring character when he should have been the next Andre. Look at how Show is now - a very over slightly goofy face who can get serious at any time and easily dominate anyone. That's what he should have been from the beginning and he could have become a major cross over star. I guess when he debuted they were more concerned with feeding people to Austin. It's ironic that Vince has been reported to have said that WCW didn't know how to book a giant, when Show was booked brilliantly in WCW compared to his WWE career. Yes, this is the best way to look at it. In the "What's Next For The Big Show" thread, it's really hard to fathom 10-11 years ago that we'd be at such a loss of direction for this guy. A big guy you're trying to promote as "The World's Largest Athlete" should not have such a lousy win/loss record. He should have been an attraction in and of himself like Andre was. It should be a huge deal to watch the Big Show, but it's not. He's just another wrestler who happens to be a big guy. I don't think its far to compare Big Show to Andre The Giant because it was from different eras. In Andre The Giant's day, you didn't get wrestling 3/4 days a week and he wrestled very sparingly, extending his novelty. Plus, after Andre, why bother capitalizing on another giant when its been done before. Thats like saying Buzz Aldrin's moonlanding was as great as Neil Armstrongs, when really, it dosen't compare. Andre was one of a kind and can be imitated, but never duplicated.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 29, 2010 23:54:43 GMT -5
This. My friend told me that he was pretty much a black AJ Styles. He had all the tools to become successful. But soon WWE stopped utilizing him and he started to not care and half ass it, resulting in him being fodder for top faces like Morrison, Christian and Triple H, and a welcome mat for new superstars like Sheamus, Yoshi Tatsu and Vance Archer. Ultimo Dragon: How he was used was shameful. That's all I'm going to say about that. Tori: She pretty much went nowhere after 2000 which was a shame because she was a decent wrestler. I don't know why she never got back with Kane. Essa Rios: They never seemed to do much with him despite his talent. I think making him only be Lita's boyfriend was a mistake. Test: He went from Corporation body guard to Union member to Steph's ex-fiance to random bad guy. He was in trouble when HHH stole his fiance and he basically did nothing about it. He was good for a guy of his size but the WWE didn't seem to care about him after 2000 or so. Jacqueline: Another great wrestler who rarely did anything after 2001. Her winning the Cruiserweight Championship had potential but then nothing seemed to come of it. Ultimo Dragon - From what I read, the only reason he signed with the WWE was so he can say he worked for them, compete on a Wrestlemania card, and wrestle in Madison Square Garden. They could've done more with him, sure, but if he didn't care about that, why bother? He accomplished what he wanted to and in the end, thats all that matters. Tori - I heard she had attitude problems and wasn't that great of a wrestler, no shame in how she was used. Essa Rios - While the popularity of Lita played a role in him not being used to his full potential, it was his own doing for not wanting to learn English. Plus, he was a light heavyweight, and we all know how WWF/E thinks of them. Test - Ironically enough, they gave him several pushes AFTER Triple H stole his fiance and he didn't get over with any of them. Dosen't make sense really. Give the guy a push, gets over, then at the climax of it, stop using him, then push him a few times after we were told no longer to care about him? The sudden stop of his first push IMO ruined any momentum he could've had. Jacqueline - I agreed WWF/E should've done more with her(just keep her 50000 miles away from a microphone) after her feud with Sable, but hey, a drop in the bucket mistake for them. Also, as far as Shelton Benjamin goes, WWE DID keep pushing him. He was given 3 IC title runs, a US title run, and a generous amount of airtime. He's been exposed enough to the fans for them to get to know him, but despite his superior in-ring skills, he had no personality to get over. What more can the WWE do? They even gave him a manager, and that didn't go so well.
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 30, 2010 11:27:35 GMT -5
Joey Mercury
Daivari - He wasn't unused or anything, but I believe they could have done so much more with the guy. A heat machine who can work. Even if you don't want him to work he can play a great mouth piece. I think the guy was used but still no where near what could have been.
I agree completely that the WWE shouldn't have let Burke go, but I didn't hate his WWE run. During that time ECW was the only WWE show I tried to catch frequently and I think he was given a fairly good shake there. Mic time, match time, and the guy got over, to me at least. He should have won the ECW belt but I think while he was in the E he was a solid mid carder and I enjoyed him.
Cliff Compton
Cabana- of course. I realize humor is subjective but it is still hard for me to grasp why a company that loves humor and entertainment wouldn't give this guy more of a chance.
I also think if Morgan or Gunner Scott would have been kept around they could have been huge for the WWE.
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