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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Aug 17, 2011 8:23:21 GMT -5
There have been many stories about the "Wrestler's Court", where guys like Undertaker, JBL, Hardcore Holly, Benoit and others "police" wrestlers that violate the rules and traditions laid down by the company" in a mock trial. The punishments meted out can range from pranking to paying for other wrestlers' travel expenses.
Do you think this pratice has a place in wrestling as an acceptible form of policing, or do you feel it's a form of bullying or hazing that has no place in the business?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 17, 2011 8:29:58 GMT -5
I think we have no right to say whether it's got a place in the business.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Aug 17, 2011 8:31:07 GMT -5
I think it's more than fair. If you do the crime, you do the time.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 17, 2011 8:42:50 GMT -5
Ever been around jocks? How about actors? Combine the egos of both and you have some pro wrestlers. This sort of thing is probably needed.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Aug 17, 2011 8:47:19 GMT -5
Every business has their own informal, unofficial, "policing" system. That doesn't excuse the severity of some of the punishment, but In an industry that Combines a high level of physicality with a need for trust and cooperation, I can understand why such a system is in place over a formal one.
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Post by Jobes on Aug 17, 2011 8:52:56 GMT -5
They do this in TNA, too. I know this because my favorite wrestler's court case happened there. Daivari had to go to wrestler's court because he got a flight attendent to wish Kip James (Billy Gunn) "a happy 70th birthday" in-flight over the intercom. His punishment was buying the whole roster a round of beer.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2011 8:53:07 GMT -5
Even the military has their own version of unofficial code of conduct and policing. If you suppose to trust someone with your life and well being, you better make sure they understand right or wrong.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 17, 2011 8:53:12 GMT -5
*Tapes fists*
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2011 8:54:37 GMT -5
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Post by Jobes on Aug 17, 2011 8:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Aug 17, 2011 9:34:41 GMT -5
I'd love to see a Wrestler's Court RPG.
JBL's HOTDOG ASSAULT crits would be amazing.
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Post by NashMark on Aug 17, 2011 9:37:25 GMT -5
If WWE does start their own network, I'd love to see them turn Wrestler's Court into a TV show. Bring in JBL as the judge. He could be the new Judge Judy.
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Post by smoot on Aug 17, 2011 9:37:51 GMT -5
They do this in TNA, too. I know this because my favorite wrestler's court case happened there. Daivari had to go to wrestler's court because he got a flight attendent to wish Kip James (Billy Gunn) "a happy 70th birthday" in-flight over the intercom. His punishment was buying the whole roster a round of beer. See, now that's funny.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Aug 17, 2011 9:44:52 GMT -5
Well, what about just the general hazing that JBL, Hardcore Holly, Chris Benoit, etc. were said to have done to young/new guys like Palmer Cannon?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 17, 2011 9:49:09 GMT -5
Well, what about just the general hazing that JBL, Hardcore Holly, Chris Benoit, etc. were said to have done to young/new guys like Palmer Cannon? Any of that type of stuff is uncalled for, IMHO, and a relic of a shittier time.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Aug 17, 2011 10:38:09 GMT -5
Well, what about just the general hazing that JBL, Hardcore Holly, Chris Benoit, etc. were said to have done to young/new guys like Palmer Cannon? Any of that type of stuff is uncalled for, IMHO, and a relic of a s***tier time. Yeah that's a whole mother kettle of fish. Wrestler's Court deals with "real" slights (a rib going too far, poor or dangerous conduct etc). The hazing is macho " testing" BS that does nothing but breed contempt from the rookies toward the established talent. Which given the nature of the business has likely occurred already to some extent what with the mentality of "my spot " and such
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Post by Altabane on Aug 17, 2011 10:44:54 GMT -5
Apparently they used to bet on how long it would take to make a diva cry in wrestler's court.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Aug 17, 2011 10:45:00 GMT -5
They do this in TNA, too. I know this because my favorite wrestler's court case happened there. Daivari had to go to wrestler's court because he got a flight attendent to wish Kip James (Billy Gunn) "a happy 70th birthday" in-flight over the intercom. His punishment was buying the whole roster a round of beer. This is why TNA is the community college to the WWE's Ivy League. in WWE the punishment is stuff like "X has to pay Y's travel expenses" in TNA it's "Beer for everyone!"
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 17, 2011 11:02:24 GMT -5
Well, what about just the general hazing that JBL, Hardcore Holly, Chris Benoit, etc. were said to have done to young/new guys like Palmer Cannon? On the level that those guys took it to, it's ridiculous - I think the limit is something like the time they kept lighting Puder up with chops, that's a rite of passage. Crap like dumping bags out in the hall (not to mention other stuff with dumping...) is pathetic. See, I don't blame Holly for what he did to Dupree that time (was Dupree, right?), but there was a good reason for that.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 17, 2011 11:13:55 GMT -5
I think some of you guys are missing the point. This isn't an unofficial policing system. This is grown human beings playing trial like ten year-olds who've just watched A Few Good Men for the first time. It's ridiculous and embarrassing.
And come on, let's not kid ourselves. They're not handing out punishments for real offenses, because the company has actual policies for that stuff. You go to wrestler's court when you don't shake the right person's hand or you want to fly first class and stupidly think that you're an adult who can make those sorts of decisions. Christ, didn't one of the Dicks get sent there because he made the horrendous choice to complain to management about his tag team partner and other wrestlers constantly calling him a faggot? And didn't he get fired not long after that, which is rumored to be related to the court's decision?
It's also no coincidence that the names associated with this court... like JBL, Holly, and Benoit... are also the most notorious bullies. This is appalling behavior meant to keep people in their "place" so they can be hazed more easily. Frankly, I'm amazed anyone would even think to defend it.
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