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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Aug 18, 2011 5:47:41 GMT -5
Isnt there a story of how a wrestler was bragging about date raping a woman, and then Bradhsaw ties him up in the shower threatening to rape him, to the point of the guy crying in front of everyone?
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Post by Piccolo on Aug 18, 2011 6:59:51 GMT -5
Wait, so Joey Styles can drop Bradshaw, but Bradshaw can sodomize Khali? Styles can sucker-punch Bradshaw when he's drunk, yes. Whether you think that equates to Bradshaw being totally helpless at all times is up to you.
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Aug 18, 2011 7:34:22 GMT -5
Has there ever been any stories of triple H or HBK being brought in to Wrestler's Court? or is it like the checks and balances and they bypass it by going straight to Vince?
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Aug 18, 2011 7:43:52 GMT -5
I'd be pretty surprised to hear anything terrible come out of the current roster in a wrestler's court. This generation of talent seems quite a bit less wild in their personal lives than the previous one, and I think the current WWE corporate structure probably came down hard on the concept at some time. (wild speculation on my part, but eh).
If the court was as bad as it is rumored I think it was only a matter of time before someone sued them for having a hostile work environment, and the story got picked up by some new agencies that love to dig up dirt on the wrestling industry.
My own personal opinion? Wrestler's court in any form is a crock of s***. WWE is a company. You go there to work. There is no "paying dues". Hasn't been for over 20 years. Carrying bags, giving up seats, ribs, paying expenses etc have no place at all in a modern workplace.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Aug 18, 2011 9:27:17 GMT -5
I have no problem with a wrestlers court. There is a difference betwixt hazing settling a difference responsibly. I remember reading about a Wrestlers Court case when Foley and Snow abandoned Holly because there was a fair/carnival/theme park nearby and they wanted to ride some rides.
From what I gather, they were traveling/rooming together so when they left, Holly had to pony up 100% of his own travel, ect. Foley even said that he and Snow were guilty as hell. They had to take care of his travel and room for a couple of days.
What's wrong with that?
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Post by generationxero on Aug 18, 2011 9:32:39 GMT -5
I think we have no right to say whether it's got a place in the business. As paying customers, I think we do.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 18, 2011 9:48:49 GMT -5
I think we have no right to say whether it's got a place in the business. As paying customers, I think we do. Not...really, no. That's like saying we have the right to decide whether the hidden satanic cult with a Ronald McDonald statue that exists inside the kitchen of every McDonald despite us not being able to see it should be painted blue or just glow in the dark. I mean fact is, what they do in their free time is not related to giving us burgers. Don't think too much about that comparison. I certainty didn't.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 18, 2011 9:50:43 GMT -5
Isnt there a story of how a wrestler was bragging about date raping a woman, and then Bradhsaw ties him up in the shower threatening to rape him, to the point of the guy crying in front of everyone? I've heard 2 versions of the story, one involving Brian Christopher and the other involving Duke Droese. so it's probably bullshit, albeit with a kernel of truth.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 18, 2011 11:11:05 GMT -5
As paying customers, I think we do. Not...really, no. That's like saying we have the right to decide whether the hidden satanic cult with a Ronald McDonald statue that exists inside the kitchen of every McDonald despite us not being able to see it should be painted blue or just glow in the dark. I mean fact is, what they do in their free time is not related to giving us burgers. Don't think too much about that comparison. I certainty didn't. Agreed. One can argue whether the notion is archaic and outta place in a company and make valid points for or against that; but when it doesn't have any effect whatever on what's on-screen, it's pretty irrelevant to the audience one way or another.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 18, 2011 11:16:24 GMT -5
Yes, he would get a broomstick up the ass to avoid "wrestler's court". lol. Can we try to be a bit realistic here? You're being a tad melodramatic. And he would seriously f*** Bradshaw up because Bradshaw is probably only tough in his own mind. No, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that someone would be sexually assaulted under threat of keeping their job (which is the only way they support their family in India). Do you really think physical strength is the only way these sorts of things can occur? Jesus, some of you guys are using wrestling logic in real life, and it's creepy. "The situation will involve fighting, and the tallest person will win!"
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Post by The Tee Why on Aug 18, 2011 11:17:14 GMT -5
I think Wrestler's court is fine, but the idea of hazing in the form of this shower stuff Bradshaw would do, hell no. How does that equate if you 'have what it takes'. Maybe someone just doesnt like have hotdog weiners stuck up their bumhole.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 18, 2011 11:23:00 GMT -5
I have no problem with a wrestlers court. There is a difference betwixt hazing settling a difference responsibly. I remember reading about a Wrestlers Court case when Foley and Snow abandoned Holly because there was a fair/carnival/theme park nearby and they wanted to ride some rides. From what I gather, they were traveling/rooming together so when they left, Holly had to pony up 100% of his own travel, ect. Foley even said that he and Snow were guilty as hell. They had to take care of his travel and room for a couple of days. What's wrong with that? The fact that they couldn't work it out personally like freakin' grownups and instead relied on an elaborate, imaginary courtroom fantasy dreamed up by bullies who use it as a way to legitimize their bullying. Basically.
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Post by The QC Loser on Aug 18, 2011 11:31:51 GMT -5
I have no problem with a wrestlers court. There is a difference betwixt hazing settling a difference responsibly. I remember reading about a Wrestlers Court case when Foley and Snow abandoned Holly because there was a fair/carnival/theme park nearby and they wanted to ride some rides. From what I gather, they were traveling/rooming together so when they left, Holly had to pony up 100% of his own travel, ect. Foley even said that he and Snow were guilty as hell. They had to take care of his travel and room for a couple of days. What's wrong with that? The fact that they couldn't work it out personally like freakin' grownups and instead relied on an elaborate, imaginary courtroom fantasy dreamed up by bullies who use it as a way to legitimize their bullying. Basically. So sitting down and talking it out with an objective third person is not grown up? Should they of fought over it or what? The Court is basically just two people have a disagreement and then they have others listen to it and then decide what they think should be done about it. Just like if they had gone to human resources or actually pressed real charges against the other. Just an easier simpler way of settling things.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 18, 2011 11:34:30 GMT -5
Some how this thread went from talking about wrestler's court and became the home of wrestling urban legends and a therapy session.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 18, 2011 12:02:59 GMT -5
Who was it that JBL threatened to sodomize with a broomstick? Duke Drosse? The story goes that JBL and Finlay did unspeakable things to Khali at the King of the Ring 2008 show with a broomstick, leaving Khali on the ground crying in the shower. See, when I heard that story, it just went they were spraying him with a bottle of shampoo, which ended up going in Khali's eyes and Khali being the gentle giant that he is and not understanding what was going on, taking it to heart and crying.
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Post by Lila on Aug 18, 2011 12:48:29 GMT -5
Has there ever been any stories of triple H or HBK being brought in to Wrestler's Court? or is it like the checks and balances and they bypass it by going straight to Vince? In Ivory's recent shoot interview, she talks about one case of Wrestler's Court with HHH as the judge. The case was about the Diva Search girls beating the Divas in the infamous Dodgeball game at Summerslam I think. Normally, Taker is the judge, but for some reason HHH was the judge and Ivory knew something was up becauase of that. As Ivory kept defending the Divas and as the male wrestlers starting to agree with her reasons, Triple H kept trying to shut her up as it went on. To put it short, the point of the trial was to embarass the Divas and for Triple H to get some reward out of it, which is usually beer or something similiar. It was know Triple H stayed at more expensive hotels, so Ivory and the Divas presented him with coupons for some cheap hotel.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Aug 18, 2011 12:52:19 GMT -5
The story goes that JBL and Finlay did unspeakable things to Khali at the King of the Ring 2008 show with a broomstick, leaving Khali on the ground crying in the shower. See, when I heard that story, it just went they were spraying him with a bottle of shampoo, which ended up going in Khali's eyes and Khali being the gentle giant that he is and not understanding what was going on, taking it to heart and crying. Call me a dick but I couldn't stop laughing after reading this version.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Aug 18, 2011 12:54:23 GMT -5
Yes, he would get a broomstick up the ass to avoid "wrestler's court". lol. Can we try to be a bit realistic here? You're being a tad melodramatic. And he would seriously f*** Bradshaw up because Bradshaw is probably only tough in his own mind. No, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that someone would be sexually assaulted under threat of keeping their job (which is the only way they support their family in India). Do you really think physical strength is the only way these sorts of things can occur? Jesus, some of you guys are using wrestling logic in real life, and it's creepy. "The situation will involve fighting, and the tallest person will win!" OK, ignoring the outright outlandishness and unrealistic nature of your "story"... Dude, Khali isn't as dumb as you may think, and I am sure he knows about sexual harassment laws in the US. What you are describing (which is all in your head, btw) is a textbook SH case that would get Bradshaw not only fired, but jail time. And to stop you before you say "Khali isn't from here/doesn't speak the language," do you really think he doesn't have someone who helps him with business practices (lawyer/agent)? Plus, Khali has wrestled elsewhere, and has acted. So I doubt being sodomized would be worth keeping your job. I haven't even gotten to how liked Khali has always been in the locker room, and how Bradshaw (who by this time was retired with a bad back, which to me would make him LESS likely to go after Khali, who was still good enough physically to go in the ring, as he does today) would risk jail time for this, not to mention losing any chance of any outside WWE business he may have had/does have. Plus, we have no confirmation that he has sodomized or "soaped up" anyone. Just urban legends and rumor. I think you are letting your JBL hate (and your imagination) go a wee bit to far.
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Post by skulldouggory on Aug 18, 2011 16:05:02 GMT -5
i read in someone's book (not a wretler but a journo like Scott Keith or someone) who summed up Wrestler's Court as somthing that was created and allowed by Vince because it distracted the Wrestlers from not having or forming an Union.
I hate the whole aspect to it, someone said hazing is a different kettle of fish, but i see it all as the same bunch of bull. They don't realise that whilst WWE is hiring bikini models, doing Diva searches and making clones ibn FCW and brining them up to the main roster without any worldy experience out side a gym in florida, they can't be using their old school techniques and expecting that the new gen of stars to know what paying dues means.
With any dispute or offence it should be taken to Vince's office, not to your peer's who are only in the position because they have been there longer than you.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 18, 2011 16:43:49 GMT -5
OK, ignoring the outright outlandishness and unrealistic nature of your "story"... Dude, Khali isn't as dumb as you may think, and I am sure he knows about sexual harassment laws in the US. What you are describing (which is all in your head, btw) is a textbook SH case that would get Bradshaw not only fired, but jail time. And to stop you before you say "Khali isn't from here/doesn't speak the language," do you really think he doesn't have someone who helps him with business practices (lawyer/agent)? Plus, Khali has wrestled elsewhere, and has acted. So I doubt being sodomized would be worth keeping your job. I haven't even gotten to how liked Khali has always been in the locker room, and how Bradshaw (who by this time was retired with a bad back, which to me would make him LESS likely to go after Khali, who was still good enough physically to go in the ring, as he does today) would risk jail time for this, not to mention losing any chance of any outside WWE business he may have had/does have. Plus, we have no confirmation that he has sodomized or "soaped up" anyone. Just urban legends and rumor. I think you are letting your JBL hate (and your imagination) go a wee bit to far. Dude, I'm not saying it happened. I'm just saying it's not crazy and implausible because Khali is very tall, which is what some people were saying. If whoever originally heard it and posted it into this thread made it up, fine, and we shouldn't send JBL to jail from mere rumors, but we shouldn't think it's impossible. It may be that JBL and Finlay and Batista and everyone else who's been rumored to sexually harass/assault people backstage are all innocent. But, it may be that they just totally always get away with it because of the "boys will be boys!" atmosphere, and because there's a social expectation that veterans and those in authority should and will do whatever they want to embarrass or haze new and less powerful people. And, to tie it back to the original point, that's exactly what wrestler's court is all about, too. Are you guys seriously not at all appalled when you hear about wrestler's court getting Chad Dick fired when he complained about his harassment, or when you hear about them calling a session solely to make Melina cry publicly? This stuff might not be true, but if it is, Jesus Christ.
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