Iron Man 3

[xCompackx]

Apr 25, 2013 16:25:36 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

Apr 24, 2013 19:27:13 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Yeah, I think that's pretty smart for a villain to do, actually. If you think about it more than just "Oh, we don't get to see a battle between Mandarin and Iron Man", it's a pretty clever twist. Also, is it really going to "alienate and annoy" anyone aside from the super-hardcore fans?

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Well, it's far more extreme than most stuff fans get nitpicky over. There's people complaining about silly stuff like dropping the 'S' emblem from Superman's cape or Wolverine being too tall, and then there's stuff like completely overhauling a popular character with no regard to it's integrity as they've done here with Mandarin and as Fox did with Deadpool. Those aren't changes made just because those ideas work better on film, those are changes made to cash in on a popular name character without having to commit to really using said character. It was maddening but understandable with Fox given their track record, but I think people felt safe with Marvel Studios developing their own properties. For the hardcore fans I talked to at my local comic shop, they all seem more disappointed than anything. Who can you trust with your favorite Marvel characters if you can't trust Marvel?

For myself, it doesn't bother me greatly because I've never been a big fan of Iron Man's solo universe, but I can definitely empathize with the fans who are pissed off. What they've done with Mandarin is really the same thing Christopher Nolan did with Dick Grayson/Robin, who is my favorite DC character. It's definitely disappointing as a fan who wants to see their favorite stuff imagined in live-action.

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I mean, I can definitely understand wanting to see Mandarin vs. Iron Man and being disappointed, I just meant to say that I hope people give it a chance and see how it plays out before deciding that they hate it.

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Apr 25, 2013 16:43:13 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

Apr 25, 2013 16:25:36 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Well, it's far more extreme than most stuff fans get nitpicky over. There's people complaining about silly stuff like dropping the 'S' emblem from Superman's cape or Wolverine being too tall, and then there's stuff like completely overhauling a popular character with no regard to it's integrity as they've done here with Mandarin and as Fox did with Deadpool. Those aren't changes made just because those ideas work better on film, those are changes made to cash in on a popular name character without having to commit to really using said character. It was maddening but understandable with Fox given their track record, but I think people felt safe with Marvel Studios developing their own properties. For the hardcore fans I talked to at my local comic shop, they all seem more disappointed than anything. Who can you trust with your favorite Marvel characters if you can't trust Marvel?

For myself, it doesn't bother me greatly because I've never been a big fan of Iron Man's solo universe, but I can definitely empathize with the fans who are pissed off. What they've done with Mandarin is really the same thing Christopher Nolan did with Dick Grayson/Robin, who is my favorite DC character. It's definitely disappointing as a fan who wants to see their favorite stuff imagined in live-action.

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I mean, I can definitely understand wanting to see Mandarin vs. Iron Man and being disappointed, I just meant to say that I hope people give it a chance and see how it plays out before deciding that they hate it.

These following spoilers contain TDKR spoilers as well.

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{Spoiler}As understandable as that is, it might be a bit harder to do. I primarily say this because ALL of the marketing for the film revolved around the Mandarin, almost no marketing is spent on the actual villain of the film, pretty much the vast majority of people are paying to see Iron Man vs. Mandarin.

Now, granted, The Dark Knight Rises ALSO did a switch like this where Bane wasn't the true villain, but at least we got to see Bane and Batman fight twice, so even if he wasn't the final villain, we still got what we paid money to see.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Just got out from seeing it. Enjoyed it, though not as much as 1 and 2. It lacked something that I just can't put my finger on, but I marked out for a few things (like Yinsen's cameo) and I'd still give it a solid 7 out of 10.

My girlfriend loved it, and thinks it's the best one of the trilogy.

[Legion]

Just got back from seeing it.

There were things I really, really liked in this film.

There was one plot twist, the one everyone is already talking about, that I really disliked. Frankly I feel a little trolled by this film for making me expect one thing and then giving me a rather disappointing something else.

["Trickster Dogg" James Jesse]

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Boy, I can't wait to see Tony Stark fight more guys in metal suits! I haven't seen that before! It's not like watching a thematic battle between magic vs. technology would be interesting or anything! That's certainly why I wasn't excited with the Mandarin being in this movie!

[BigBadZ]

When did this movie come out? I originally came in here to ask if Fandango had made a mistake since my IMAX tickets are for May 2 at 9pm but everyone in here has seen it? I'm also having second thoughts on my purchase after the reactions to some of the spoilers (which I will not read)

[andrew8798]

Came out in the UK first

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Apr 25, 2013 19:27:56 GMT -5 BigBadZ said:

When did this movie come out? I originally came in here to ask if Fandango had made a mistake since my IMAX tickets are for May 2 at 9pm but everyone in here has seen it? I'm also having second thoughts on my purchase after the reactions to some of the spoilers (which I will not read)

Came out early in the UK.

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So, because a friend just mentioned the plot making him less interested in seeing it and because I really am not too hyped for the movie anyway (though I fully intend to see it) since I didn't think Iron Man 2 was very good the first time I saw it and the second time it was an outright chore to get through, I decided to look up spoilers and I'm wondering...

For those who've seen the movie, please say things work better in context, because on paper this sounds like a train wreck. Not just the main thing people are talking about, just in general on paper this movie sounds like a mess. Could always work better in context, of course; the original Iron Man wasn't as fun as it was for its brilliantly-structured plot or anything, just curious.

[Sephiroth]

Leaves me with some definite questions about the future of The Avengers. Downey seems disinterested in playing Stark again, so what will they do with Iron Man's role in the overall team? Then again, maybe Downey just needs a break-after having the role pretty much dominate his life for almost a decade, I can understand he'd be a bit burnt on it.

[Rhody Codes]

All talk about a certain plot element aside, I will say that the film has one of my favorite main themes from the Marvel Cinematic Films. It's catchy as all hell and definitely fits Iron Man to a tee.

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Apr 26, 2013 23:27:47 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Leaves me with some definite questions about the future of The Avengers. Downey seems disinterested in playing Stark again, so what will they do with Iron Man's role in the overall team? Then again, maybe Downey just needs a break-after having the role pretty much dominate his life for almost a decade, I can understand he'd be a bit burnt on it.

I thought he was just disinterested with doing Iron Man in a solo film? He's still on board to finish out a trilogy of Avengers films, just no more solo films for him.

[Legion]

Apr 26, 2013 23:02:43 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

So, because a friend just mentioned the plot making him less interested in seeing it and because I really am not too hyped for the movie anyway (though I fully intend to see it) since I didn't think Iron Man 2 was very good the first time I saw it and the second time it was an outright chore to get through, I decided to look up spoilers and I'm wondering...

For those who've seen the movie, please say things work better in context, because on paper this sounds like a train wreck. Not just the main thing people are talking about, just in general on paper this movie sounds like a mess. Could always work better in context, of course; the original Iron Man wasn't as fun as it was for its brilliantly-structured plot or anything, just curious.

The movie itself works quite well. Black knows how to get the most from his stars, it's just not the best story and the twist just didnt work for me

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Apr 26, 2013 23:27:47 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Leaves me with some definite questions about the future of The Avengers. Downey seems disinterested in playing Stark again, so what will they do with Iron Man's role in the overall team? Then again, maybe Downey just needs a break-after having the role pretty much dominate his life for almost a decade, I can understand he'd be a bit burnt on it.

His most recent interviews suggest he is looking to do at least one more solo movie, but I would be surprised if it was before Avengers 2.

[Legion]

Having just got back from seeing the film for a second time, I actually found that the twist pissed me off even more the second time than the first because it just ruins a really good set up for something so.....dull. It's a let down.

Equally, while a decent Iron Man film, it was really separate and needed something just to make it a bit more linked to the whole 'phase 2' phase and a Banner cameo after the credits wasnt enough. I didnt expect Ant Man or any other cameo, but aside from the constant mentioning of New York there was nothing to set up anything coming, and the Phase one films all did that so nicely that this not doing that was, well, again, a bit of a let down.

[543Y2J]

Apr 27, 2013 5:35:06 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

Apr 26, 2013 23:27:47 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Leaves me with some definite questions about the future of The Avengers. Downey seems disinterested in playing Stark again, so what will they do with Iron Man's role in the overall team? Then again, maybe Downey just needs a break-after having the role pretty much dominate his life for almost a decade, I can understand he'd be a bit burnt on it.

His most recent interviews suggest he is looking to do at least one more solo movie, but I would be surprised if it was before Avengers 2.

If I was them I would say for him to do his final Iron man film after Avengers 2, and then just have him and the character return for future Avengers films.

In the mean time to fill his gap I would give Hulk his spot. Ruffalo deserves an individual film with the performance he gave in Avengers and how deep he makes the character. This time they should put effort into finding a good director, and have an at least decent script and I am sure the film would be great unlike past efforts. It just makes sense to me, new individual character movie, Downey gets a break before the final individual Iron man film, but still returns for the ensemble films and we finally get a great Hulk movie with a reliable actor.

As far as the movie goes I will put it all in spoilers

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{Spoiler}I enjoyed it, I can see why others didn't but I had a great time. It went at a really fast pace, with the action and comedy never stopping. Like Avengers it felt like it had a nice balance,

I don't know much about IM comic book background or his enemies, as I have been getting into others since I have started collecting and reading. I liked the other two films as popcorn movies and find them entertaining for what they are (though 1 is the better film out of the first two). So the Mandarin thing didn't annoy me as much as it would have if I had been reading IM. What I will say is I enjoyed the scene and was laughing a lot during it, Kingley acted it perfectly.

But the more I think about the more it would have been a better finale if it was him and Ironman instead of Ironman and Killian. I think Guy Pearce did great in the movie and he is one of my favorite actors, but something did feel missing once he took up the main villain role in the movie. Ideally I would have had Ironman and Iron Patriot vs Mandarin (comic book version) and Killian, instead of Ironman and occasional appearances by Iron Patriot vs Killian and his jobber henchmen. That would have been the epic showdown I would have been hoping for, though again I did enjoy the ending scene it just felt like it could have been even better.

The kid was used well, and I was thankful he didn't get involved in the final battle like I worried they were going to do.

As the other Ironman movies didn't have narration I think the post credit scene should have been an actual movie, I enjoyed the scene and I think it would have served more purpose in the actual movie as it would have explained the narration. Saving space for Ant Man or someone else in the post credit scene.

Overall I enjoyed it and it was worthy of being my first midnight screening. Solid 8, just action packed with the comedy being well placed and clever. I feel there should be a bit more unexpected Russo swerves into movies but I think they chose the wrong character with too much of a background in comics (from what I have read) to do it on.

Like I said as an action/comic book movie while watching it I give it an 8. If I begin to think about when not watching it with the plot, and how much better it could have been (specifically for an epic tag team battle final showdown with comic book Mandarin) as well as a couple of other mistakes I would probably give it between a 5 -7. It depends what can of mood I am in I guess, mindless popcorn fun with a few laughs and awesome action scenes, or two villains that could have been used so much better (especially Mandarin) and it could have been a lot better than it was with the potential it had. Definitely getting it on DVD though either way.

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I seen it today and I really enjoyed it I have to say. To be on the safe side though surely at this point people have to be aware of spoilers in this thread but to err on the side of caution

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{Spoiler}Yeah the mandarin swerve really did take me by surprised. I have read a few Iron Man collections but nothing really involving the Mandarin. I do know however how much of an impact he has had in the IM universe and I was interested in seeing how that would play out on the screen so I was slightly disappointed. Having said that after the initial WTF I did enjoy the twist for the most part and felt that it tied into the rest of the story because I was a bit confused on a couple of aspects up till that point. My friend is much more of an avid comic reader than myself but even he enjoyed it. Both of us commented though on the fact that we though the die-hard fans were gonna be pissed

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[Legion]

I just find it weird that they have now introduced 'magic' in technology that can do magic like things - exactly like Mandarin's rings......and yet we get nothing.

I was fully expecting one of his rings to end up being an Infinity Gem or something, to help set up A2 and Thanos.....but no. Just more tech baddies.

[Joker]

Just got back from watching Iron Man 3 thought it was really good. Better than 2 by a long way, on par with 1.

As for how the Mandarin and Extremis is used, it works really well and I had no issues with it.

I'll go into more later when not using my mobile to post.

[Rhody Codes]

Reading up on the twist (despite still planning on seeing the film)...

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{Spoiler}I have to say, it actually fits the tone of the film, with the War on Terror-inspired plot involving the Extremis suicide bombers and stuff. It'd make sense for Killian to create a false icon for Americans to fear and despise, while he does about with his shady operations in the background of the Mandarin-inspired hysteria that's gripped the nation.