the reason Kaitlyn doesn't get pushed more

[Kitty Shamrocks]

That's both insane and f***ed up at the same time.

[That Mickie Fan]

Apr 28, 2012 14:13:35 GMT -5 Smitty said:

Oh come freaking on Mr. McMahon, Kaitlyn is super hot despite not being 66 lbs (like KK or 30 lbs like AJ Lee). I don't mind seeing thickness in my WWE divas (look at Eve for example)

AJ is not 30 Lbs.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Apr 28, 2012 13:35:42 GMT -5 BigWill said:

That makes no sense, seeing as how she's no bigger than Beth, Natalya, or even Tamina.

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Apr 28, 2012 14:37:19 GMT -5 That Mickie Fan said:

Apr 28, 2012 14:13:35 GMT -5 Smitty said:

Oh come freaking on Mr. McMahon, Kaitlyn is super hot despite not being 66 lbs (like KK or 30 lbs like AJ Lee). I don't mind seeing thickness in my WWE divas (look at Eve for example)

AJ is not 30 Lbs.

And KK is 66 lbs? I mean if you're gonna nitpick, let's be consistent.

[paywindah]

Nothing is going to change until Vince is gone. Because the moment he goes, KD will be gone too.

[joemamma1982]

Apr 28, 2012 13:40:00 GMT -5 CH Punk said:

Seems more like a Dunn thing to me as, last I heard, Vince was supposedly high on Kharma (who isn't exactly the smallest woman in the world) and, IIRC, Dunn voiced some dislike of Kaitlyn on that leaked NXT episode with the producer commentary.

What did Dunn say about Kaitlyn??

[Spec_Sun]

Vince is a fool. Anyone that thinks like that deserves to get slapped.... AJ style!

[Indiana Miz]

I don't believe the weight thing is true. Alicia Fox is one of the thinnest wrestlers on the roster and she has spent most of her year on NXT. I think since the Divas of Doom thing wouldn't last much longer and AJ would be with Daniel Bryan, they sent her to NXT since there was nothing for her to do on Smackdown.

I doubt they really think this is a problem.

[Piccolo]

Dang, that's an amazing body.

[grunt]

I'd say bullshit, but somehow, I wouldn't be surprised.

Kaitlyn has changed since NXT, and she has lost some of her muscle (DEM THIGHS are not as big as they were when she debuted). Some of that can be attributed to travel on the road, and all that stuff, but still...

[Todd Pettengill]

She doesn't fit the mold of the WWE, whether you, or I, or whoever, doesn't like that: it doesn't matter. Vince & Ace have an idea of what sort of women they want prominently featured on their shows.
1. she isn't their definition of hot.
2. her hair is a mess.
3. she isn't that good at promos.
4. She is plain awful in the ring (take your rose shaded glasses off).

In summation, I don't think the weight issue should hold her back, but points 3 & 4 justify her not being utilized. She isn't good.

[thelonewolf527]

I blame her ring gear, it makes her look bigger based on the color and what type of attire it is.

She is a bigger girl though so maybe I'm wrong about that. I remember the Mickie James stuff but Mickie always wore the tightest jeans possible that made her look a lot heavier than she really was.

[frogsplash45]

[Todd Pettengill]

Oh there ya go... It's her stupid ass tattoo that's preventing her push.

[usemeplease]

Apr 28, 2012 15:16:36 GMT -5 Todd Pettengill said:

She doesn't fit the mold of the WWE, whether you, or I, or whoever, doesn't like that: it doesn't matter. Vince & Ace have an idea of what sort of women they want prominently featured on their shows.
1. she isn't their definition of hot.
2. her hair is a mess.
3. she isn't that good at promos.
4. She is plain awful in the ring (take your rose shaded glasses off).

In summation, I don't think the weight issue should hold her back, but points 3 & 4 justify her not being utilized. She isn't good.

Okay, got to add my two cents.

Because Vince and Johnny wanting to hire models instead of wrestlers is one of the many reasons why people dont take the Divas division seriously. Some more training would benefit Kaitlyn. Her size and build makes her look like a credible wrestler.

And the points that was made about Kaitlyn can be said about some of the Superstars and other Divas that appears on RAW and SD.

1.) Kharma and Maxine don't fit their so-called beauty standards
2.) Maryse has some of the tackiest extentions in the roster, followed by Alicia
3.) Eve's promo last Monday (4/23) was not that good.
4.) Kelly and the Bellas are not that great in the ring, and they had/have the title.

[PKO]

If anyone's been watching her matches on NXT she's improved dramatically.

[Todd Pettengill]

Apr 28, 2012 15:40:24 GMT -5 usemeplease said:

Apr 28, 2012 15:16:36 GMT -5 Todd Pettengill said:

She doesn't fit the mold of the WWE, whether you, or I, or whoever, doesn't like that: it doesn't matter. Vince & Ace have an idea of what sort of women they want prominently featured on their shows.
1. she isn't their definition of hot.
2. her hair is a mess.
3. she isn't that good at promos.
4. She is plain awful in the ring (take your rose shaded glasses off).

In summation, I don't think the weight issue should hold her back, but points 3 & 4 justify her not being utilized. She isn't good.

Okay, got to add my two cents.

Because Vince and Johnny wanting to hire models instead of wrestlers is one of the many reasons why people dont take the Divas division seriously. Some more training would benefit Kaitlyn. Her size and build makes her look like a credible wrestler.

And the points that was made about Kaitlyn can be said about some of the Superstars and other Divas that appears on RAW and SD.

1.) Kharma and Maxine don't fit their so-called beauty standards
2.) Maryse has some of the tackiest extentions in the roster, followed by Alicia
3.) Eve's promo last Monday (4/23) was not that good.
4.) Kelly and the Bellas are not that great in the ring, and they had/have the title.

Right, but Kharma has a gimmick (Vince loves gimmicks), Maxine dresses like a hooker (Ace loves Hookers!). Maryse's from what I've seen always matched her hair, & Alicia Fox gets away with it because they want her to look like Rihanna (another gimmick). Eve's promo may have sucked, but she's capable of putting on decent/good matches. Kelly & the Bella's have held the title - but they were around a long time before they won them. Kaitlyn will have to be around for a few years before she gets a title run.

I'm not saying she doesn't deserve a shot, but the WWE has made it an uphill battle for her with their double standards.

[norsisclouds]

Apr 28, 2012 15:58:50 GMT -5 Todd Pettengill said:

Apr 28, 2012 15:40:24 GMT -5 usemeplease said:

Okay, got to add my two cents.

Because Vince and Johnny wanting to hire models instead of wrestlers is one of the many reasons why people dont take the Divas division seriously. Some more training would benefit Kaitlyn. Her size and build makes her look like a credible wrestler.

And the points that was made about Kaitlyn can be said about some of the Superstars and other Divas that appears on RAW and SD.

1.) Kharma and Maxine don't fit their so-called beauty standards
2.) Maryse has some of the tackiest extentions in the roster, followed by Alicia
3.) Eve's promo last Monday (4/23) was not that good.
4.) Kelly and the Bellas are not that great in the ring, and they had/have the title.

Right, but Kharma has a gimmick (Vince loves gimmicks), Maxine dresses like a hooker (Ace loves Hookers!). Maryse's from what I've seen always matched her hair, & Alicia Fox gets away with it because they want her to look like Rihanna (another gimmick). Eve's promo may have sucked, but she's capable of putting on decent/good matches. Kelly & the Bella's have held the title - but they were around a long time before they won them. Kaitlyn will have to be around for a few years before she gets a title run.

I'm not saying she doesn't deserve a shot, but the WWE has made it an uphill battle for her with their double standards.

Honestly Maryse's extensions were always terrible. You guys just don't notice because...well you're guys. Women notice these things. Obviously, me noticing it as a female wouldn't affect her push in WWE. It would affect her in Hollywood where she's trying to make a career, because quite frankly people notice those types of little details and things that a wrestling fan is going to over look because she's hot.

I really don't think Eve is capable of putting on a good match, decent maybe but I don't really rank her that highly despite how athletic she is...her wrestling is always off and never quite connects. It's crazy because she has to be up there with Naomi as one of the most athletic women on the roster, but her wrestling always looks so...fake.

I think Kaitlyn does deserve a shot, but has been sidelined because of internal politics or gripes about her look. If WWE can tell Maria to lose weight, I have no doubt they'd have a similar issue with Kaitlyn. Remember, they even authorized the Mickie James/Molly Holly is fat storyline and had commentators talking about how she put on weight. While at other times, they pushed stick thin Ashley Massaro who looked like she hadn't seen a sandwich in years and had no wrestling ability whatsoever.

Kaitlyn getting mistreated for this is entirely possible.

[Todd Pettengill]

Apr 28, 2012 16:05:51 GMT -5 norsisclouds said:

Apr 28, 2012 15:58:50 GMT -5 Todd Pettengill said:

Right, but Kharma has a gimmick (Vince loves gimmicks), Maxine dresses like a hooker (Ace loves Hookers!). Maryse's from what I've seen always matched her hair, & Alicia Fox gets away with it because they want her to look like Rihanna (another gimmick). Eve's promo may have sucked, but she's capable of putting on decent/good matches. Kelly & the Bella's have held the title - but they were around a long time before they won them. Kaitlyn will have to be around for a few years before she gets a title run.

I'm not saying she doesn't deserve a shot, but the WWE has made it an uphill battle for her with their double standards.

Honestly Maryse's extensions were always terrible. You guys just don't notice because...well you're guys. Women notice these things. Obviously, me noticing it as a female wouldn't affect her push in WWE. It would affect her in Hollywood where she's trying to make a career, because quite frankly people notice those types of little details and things that a wrestling fan is going to over look because she's hot.

I really don't think Eve is capable of putting on a good match, decent maybe but I don't really rank her that highly despite how athletic she is...her wrestling is always off and never quite connects. It's crazy because she has to be up there with Naomi as one of the most athletic women on the roster, but her wrestling always looks so...fake.

I think Kaitlyn does deserve a shot, but has been sidelined because of internal politics or gripes about her look. If WWE can tell Maria to lose weight, I have no doubt they'd have a similar issue with Kaitlyn. Remember, they even authorized the Mickie James/Molly Holly is fat storyline and had commentators talking about how she put on weight. While at other times, they pushed stick thin Ashley Massaro who looked like she hadn't seen a sandwich in years and had no wrestling ability whatsoever.

Kaitlyn getting mistreated for this is entirely possible.

I think the first part of your argument is debatable, but I do not disagree with your final point, & I think we agree that she does not fit the WWE brass' mold.

Honestly, Kaitlin would probably be better off in TNA (I can't believe I just typed that), because she really does look like a TNA girl. She would probably improve tenfold in the ring there.

[Juice]

I have always thought this. No lie and no i'm not one to be into tiny skinny anorexic chicks either, but yeah I see their point.