Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 10, 2012 16:00:44 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly is NOT the most marketable Diva. It's just that they have no idea how to market anybody that's unique.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 10, 2012 16:01:34 GMT -5
Kelly is generic, bland, mediocre in the ring and virtually non-existent on the mic
AJ is far more marketable.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 10, 2012 16:03:56 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly has the same problem that Velvet Sky has in that they are super over with the fans, but when they get in the ring...........everything for them falls apart. If either could do a decent job in the ring, then their run would have more legs.......but since they have huge problems in the ring, not even the best booker can hype these two to the point of championship believability.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2012 16:07:37 GMT -5
I can't stand her but I agree with them as well. They are right. She is the most marketable one on the roster. She's the most over and the most liked among the fans, without having to do much of anything. She also gets the most coverage outside of WWE, without them having to do anything to ensure it. The kids chose to vote her in as a choice in the Nickelodian awards etc... WWE did nothing to get her into Maxim, she got noticed and got in on her own. It's in their best interest to keep her, and she's young. If they can knock some sense into her and make her take her training seriously she could rise to be a passable wrestler at some point. Like I said, I can't stand her but if I were them I'd do everything I could to hang onto her as well. This.
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Post by BigWill on Jun 10, 2012 16:09:50 GMT -5
To be considered marketable, you need to at least be able to show personality, with Kelly Kelly has been unable to do. It's one thing when it's just her posing for the camera, but I'd dread seeing her do a live interview or a talk show. Kelly Kelly's only good for eye candy, so have her act as some babyface's valet and help him get over. Save the promoting for a diva that actually has some mic skills.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 10, 2012 16:15:18 GMT -5
We've solved the secret of life. If you're a small, skinny blonde, the world is yours. You can just do anything and people will throw money at you. Though I guess that's not much of a secret.
And let's be honest. The most over diva on the current roster, that's like who has the least smelliest shit. Seriously, as disgusting as that analogy is, the overness with the divas has gone down dramatically. Trish and Lita were really over. Then Mickie was over, but never as much as Trish and Lita. And now Kelly is over, but not as much as Mickie. It's like, soon the sound of one hand clapping will mean somebody is over.
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Post by chiapet22 on Jun 10, 2012 16:16:43 GMT -5
I'm sure the locker room is happy about this, and that's what matters. Not giving your paying customers a product that is at the very least competent.
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Post by greeby on Jun 10, 2012 16:16:56 GMT -5
I hope they can work something out. I figured the main reason for using her real name was so she could do un-PG things like those nude photoshoots that cropped up and not get in trouble by having it tied to the WWE
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Post by KobashiChop on Jun 10, 2012 16:18:09 GMT -5
We've solved the secret of life. If you're a small, skinny blonde, the world is yours. You can just do anything and people will throw money at you. Though I guess that's not much of a secret. Thats really just painfully true.
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Post by norsisclouds on Jun 10, 2012 16:24:10 GMT -5
To be considered marketable, you need to at least be able to show personality, with Kelly Kelly has been unable to do. It's one thing when it's just her posing for the camera, but I'd dread seeing her do a live interview or a talk show. Kelly Kelly's only good for eye candy, so have her act as some babyface's valet and help him get over. Save the promoting for a diva that actually has some mic skills. That's not true at all. Kelly Kelly is marketable. She didn't get on the cover of Maxim because WWE paid them to do it. They approached her on their own and made the offer...and because Kelly got on it one year, that likely had a direct influence on other divas getting noticed enough to get voted on the next year (like Layla--which I am comfortable with assuming was the result of fans who liked her on the Internet voting in because they knew about the Top 100.) She also gets invites to talk shows, photoshoots, etc... all without WWE having to say "Hey we have a diva want to talk to them?" Eve has a personality and is pretty smart, yet she can't seem to get any outside interest. Thus far the same has been true for AJ Lee, who seems bright and personable, Alicia, etc... yet Kelly gets interest without having to do much at all except smile and walk to the ring. Sable, Trish, Chyna, and Lita got similar interest in their rise to popularity among fans. Playboy, Oxygen magazine, FHM, MTV, NBC Studios, FOX all approached those women and WWE gave them permission to take advantage of those offers. Just like the Bella Twins, she's recognizable enough to be associated exclusively with their product in a positive way...(personal rumors aside.) Now if she could just learn not to give an embarrassing interview or run the ropes properly, they'd have Trish 2.0 in the bank.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 10, 2012 16:24:26 GMT -5
We've solved the secret of life. If you're a small, skinny blonde, the world is yours. You can just do anything and people will throw money at you. Though I guess that's not much of a secret. And let's be honest. The most over diva on the current roster, that's like who has the least smelliest s***. Seriously, as disgusting as that analogy is, the overness with the divas has gone down dramatically. Trish and Lita were really over. Then Mickie was over, but never as much as Trish and Lita. And now Kelly is over, but not as much as Mickie. It's like, soon the sound of one hand clapping will mean somebody is over.
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Post by joemamma1982 on Jun 10, 2012 16:48:46 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly has the same problem that Velvet Sky has in that they are super over with the fans, but when they get in the ring...........everything for them falls apart. If either could do a decent job in the ring, then their run would have more legs.......but since they have huge problems in the ring, not even the best booker can hype these two to the point of championship believability. The problem with Velvet is that TNA has 2 other knockouts who are just as over if not more over than her (Tessmacher and Mickie). It wouldn't really hurt TNA if Velvet left because they have a couple of replacements whereas as E doesn't have one for Kelly. Even though Kharma is just as over as Kelly, not too many people want to see Kharma in a bikini. However, I can picture AJ being the next Mickie James if E can push her right.
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Post by norsisclouds on Jun 10, 2012 16:52:42 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly has the same problem that Velvet Sky has in that they are super over with the fans, but when they get in the ring...........everything for them falls apart. If either could do a decent job in the ring, then their run would have more legs.......but since they have huge problems in the ring, not even the best booker can hype these two to the point of championship believability. The problem with Velvet is that TNA has 2 other knockouts who are just as over if not more over than her (Tessmacher and Mickie). It wouldn't really hurt TNA if Velvet left because they have a couple of replacements whereas as E doesn't have one for Kelly. Even though Kharma is just as over as Kelly, not too many people want to see Kharma in a bikini TNA uses Velvet in most of their promotional material though...I don't know if Mickie is as over as Velvet is. I remember when she first debuted in TNA and couldn't get much of a reaction. Sure, things have improved now but I think Velvet is far more over. The crowd seems visibly upset when Velvet loses title shots, though I would agree that Brooke seems closer to Velvet's status now, and Brooke has the bonus of being a much better wrestler than Velvet.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jun 10, 2012 17:00:57 GMT -5
I'm amazed that people are able to convince themselves that the only reason Kelly is over is because she's a hot, skinny blonde. As if WWE totally hasn't hired tons of other hot, skinny blondes over the last decade or so, most of whom went nowhere and faded away within a year or two, tops.
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 10, 2012 17:02:14 GMT -5
I'm amazed that people are able to convince themselves that the only reason Kelly is over is because she's a hot, skinny blonde. As if WWE totally hasn't hired tons of other hot, skinny blondes over the last decade or so, most of whom went nowhere and faded away within a year or two, tops. Name one other thing she has going in her favor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2012 17:03:55 GMT -5
Honestly, I say keeping her couldn't hurt. Yeah, it's not like she blows the roof off the place, but at least the crowd cares about her and that's a hell of a lot more than someone like Beth Phoenix has ever accomplished.
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Post by joemamma1982 on Jun 10, 2012 17:05:04 GMT -5
But E has force fed Kelly to their audience for years (Just like TNA has with Velvet), so I guess many people grew to like her
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 10, 2012 17:07:14 GMT -5
I dont think anyone knows what gets over because it changes drastically. Trish Stratus was blonde, but she was far from skinny. But Kelly Kelly, for some reason, is over, people need to get over that fact, and Kelly herself needs to understand that she could have the world if she learned to accomplish the basic moves.
Same with Velvet Sky.
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Post by Cronant on Jun 10, 2012 17:15:23 GMT -5
I'm amazed that people are able to convince themselves that the only reason Kelly is over is because she's a hot, skinny blonde. As if WWE totally hasn't hired tons of other hot, skinny blondes over the last decade or so, most of whom went nowhere and faded away within a year or two, tops. Seriously. WWE has hired plenty of beautiful women. Plenty of blondes, etc. Its amazing people seem to be acting like all the other women are not pretty and she's just so much hotter that it explains her being over. Keep in mind everytime there's a "hot diva" thread on here she rarely gets votes. She's been there 6 years, and is still only like 25. She's handled the schedule, she'll job to any new heel they want to get over, and without much effort she'll still stay somewhat over. Of course they'd want to keep her.
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Post by joemamma1982 on Jun 10, 2012 17:16:34 GMT -5
I dont think anyone knows what gets over because it changes drastically. Trish Stratus was blonde, but she was far from skinny. But Kelly Kelly, for some reason, is over, people need to get over that fact, and Kelly herself needs to understand that she could have the world if she learned to accomplish the basic moves. Same with Velvet Sky. The thing is that Kelly is NOT that bad in the ring whereas Velvet is a lost cause in the ring, she went to wrestling school and has been wrestling for ten years and is still worse than Rosa Mendes in the ring.
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