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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 7:44:34 GMT -5
He's still outpopping Cena on a regular basis and will be forced to play the face AGAIN at the next PPV.
It doesn't matter who is right or wrong because it is a scripted show where they are *setting someone up* to be right or wrong. It's supposed to be entertaining and make good business sense, or at least one of the two.
This is just outlandishly stupid on all accounts. It's just setting up to be the next chapter in the John Cena career retrospective 18 DVD set titled "Meh, we really should have been able to get more out of this guy."
He will beat Punk, Punk will be lucky to not job 3 times in a row (they are doing a house show run with this into DECEMBER) and he will be EXTREMELY lucky to get a high profile match at either RR or WM. If he does, it'll probably be vs. Rock after a sketchy title re-gain where Cena doesn't take the fall.
Whatever, I don't own the company.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2012 8:52:16 GMT -5
Fans are going to cheer or boo for who they want to anyways. They are going to buy the merch for their favorite wrestlers no matter their affiliations.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 8:55:11 GMT -5
Fans are going to cheer or boo for who they want to anyways. They are going to buy the merch for their favorite wrestlers no matter their affiliations. To a point, but the big crutch WWE uses is stripping away everything that makes people mark for someone. It's really hard to root for a bitter SRS heel, which seems to be the direction here.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2012 9:03:04 GMT -5
Fans are going to cheer or boo for who they want to anyways. They are going to buy the merch for their favorite wrestlers no matter their affiliations. To a point, but the big crutch WWE uses is stripping away everything that makes people mark for someone. It's really hard to root for a bitter SRS heel, which seems to be the direction here. The only real differences from the current "I deserve Respect" Punk and Straight Edge Messiah Punk is the lack of anti-drug promos and loyal disciplines.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 9:06:59 GMT -5
To a point, but the big crutch WWE uses is stripping away everything that makes people mark for someone. It's really hard to root for a bitter SRS heel, which seems to be the direction here. The only real differences from the current "I deserve Respect" Punk and Straight Edge Messiah Punk is the lack of anti-drug promos and loyal disciplines. And that was a boring SRS heel character who had a few moments only because of how good the man behind the character was. It's really the same thing as this, he was a tweener, then a douchebag heel (end of the Hardy feud), and then on to boring heel fodder who drones a message. To me, Punk ceased to be interesting between the end of the Hardy feud and the start of his color commentary run. I thought that was the moment that showed he was capable of being a top face and had a ton to offer. Honestly I didn't think that much of him as a top guy before then because IMO it's far easier to be a heel than a face.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Aug 21, 2012 9:08:47 GMT -5
Im sorry I almost fell asleep last night whilst Cena was rambling on in his usual patronising way, identical in style to a preacher or a politician. So I couldn't really tell you if he Cena did tell Punk the truth.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 9:14:28 GMT -5
I just don't understand spending a year building someone up to turn him to try and leech his face heat back to Cena. Now, try to understand spending a year building someone up, who is your only reasonable alternative to Cena.... and THEN leaching his face heat back to Cena. LOL.
When you make decisions like this, it almost invites bad karma.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Aug 21, 2012 9:24:24 GMT -5
I just don't understand spending a year building someone up to turn him to try and leech his face heat back to Cena. Now, try to understand spending a year building someone up, who is your only reasonable alternative to Cena.... and THEN leaching his face heat back to Cena. LOL. When you make decisions like this, it almost invites bad karma. No, it doesn't. WWE believes fans are easily manipulated however they want to manipulate them. And in most cases, they're right.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 9:27:02 GMT -5
I just don't understand spending a year building someone up to turn him to try and leech his face heat back to Cena. Now, try to understand spending a year building someone up, who is your only reasonable alternative to Cena.... and THEN leaching his face heat back to Cena. LOL. When you make decisions like this, it almost invites bad karma. No, it doesn't. WWE believes fans are easily manipulated however they want to manipulate them. And in most cases, they're right. The bad karma I'm talking about is Cena getting hurt a few months into this experiment, past the point of no return. Of course when you decide all of your eggs go in one basket, this is what you risk. Then they're left with Rey "made out of tape and bubblegum" Mysterio, Randy "one more f***up and I'm fired" Orton and Sheamus, who while I don't think he's sputtering as bad as some people here do, I don't think he's capable of carrying the promotion, either.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Aug 21, 2012 9:35:23 GMT -5
Think back to the Attitude Era. Even with Stone Cold at his peak, they still had guys like DX and Mankind to potentially carry the torch, in the event of an untimely Austin injury.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Aug 21, 2012 9:36:11 GMT -5
Sheamus has the potential to be the next top guy, but they really need to book him in a way that has people giving a shit about him. Maybe the lack of credible heels is the problem as no one cares about ADR and Cody and Dolph aren't at that level yet.
But yeah, they are kind of screwed if something happens to Cena.
On the subject of Punk, as much as it pains me to say this as a fan, maybe he's really not cut out to be the top guy. Not that he can't get a crowd to accept him as such, but I think that all of the political BS that goes along with it (being PC on Twitter, having to always be "on" for fan interactions, the complete abandonment of a personal life) isn't something he's too comfortable with.
Maybe being the top heel is more his thing.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Aug 21, 2012 9:39:18 GMT -5
It was a fantastic promo, and I was right on Cena's side. Right up until Cena's arrogance came in and started to make me feel slightly nauseous.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 21, 2012 9:44:33 GMT -5
Sheamus has the potential to be the next top guy, but they really need to book him in a way that has people giving a s*** about him. Maybe the lack of credible heels is the problem as no one cares about ADR and Cody and Dolph aren't at that level yet. But yeah, they are kind of screwed if something happens to Cena. On the subject of Punk, as much as it pains me to say this as a fan, maybe he's really not cut out to be the top guy. Not that he can't get a crowd to accept him as such, but I think that all of the political BS that goes along with it (being PC on Twitter, having to always be "on" for fan interactions, the complete abandonment of a personal life) isn't something he's too comfortable with. Maybe being the top heel is more his thing. He's gone past the point of avoiding appearences/interactions. I mean this is the old "read HBK to see what he thinks of the booking" game, but he doesn't look exactly thrilled with his program right now. This is another occam's razor exercise. I mean they stripped down the Rock, of all people, to protect Cena, so who is CM Punk in the big picture? They just have an unwavering willingness to protect Cena at all costs. This turn here, if completed, means Cena stays exactly the same for yet another year. And even then, who the hell else is getting built up enough to make them change him?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Aug 21, 2012 9:54:27 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, Punk kicking King's f***ing head in seems like a forced attempt by WWE to say, "Hey, boo this guy! He attacked a defenseless announcer! He's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil!"
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Post by Snaptastic on Aug 21, 2012 10:00:28 GMT -5
Think back to the Attitude Era. Even with Stone Cold at his peak, they still had guys like DX and Mankind to potentially carry the torch, in the event of an untimely Austin injury. Well look at when Austin went out for neck surgery. Rock carried the company on his back with the supporting cast of HHH/Angle/Benoit. That was because he was already built up and was a hugely popular star, yet still playing second fiddle to Austin in many respects. Once Austin was gone it was his time to shine. I hate to say it, but the only way Punk will truly be THE man is if Cena goes out with an injury.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Aug 21, 2012 10:12:03 GMT -5
On a slightly unrelated note, I found it funny that the last image of Punk looking over King's unconscious body was plastered briefly with a promo for WrestleMania on NBC featuring both Cena & The Rock.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2012 10:22:56 GMT -5
On a slightly unrelated note, I found it funny that the last image of Punk looking over King's unconscious body was plastered briefly with a promo for WrestleMania on NBC featuring both Cena & The Rock. Y'know, I was thinking the same thing lol. It just proved CM Punk's point. Even when closing the show, he's still overshadowed and by an on screen graphic no less!
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Post by RKTaker on Aug 21, 2012 10:32:13 GMT -5
This is the same punk as last year with demanding respect remember last year when he demanded respect from mcmahon
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2012 10:37:06 GMT -5
This is the same punk as last year with demanding respect remember last year when he demanded respect from mcmahon Only with less insider references.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2012 12:19:29 GMT -5
This is the same punk as last year with demanding respect remember last year when he demanded respect from mcmahon Only with less insider references. I dunno, referencing Colt Cabana/Gallows is pretty smarky all things considered.
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