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Post by CrazySting on Sept 23, 2013 22:07:58 GMT -5
That was one f***ed up match, especially when all of them started viciously beating down Rollins at the same time.
Be a star, kids!
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 23, 2013 22:08:43 GMT -5
That's how revenge works in WWE, I had no problem with it.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 23, 2013 22:09:18 GMT -5
Hey, Rollins and Ambrose were committing a hate crime against their gay, black friend.
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Post by Lazy peon on Sept 23, 2013 22:09:55 GMT -5
It's what Ryback's been telling us.
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Post by Cronant on Sept 23, 2013 22:10:00 GMT -5
Its against the Shield. They've earned a beatdown like that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 22:10:03 GMT -5
Ryback showed us what happens to bullies earlier, they'll get theirs from even more powerful bullies. It's a vicious cycle.
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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 23, 2013 22:10:32 GMT -5
It always has to be Rollins.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 23, 2013 22:11:48 GMT -5
That beatdown on Rollins was just like the beatings the Shield do every week. I don't see the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 22:12:49 GMT -5
I just want to know how the hell it's taken ten months for someone to think to do that to the Shield.
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Post by Sparkybob on Sept 23, 2013 22:12:58 GMT -5
That beatdown on Rollins was just like the beatings the Shield do every week. I don't see the issue. Pretty much.
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Post by CrazySting on Sept 23, 2013 22:13:00 GMT -5
That beatdown on Rollins was just like the beatings the Shield do every week. I don't see the issue. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 22:13:08 GMT -5
It seems like this era is really relying on big heat moments instead of huge, Austin-style face pops, which would be fine if the payoff happened and the faces ever gave the heels a dose of their own medicine. Months of shows that feature the heels utterly dominating doesn't make a good build, it makes people get sick and tired of it. I'm glad they're letting the faces (well, at least the ones the fans really get behind) get ahead again.
Kayfabe wise, it's good to see the faces growing a spine and not getting their asses handed to them week after week (after week).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 22:14:04 GMT -5
Nah, you had Ambrose and, especially, Reigns taking out lower guys left and right with their finishers. Most of the guys didn't have a chance against the Shield. Quality over quantity.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 23, 2013 22:14:19 GMT -5
That beatdown on Rollins was just like the beatings the Shield do every week. I don't see the issue. Two wrongs don't make a right. You are aware this is wrestling right?
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 23, 2013 22:17:54 GMT -5
I repeat what I said last week: the pay off in a feud is seeing the heel get trashed. The Shield have been built up as the unbeatable heel team by constantly plowing over everyone on the roster, including Bryan, numerous times. Hence the audience explosion upon finally seeing The Shield get a beatdown themselves. Its really not that complicated.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 23, 2013 22:18:06 GMT -5
With the Ryback angle I am reminded of the Groucho line from A Night at the Opera: "Hey you big bully, stop picking on that little bully!" But yeah, this was one of the weirdest matches on Raw in a long time. Who on earth would put the babyfaces at an absurd 11-3 advantage. I know the overall storyline was that HHH put several guys in matches where they got violent beatings, but at the end of the day there were still about 7 fresh bodies. And the booking of that match? Oh lord. Why on earth would the face side allow Van Dam and Kofi to get in the match at all, much less be two of the first guys in there???
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Sept 23, 2013 22:20:53 GMT -5
With the Ryback angle I am reminded of the Groucho line from A Night at the Opera: "Hey you big bully, stop picking on that little bully!" But yeah, this was one of the weirdest matches on Raw in a long time. Who on earth would put the babyfaces at an absurd 11-3 advantage. I know the overall storyline was that HHH put several guys in matches where they got violent beatings, but at the end of the day there were still about 7 fresh bodies. And the booking of that match? Oh lord. Why on earth would the face side allow Van Dam and Kofi to get in the match at all, much less be two of the first guys in there??? But one of those was Zack Ryder, so.....
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 23, 2013 22:20:59 GMT -5
With the Ryback angle I am reminded of the Groucho line from A Night at the Opera: "Hey you big bully, stop picking on that little bully!" But yeah, this was one of the weirdest matches on Raw in a long time. Who on earth would put the babyfaces at an absurd 11-3 advantage. I know the overall storyline was that HHH put several guys in matches where they got violent beatings, but at the end of the day there were still about 7 fresh bodies. And the booking of that match? Oh lord. Why on earth would the face side allow Van Dam and Kofi to get in the match at all, much less be two of the first guys in there??? To emphasize that The Shield are the bad ass team that it takes major odds to beat, and to help make the audience want to see them get beat that much more, giving a major boost to the guys who actually do get the pins on them in the process. This is actually well done booking.
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Post by metylerca on Sept 23, 2013 22:27:55 GMT -5
I repeat what I said last week: the pay off in a feud is seeing the heel get trashed. The Shield have been built up as the unbeatable heel team by constantly plowing over everyone on the roster, including Bryan, numerous times. Hence the audience explosion upon finally seeing The Shield get a beatdown themselves. Its really not that complicated. It is when people like the Shield a lot and are protective of their push. At that point, logic be damned. Don't beat my favorite guys, because that's bad booking!
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 23, 2013 22:29:42 GMT -5
With the Ryback angle I am reminded of the Groucho line from A Night at the Opera: "Hey you big bully, stop picking on that little bully!" But yeah, this was one of the weirdest matches on Raw in a long time. Who on earth would put the babyfaces at an absurd 11-3 advantage. I know the overall storyline was that HHH put several guys in matches where they got violent beatings, but at the end of the day there were still about 7 fresh bodies. And the booking of that match? Oh lord. Why on earth would the face side allow Van Dam and Kofi to get in the match at all, much less be two of the first guys in there??? To emphasize that The Shield are the bad ass team that it takes major odds to beat, and to help make the audience want to see them get beat that much more, giving a major boost to the guys who actually do get the pins on them in the process. This is actually well done booking. But it kind of made the lower carders look weak. Ryder, Gabriel, Titus, and R-Truth all looked like bitches. The only non main eventers that looked good were the Usos and Darren Young for...reasons.
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