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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 21:54:38 GMT -5
Yup. The Cody Rhodes stuff is still golden, but everything else in this storyline is just a complete mess.
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Post by Andy Martin on Oct 6, 2013 21:55:20 GMT -5
Does anybody have the 'Nope' jpeg around?
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Post by paywindah on Oct 6, 2013 21:59:21 GMT -5
Tonight with the crowd behind Bryan at the end of the match was another opportunity to "make him" and they didn't. Now we'll get some awful triple threat with Show and Bryan will be pushed away from the main event.
Vince start-stop booking kills another career.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:01:58 GMT -5
Tonight with the crowd behind Bryan at the end of the match was another opportunity to "make him" and they didn't. Now we'll get some awful triple threat with Show and Bryan will be pushed away from the main event. Vince start-stop booking kills another career. Honestly, it does feel like that might be the only out for this Big Show storyline, with him winning the title meaning Triple H can't fire him until he loses it and it becomes about Orton trying to get the title off of him. Really, it's just amazing how badly they've torpedoed Bryan since SummerSlam. The night after Night of Champions was especially bad for him; the ending with the roster rebelling was cool, even if they've already completely dropped that, but that opening segment with Triple H stripping him of the title with no fanfare and then Orton laying him out effortlessly just made him look pathetic and that's about all he's looked since.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 6, 2013 22:02:02 GMT -5
What bothers me is that guys like John Cena and Sheamus being gone hasn't changed the status quo. With so many guys off of TV, I was hoping that WWE would allow the entire roster to step up, but they aren't. They're just stretching out the screentime of everyone who was being featured or semi-featured anyway.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 6, 2013 22:03:12 GMT -5
Does anybody have the 'Nope' jpeg around? The?There's like hundreds of them out there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:03:48 GMT -5
Screw up based on what? Daniel Bryan not starting another boom period? Bryan took a crowd that was fighting back all night tonight and had them 100% with him. WWE has a new genuine star with him and though there are wrinkles I wouldn't write this off as a failure. Bryan's push has been used to give the whole show a shot in the arm that it sorely needed so while things aren't perfect, it's better than anything WWE's done in years.
People are gonna complain that the fans were ready tonight, but I really doubt most of the people here that were "ready" tonight even paid for the show, and considered this show a write off. There's still no indication in my eyes that WWE aren't saving Bryan's big win for a show that matters.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Oct 6, 2013 22:04:09 GMT -5
I said a while back that we'd get the "Judgement Day" finish tonight.
Next, we'll have a screwy ending at HIAC, which still will leave us w/ no Champion.
Finally, we'll get a tournament for the belt at Survivor Series.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 6, 2013 22:05:25 GMT -5
Screw up based on what? Daniel Bryan not starting another boom period? Bryan took a crowd that was fighting back all night tonight and had them 100% with him. WWE has a new genuine star with him and though there are wrinkles I wouldn't write this off as a failure. Bryan's push has been used to give the whole show a shot in the arm that it sorely needed so while things aren't perfect, it's better than anything WWE's done in years. People are gonna complain that the fans were ready tonight, but I really doubt most of the people here that were "ready" tonight even paid for the show, and considered this show a write off. There's still no indication in my eyes that WWE aren't saving Bryan's big win for a show that matters. Bryan keeps getting screwed over repeatedly. They won't just let him have his moment. And tonight was another example. I was hoping for Big Show to turn heel because I can accept that Bryan can't be in the title picture forever and letting him go after the Big Show and eventually slay the giant would be another notch to put him over huge. But instead they do a double swerve and Big Show is still a face, and I feel that as long as he's a face, no one else is going to get the chance to get over.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:07:04 GMT -5
It's the WWE, that's what they do, it's why all of the analysis and predictions of angles around here is so hilarious because they manage to screw it up 9 times out of 10.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 6, 2013 22:08:41 GMT -5
I always hold hope in these things, but it's apparent even to me that they're struggling to stretch this story and its logical conclusion to the time of the year when it's easiest to do it (Royal Rumble to WrestleMania).
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Post by RedSmile on Oct 6, 2013 22:10:33 GMT -5
Big Show running in to knock everyone out, and simultaneously, make the internet boards explode will keep me laughing for the rest of the week.
#ThanksWWE #ThanksIWC #IamEntertained
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Post by Lancers on Oct 6, 2013 22:10:34 GMT -5
"What are you guys smoking? I thought that ending was the tits!"
- Vince Russo
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:10:59 GMT -5
Screw up based on what? Daniel Bryan not starting another boom period? Bryan took a crowd that was fighting back all night tonight and had them 100% with him. WWE has a new genuine star with him and though there are wrinkles I wouldn't write this off as a failure. Bryan's push has been used to give the whole show a shot in the arm that it sorely needed so while things aren't perfect, it's better than anything WWE's done in years. People are gonna complain that the fans were ready tonight, but I really doubt most of the people here that were "ready" tonight even paid for the show, and considered this show a write off. There's still no indication in my eyes that WWE aren't saving Bryan's big win for a show that matters. I think they're James Storming the shit out of Bryan right now, and it's going to get the point where fans stop caring as much (imo they already have), which will give WWE cold feet and they don't follow through with the big Bryan win, if that ever was the plan to begin with. I want to think like you, and I did for a time, but I think they're running this into the ground. Not helping is that they're having Triple H and everyone else put Bryan down on the mic, and his mic work/what he's scripted to say has not been strong enought combat it. I want to be optimistic, but I think Bryan's ship is close to sailing. If you bought the last 3 PPVs wanting to see Bryan win the belt, he's "had it won" but not come out as champion every time. They've been too heavy-handed with it.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 6, 2013 22:12:33 GMT -5
IMO, they've been screwing up since the end of Summerslam.
Sure, the characters might have moments of value, but overall the path that this is leading to is total shit. They just keep padding the same result over and over. I guess the Cody Rhodes thing had some growth, but both Punk and Bryan seem to be on rerun mode.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:19:15 GMT -5
Screw up based on what? Daniel Bryan not starting another boom period? Bryan took a crowd that was fighting back all night tonight and had them 100% with him. WWE has a new genuine star with him and though there are wrinkles I wouldn't write this off as a failure. Bryan's push has been used to give the whole show a shot in the arm that it sorely needed so while things aren't perfect, it's better than anything WWE's done in years. People are gonna complain that the fans were ready tonight, but I really doubt most of the people here that were "ready" tonight even paid for the show, and considered this show a write off. There's still no indication in my eyes that WWE aren't saving Bryan's big win for a show that matters. I think they're James Storming the shit out of Bryan right now, and it's going to get the point where fans stop caring as much (imo they already have), which will give WWE cold feet and they don't follow through with the big Bryan win, if that ever was the plan to begin with. I want to think like you, and I did for a time, but I think they're running this into the ground. Not helping is that they're having Triple H and everyone else put Bryan down on the mic, and his mic work/what he's scripted to say has not been strong enought combat it. I want to be optimistic, but I think Bryan's ship is close to sailing. If you bought the last 3 PPVs wanting to see Bryan win the belt, he's "had it won" but not come out as champion every time. They've been too heavy-handed with it. I get what you mean, tonight's progression of the story was sloppy, it seemed like it was going somewhere interesting, then Big Show's music hit for some reason and the show ended on a sour note. But if James Storm is the comparison, A: James Storm isn't half as good as Daniel Bryan, and B: A lot of what went wrong with James Storm was they wrote him to give up and go home and that was dumb as hell. I have to give WWE some leeway because they've committed far more energy into this than any of the other big angles that got everyone's hopes up and I think booking wrestling in the 2010s has got to be some of the hardest shit to pull off. We're all very fickle, he wins the title now and it's too soon, he wins it later it's too late, he wins the title and wins too much we've seen enough. I get it, we've been beaten down by what we've had to go through to remain wrestling fans, but like I said, the energy of the shows and the improved (though again, admittedly imperfect) writing has me giving them the benefit of the doubt so far. This isn't over yet, I'm still certain Bryan's moment is coming, Daniel Bryan might fade into the background for a little bit but when his time comes it'll still be magical.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:21:00 GMT -5
I thought we were on the crux of a new generation. I thought WWE was on the rise. Bryan would be on late night TV, PTP would become the black Edge and Christian, Cena would mature as an aged veteran and earn the respect of everyone, JR would somehow return to commentary and King would turn heel, WWE would change the sets of the TV shows, and wrestling would be cool again. Wait... WHAT? Dude, I was one of the main people who was feeling this storyline with The Hunner Administration The Authority becoming the big bads as the arc that leads us into WM, but I dunno. I didn't expect anything like the stuff you say right there. I also didn't expect The Authority to just be Hunner and Stephanie going all SHOOT, BROTHER and cutting the legs off the faces. I probably should have. I expected them to be more like an actual stable guys could fight against...you know, tie together a few storylines...give Miz and Wade Barrett something important to do...have a good Survivor Series tag match out of it...maybe even cap it off with a DBD WM title win...? WWE getting all that much right at one time strains even my credulity, but I do have to admit that Battleground was an awkwardly placed filler PPV and they just had to screw around to continue the feud until at least HIAC. I kinda soured on this thing when the Raw roster rebelled, The Authority cared for about a week and then...I don't know what happened after that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 22:21:25 GMT -5
This angle feels less like building a star in Bryan and more like awful filler until Cena comes back. So yeah, I think the potential of it has been more than ruined.
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Post by RIHT on Oct 6, 2013 22:23:26 GMT -5
I thought we were on the crux of a new generation. I thought WWE was on the rise. Bryan would be on late night TV, PTP would become the black Edge and Christian, Cena would mature as an aged veteran and earn the respect of everyone, JR would somehow return to commentary and King would turn heel, WWE would change the sets of the TV shows, and wrestling would be cool again. Wait... WHAT? Dude, I was one of the main people who was feeling this storyline with The Hunner Administration The Authority becoming the big bads as the arc that leads us into WM, but I dunno. I didn't expect anything like the stuff you say right there. Okay, I was kind of exaggerating, but I still expected the corporate stable....AND THEY SCREWED THAT UP TOO!
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 6, 2013 22:24:08 GMT -5
"Screwed up?" No, not at all. The fact they actually had Daniel Bryan win over John Cena at SummerSlam puts this above a lot of the other failures. I'll even give them Night of Champions because Daniel Bryan HAD to win there. I think the problem is that this is obviously going to end up at WrestleMania and they have so much time to fill that they have to keep adding and adding to it and it gets diluted. Not to say it won't get better once it gets time for Survivor Series, but we still have Hell in a Cell to get through and it's pretty much always been a throwaway PPV. If they had started this at Royal Rumble, it might be different but I think it's still interesting enough to stick with. You just gotta give it time and see where it goes. Or wait for Cena to come back and f*** it up, who knows.
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