mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Oct 31, 2013 18:20:18 GMT -5
I said I'd give it time and not write them off after their debut, but I think its fair now to say that Los Matadores are awful.
Nothing works. The terrible, buzz-kill music, the drawn out intro, the crap finisher, the dated, "why the hell would we cheer for a bullfighter?" Gimmick, the fact they've had the same match every week with 3MB and the fact its just f***ing Primo and Epico in silly masks , two guys no-one has ever cared about, ever.
If it wasn't for the little bull, no-would care now, and wait until he starts getting Hornswoggle levels of attention until his novelty factor well and truly dies.
It's nice to see a real tag team in the 'E, but surely we can do better than this?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 31, 2013 18:24:16 GMT -5
I just don't see why they couldn't have just been pushed as Primo and Epico. Maybe say that they went on hiatus and that they found outnm that the bull was their Spirit Animal or something.
I think Los Matadores would've been better off as ironically heroic heels rather than straight up Babyfaces. We need more heel teams right now. Most of the heel teams are either jobbers or pushed too hard to the point where you cant picture them actually mingling with the tag division all that much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:27:34 GMT -5
They only exist to wrestle 3MB.
That's a big problem with them. No promos, no characters, barely have names/personalities. They just wrestle 3MB and beat up war veterans!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:28:58 GMT -5
I said it on night 1.
Seriously, go back and look at the thread if you don't believe me. I said it was terrible and in a few weeks we'd all be sick of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:32:26 GMT -5
The problem is the gimmick isn't at all focused on Primo and Epico, but just on El Torito, meaning nothing they do in ring will be of any relevance until the bull gets involved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:33:49 GMT -5
I can't say they're terrible, but I'm not really thrilled when they come out to have a match. Primo and Epico can go, so I like them having something to do. The gimmick's just not for me.
Their entrance does remind me of Flash Funk's awkwardly long entrance in 1996, and I thought that was awesome as a kid.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Oct 31, 2013 18:35:41 GMT -5
I said it on night 1. Seriously, go back and look at the thread if you don't believe me. I said it was terrible and in a few weeks we'd all be sick of it. It's not hard to believe. I hated them on their debut as well. I seriously don't know what there is to enjoy.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 31, 2013 18:35:54 GMT -5
I dunno, it's fun but like, they don't talk and only wrestle 3MB. They're like more colorful, less pushed, versions of what Del Rio does but with a midget bull instead of Ricardo being the most entertaining part of the act.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 31, 2013 18:36:44 GMT -5
I don't see them winning tag titles any time soon, but I like them well enough. They're a fun comedy tag team used to give a short break to all the serious storylines going on in the WWE right now. I do wish they had other superstars to wrestle besides 3MB though.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 31, 2013 18:38:36 GMT -5
I think they're awesome
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Post by Injustice45 on Oct 31, 2013 18:38:46 GMT -5
They need a good storyline, and someone to face other than any variant of 3MB.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 31, 2013 18:39:38 GMT -5
Gimmicks like that make me wish the WWE just went ahead and did a kiddies division where those silly characters are only seen on weekend mornings. If I want to see a midget in a bull costume gore a racist old man in the ass, I'd go to a bar in West Texas.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Oct 31, 2013 18:39:49 GMT -5
Primo and Epico were fantastic, they just never had feuds or much mic time at all. I liked that they didn't have a silly gimmick, that they were just Puerto Rican cousins who grew up together that could have exciting matches on any given night. Vince doesn't get subtlety, so they never really had much of a chance to do anything. They did keep the tag belts for awhile, but the tag division was an embarrassment while they were champions, so it was almost by default. I think the last thing of note they did was lose to the New Age Outlaws.
I'm willing to give El Primos a chance, but so far all these 3MB matches are killing them where they stand. The bull is sort of amusing, and it might be the only chance they have at getting this gimmick to get over with a younger demo. It's better than Rosa, at least.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 31, 2013 18:40:14 GMT -5
They're horrible. Only thing I fast forwarded on RAW Monday was their match.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 31, 2013 18:40:24 GMT -5
The problem is the gimmick isn't at all focused on Primo and Epico, but just on El Torito, meaning nothing they do in ring will be of any relevance until the bull gets involved. Step 1:Get El Torioto over. Step 2:Turn him or Hornswoggle heel. Step 3:Feud to promote new Leprechaun movie. Step 4: ? Step 5:Profit
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Post by kevin on Oct 31, 2013 18:42:00 GMT -5
I could not disagree more. Thier entrance music is perfect for them thier finisher is amazing, i love the pointing setup to it. Their in ring work is excellent and El Torito simply adds to an allready amazing package. I think they should be the ones to take the tag titles from the Real Americans, preferable on the wrestle mania pre match. The Real Americans after taking the titles from the Rhodes should fued with the Usos, and PTP, dominating them and any teams they face until they lose to Los Matadores.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 31, 2013 18:45:54 GMT -5
The problem is the gimmick isn't at all focused on Primo and Epico, but just on El Torito, meaning nothing they do in ring will be of any relevance until the bull gets involved. Step 1:Get El Torioto over. Step 2:Turn him or Hornswoggle heel. Step 3:Feud to promote new Leprechaun movie. Step 4: ? Step 5:Profit I wouldn't mind a Hornswoggle/Torito feud if it meant Los Matadores would get to work matches with someone other than Khali.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:51:07 GMT -5
The problem is the gimmick isn't at all focused on Primo and Epico, but just on El Torito, meaning nothing they do in ring will be of any relevance until the bull gets involved. Step 1:Get El Torioto over. Step 2:Turn him or Hornswoggle heel. Step 3:Feud to promote new Leprechaun movie. Step 4: ? Step 5:Profit New boom period
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 31, 2013 18:51:52 GMT -5
The problem is the gimmick isn't at all focused on Primo and Epico, but just on El Torito, meaning nothing they do in ring will be of any relevance until the bull gets involved. Step 1:Get El Torioto over. Step 2:Turn him or Hornswoggle heel. Step 3:Feud to promote new Leprechaun movie. Step 4: ? Step 5:Profit I for one would actually like to see Torito beat up Hornswoggle.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 31, 2013 18:55:19 GMT -5
Primo y Epico weren't exactly exciting and getting a serious push before becoming matadores. I'm glad WWE decided to repackaged them instead of letting them lay in purgatory.
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