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Post by lookout on Nov 3, 2013 12:15:48 GMT -5
It's awful all the way around. The entrance is stupid. The gimmick is stupid and awful (we all know the history of brutality of bullfighters). The announcers trying to get them and the midget over is awful. Their move set throughout the match is bad. And their finisher...wow their finisher...it's just beyond terrible. They are meant to be stupid. It's a fallacy that people think that every wrestler or team needs to be title material. They don't. The card has to be structured from top to bottom. For every Demolition, you need a Bushwhackers. For every Legion of Doom, you need a High Energy That's mostly false and it has already been proven mostly false. Because if that was totally true we would still live in the day and age of squash matches and jobbers. You CAN have an entire division that's competitive and/or at least not have stupid gimmicks. Especially one that is more suited for the 1980s or early 90s than 2013. Coming up with silly gimmicks like this helps no one.
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 3, 2013 12:20:36 GMT -5
It's awful all the way around. The entrance is stupid. The gimmick is stupid and awful (we all know the history of brutality of bullfighters). The announcers trying to get them and the midget over is awful. Their move set throughout the match is bad. And their finisher...wow their finisher...it's just beyond terrible. They are meant to be stupid. It's a fallacy that people think that every wrestler or team needs to be title material. They don't. The card has to be structured from top to bottom. For every Demolition, you need a Bushwhackers. For every Legion of Doom, you need a High Energy I really don't mind them being a comedy act. I defended them as such because I knew this would be about what they'd get once they debuted. My issue is the repetitive matches, the fact that they haven't gotten singles matches yet to establish themselves as individuals... WWE took a gimmick that's limited anyway and managed to run it into the ground in record time.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 3, 2013 12:28:32 GMT -5
First off-we need the inevitable feud with Yge Real Americans.
Second-we need a six man tag match with The Shield, during which Seth Rollins is tagged in against lil Torro, and every time he grabs or lunges the little guy does a flip or cartwheel to avoid him.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 3, 2013 13:49:15 GMT -5
They are meant to be stupid. It's a fallacy that people think that every wrestler or team needs to be title material. They don't. The card has to be structured from top to bottom. For every Demolition, you need a Bushwhackers. For every Legion of Doom, you need a High Energy That's mostly false and it has already been proven mostly false. Because if that was totally true we would still live in the day and age of squash matches and jobbers. You CAN have an entire division that's competitive and/or at least not have stupid gimmicks. Especially one that is more suited for the 1980s or early 90s than 2013. Coming up with silly gimmicks like this helps no one. for most of the Attitude Era you had groups like Kaientai, the Mean Street Posse, Los Boricuas, the DOA, Right to Censor, guys like Mideon. Someone might get a few wins to seem like a threat, then they never win
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 13:55:05 GMT -5
I think they'll go the way of the Funkasaurus. Fun for a little bit, then the entrance gets even longer (because that's what it needs!) and more annoying, then eventually the apathy sets in. Then...well they can't form a tag team with someone else, so maybe they go with my idea of brutally murdering El Torito and turning heel.
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Post by hargh on Nov 3, 2013 14:01:48 GMT -5
I like Rosa's new bull gimmick.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 3, 2013 14:17:28 GMT -5
They are meant to be stupid. It's a fallacy that people think that every wrestler or team needs to be title material. They don't. The card has to be structured from top to bottom. For every Demolition, you need a Bushwhackers. For every Legion of Doom, you need a High Energy That's mostly false and it has already been proven mostly false. Because if that was totally true we would still live in the day and age of squash matches and jobbers. You CAN have an entire division that's competitive and/or at least not have stupid gimmicks. Especially one that is more suited for the 1980s or early 90s than 2013. Coming up with silly gimmicks like this helps no one. It's not false. If anything wrestling NEEDS more jobbers and squash matches. It helps wrestlers get over, and keeps the established big names apart which makes their eventual confrontations more meaningful. An entirely competitive division is detrimental to wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 15:03:23 GMT -5
That's mostly false and it has already been proven mostly false. Because if that was totally true we would still live in the day and age of squash matches and jobbers. You CAN have an entire division that's competitive and/or at least not have stupid gimmicks. Especially one that is more suited for the 1980s or early 90s than 2013. Coming up with silly gimmicks like this helps no one. It's not false. If anything wrestling NEEDS more jobbers and squash matches. It helps wrestlers get over, and keeps the established big names apart which makes their eventual confrontations more meaningful. An entirely competitive division is detrimental to wrestling. Only problem with going back to jobber squashes is you need great commentary to carry the entertainment load. At the time of jobber squashes we had monsoon/heenan and monsoon/ventura. Think about how brutal it would be to watch today where the only aside from the inevitable loss was listening to JBL hype up Los Matadores or something.
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