Essential1
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Post by Essential1 on Nov 11, 2013 6:10:08 GMT -5
Now that's a strong arm...
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Post by lookout on Nov 11, 2013 8:13:55 GMT -5
Picking someone off the mat by their hair or head, especially when the person being picked up is bald. It's especially funny when the person being picked up is supposed to be completely knocked out or nearly completely out of it yet it takes barely any energy at all..just putting your hand on the person's head, for them to get up. I know the rational, i think, is the person is so out of it that it's "instinct" or something but lol.
I once heard the rational behind the irish whip is that the person being whipped goes along with it in hopes of reversing it or doing something back to the other person (similar to what saintpat said) or that it's "a rule" of the game. In other words you HAVE to either run or reverse it in a wrestling match or the promoter/company won't hire you or keep you. Something like that. Hell I guess you could apply that logic to picking someone up but if they are so out of it, how would they even be aware of their surroundings..both in regards to running the ropes or getting picked up.
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AdamAFL was sooooo wrong
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Nov 11, 2013 10:35:07 GMT -5
I also never understood why someone in the Anaconda Vice doesn't just use his free hand to punch the other guy in the head until he lets go of the hold. When Punk won the WWE Title at Survivor Series 2011 Del Rio tried desperately to fish hook and claw at Punk's face before tapping out and I thought it was a really cool aspect to the move and something that should be done more often.
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Post by DMO- on Nov 11, 2013 10:48:21 GMT -5
When big show grabs his opponent by the head while they're standing outside the ring and just pulls them right up onto the apron....
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Post by Unaffiliated on Nov 11, 2013 11:45:15 GMT -5
If talking about physics of the actual move itself, I have to agree that besides the simplest strikes and throws, pretty much any move takes some suspension of disbelief.
If anything, I have a bigger "issue" with how some 2-count moves (especially the superplex) have greater or at least equal impact to some finishers.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Nov 11, 2013 11:46:58 GMT -5
A one handed bulldog.
I hate that move.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 11, 2013 11:48:52 GMT -5
Slingshot.
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Nov 11, 2013 11:52:45 GMT -5
That time Sheamus did an Irish Curse Backbreaker on some steel steps.
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Magnus the Magnificent
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Nov 11, 2013 14:00:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking about moves where if you hit the opponent, you're okay, but if they get away and you only hit the mat, you get hurt. Dropkicking someone and landing on your back. Doesn't hurt. Going to dropkick someone who avoids it, then landing on your back. Hurts a lot. I think the idea is that you transfer some of the energy to the guy/gal you're kicking and then does a controlled landing. If you're just kicking air you supposedly get so surprised that you just crash to the mat without chance of breaking the impact.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Nov 11, 2013 14:36:55 GMT -5
The "missing a dropkick messes you up" thing has always made sense to me. Just like it's easy to fall down from a standing up position but tripping sucks
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 11, 2013 19:59:30 GMT -5
I never understood how Bret Hart's Figure-Four around the ring post was supposed to work. Bret's losing all the leverage that's supposed to make a traditional figure-four effective by giving his opponent the high ground. What joint or muscle are you supposed to be putting pressure on?
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Post by angryfan on Nov 11, 2013 20:24:51 GMT -5
I never understood how Bret Hart's Figure-Four around the ring post was supposed to work. Bret's losing all the leverage that's supposed to make a traditional figure-four effective by giving his opponent the high ground. What joint or muscle are you supposed to be putting pressure on? I think it was once explained that the knee around the post was being pressed into the metal post which did damage, and theoretically all of Bret's weight was being suspended by one of his opponent's ankles. Directional question, but why is a regular suplex not just as deadly as the AA? Only difference is going straight back or basically a forward flip. Same impact. Never got the Indian deathlock, at least the bridging part since you're putting all of your torque into your own ankle. Canadian Destroyer obviously, though as a running move, maybe a counter to the whole duck too early for a back body drop, would work since it's a sunset flip in essence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 20:56:34 GMT -5
One that's been bugging me recently is whenever Scotty Steiner put someone in the Steiner Recliner and they just kept their arms behind Scott's legs. There's nothing keeping your arms stuck there, and you could instead be reaching for the ropes or trying to break Scott's grip on your chin. You've got a clean shot right there at his hands to try and rip them apart.
Also, the Diving Headbutt. Why does it hurt to miss a top rope Splash and crash to the mat, but when your head clips the opponent's chest on the way down, it doesn't have the same effect?
Pedigree. Why do the opponent's feet fly in the air just because Triple H jumps? He's not lifting you.
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Post by jjdash on Nov 11, 2013 21:01:13 GMT -5
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Nov 11, 2013 21:10:07 GMT -5
Splashes in general, they've got to hurt the splasher almost as much as the splashee.But I really don't get how the Shooting Star Press would work better than a normal splash. The guy who splashes does get hurt some, but he bounces up to open air. THe victim is crushed between the attacker and the mat. any move with rotation uses centrifugal force I can buy the 450 adding momentum, but the SSP actually has the guy spinning AWAY from the person he is landing on.
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Post by Wolfaga on Nov 11, 2013 21:17:45 GMT -5
Unprettier/Killswitch makes me all baffled for the sheer fact I am all;
"You realize that the opponent just has to lift his head up and then he's got Christian hooked"
When he does it to bigger guys like Ezekiel Jackson it just gets so so so so so so so stupid
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Post by Starshine on Nov 11, 2013 21:21:07 GMT -5
I like the move enough, but the GTS seems really over complicated for what is essentially a knee to the head.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 11, 2013 21:27:05 GMT -5
Unprettier/Killswitch makes me all baffled for the sheer fact I am all; "You realize that the opponent just has to lift his head up and then he's got Christian hooked" When he does it to bigger guys like Ezekiel Jackson it just gets so so so so so so so stupid Does anyone know if the Killswitch has ever been reversed into a vertabreaker? This must have happened in the indies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 21:30:45 GMT -5
Unprettier/Killswitch makes me all baffled for the sheer fact I am all; "You realize that the opponent just has to lift his head up and then he's got Christian hooked" When he does it to bigger guys like Ezekiel Jackson it just gets so so so so so so so stupid Oh man, I totally forgot this. Even after watching the move all these years, I still haven't figured out the physics on that damn thing.
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Post by Starshine on Nov 11, 2013 21:34:31 GMT -5
The Pedigree.
A) There's no way Triple H could make them leave their feet like they do without them voluntarily jumping.
B) What's to stop the guy from blocking by falling to his knees. There's literally no reason why they couldn't stop the move by doing that. Trips never had such a strong grip on their arms that they couldn't.
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