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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 27, 2014 5:41:16 GMT -5
WWE did Batista no favours last night. They made him look bad too. What a wasted return.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jan 27, 2014 5:53:51 GMT -5
I'd like to know who the hell the WWE thinks wanted him back? Christ if some old guy were to win the thing make it Stone Cold not this piece of crap.
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Post by Chip on Jan 27, 2014 6:03:27 GMT -5
The thing I don't get about the 'ratings pop' argument is, what if the extra viewers tuned in to see what Bryan and the Wyatts were gonna do next after the great ending the week before? There's also potential in people wanting to see if Big Dave was gonna be a heel, considering a lot of people enjoyed him before he left. Now people know he's a face they may not care. |
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Post by machomuta on Jan 27, 2014 6:06:53 GMT -5
Batista won because he is a bigger draw then Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 6:48:27 GMT -5
Because they have no faith in anyone else on the current roster headlining WM30.
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Post by spagett on Jan 27, 2014 6:49:26 GMT -5
Batista won because he is a bigger draw then Bryan. Cena is a bigger draw than Batista. He should have won it. In fact the Royal Rumble should have been won by Hogan. He's probably the biggest draw ever. Hogan vs Orton for Mania!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 6:51:27 GMT -5
Batista won because he is a bigger draw then Bryan. Cena is a bigger draw than Batista. He should have won it. In fact the Royal Rumble should have been won by Hogan. He's probably the biggest draw ever. Hogan vs Orton for Mania!!! Actually, Orton's not much of a draw either. Hogan vs. Austin! |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 27, 2014 6:52:16 GMT -5
So old man Batista won the rumble? WWE f***ed up another angle by ignoring the crowd in return for sitting on their stale status quo.
Remember when WWE gave WCW crap for having washed up, past their prime guys headlining their shows? Kind of funny to thnik of that now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 6:55:25 GMT -5
So old man Batista won the rumble? WWE f***ed up another angle by ignoring the crowd in return for sitting on their stale status quo. Remember when WWE gave WCW crap for having washed up, past their prime guys headlining their shows? Kind of funny to thnik of that now. Pretty much. As much as they like to go on about things like how they just would not drop the nWo or whatever, Hogan is about the only case where they haven't topped WCW at this point in terms of just steadfastly refusing to do anything new. And at least Hogan turned a few times. And it baffles me that there are people who, when faced with a match that was planned for the WrestleMania main event eight years ago are completely okay with it. |
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Post by percymania on Jan 27, 2014 8:27:14 GMT -5
Now that I've slept on it... I'm still confused and upset. What the F were they thinking?!?!
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Post by The Sam on Jan 27, 2014 9:29:31 GMT -5
Cena is a bigger draw than Batista. He should have won it. In fact the Royal Rumble should have been won by Hogan. He's probably the biggest draw ever. Hogan vs Orton for Mania!!! Actually, Orton's not much of a draw either. Hogan vs. Austin! Steve Austin doesn't have a movie coming out, Hogan vs Hogan brother jack!!! |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 27, 2014 9:35:51 GMT -5
I'll second the Guardians of the Galaxy reason. They couldn't get the Rock back this year, so they went for the other "movie star". (Not meant to sound snarky, but I've never even heard of another movie with Batista in it so I find it strange calling him a movie star.) considering the straight-to-DVD schlock that Orton and Cena have been in, Batista is Brad Pitt in comparison. |
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 27, 2014 13:39:12 GMT -5
I have NO CLUE.
Seriously, he's frail and old, he's gassed, he's a massive douche. And above all else, he's no Rock, or even Brock. He's Dave Batista, a former wrestler.
You have guys like The Rock, who left and went into movies. Was he in supporting roles, in direct to DVD movies? No, he was STARRING in these movies, and he's not a bad actor either. He played everything from a serious character to a comedy character. He is a big box office draw and he's made a fantastic career out of WWE. He was able to stay relevant in the mainstream and keep his name out there. When he came back, he got a massive ovation, much bigger than Batista's.
Tan there's BROOOCK LEEEESSSSNAR! The best incarnate. He not only proved to be a freak of nature in the WWE, which led to his iitial push right off the bat. But, he proved himself legit in UFC, by winning the UFC Title. He was as scary and tough as they come. When he came back to the company, the pop was defining. He was a legit bad-ass, and people loved him for it. Sure, did he mock WWE while he was away, yeah. But, he's Brock Lesnar. You won't say anything to his face, he's rip your face off. The guy has an intimidating presence and he's a powerhouse of a man. He, like The Rock, was able to stay in the mainstream world.
Now, Dave Batista did what exactly in the last 4 years? Was in a few direct to DVD movies, had a failed MMA career, and now he's back. And get's the same treatment as Rock and Brock. But why? What did he do to earn that right? Did he prove himself to be a box office draw and big media star? Nope. Did he prove himself to be a legit ass-kicker in UFC? Hell no. So, what does this prove basically? What does pushing a 45 year old Batista accomplish? The only thing is says is, you can work as hard as you want, be as dedicated as you want, being a huge fan of the business, but that's all for not if your from 5 years ago and didn't do anything of note while you were gone.
And there's the people who keep harping on his ONE rating's boost. While, did any of you realize that maybe it's out of curiosity?People that haven't been watching for year could have turned in just to see him again, but by the end of the night ratings were back to normal. Which means many people tuned out. That's not good at all.
Not to mention they advertised him! Imagine if The Rock and/or Brock were advertised to be returning on RAW. I guaran-f***in'tee that The Rokc would have popped a 4.0 rating, maybe even higher. People from 2 decades ago would have turned in to see The Rock back in WWE. Brock probably would have got the same rating, or atleast a very high 3. People would have loved to see what he does back in WWE. So, basically all the people who are gloating over Batista's ratings boost, it's flawed.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 27, 2014 15:12:38 GMT -5
GUYS I HAVE WORKED IT OUT AND FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHY BATISTA WON. PREPARE FOR YOUR MIND TO BE BLOWN  See!!!!...Fully justifiable for him to win...... |
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Post by Branimal on Jan 27, 2014 15:17:09 GMT -5
Because they have no faith in anyone else on the current roster headlining WM30. DING DING DING! |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 27, 2014 15:18:31 GMT -5
Here's a theory: It was most likely put in his contract for him to win the Rumble and headline Mania way back during his negotiations with WWE. They probably were ironing out he details of his contract several months ago, and didn't expect Bryan would sustain his popularity by the Rumble. So they could've been contractually obligated to go through with Batista winning despite what the crowd wanted. If they didn't, they could've had a situation where Batista could threaten to walk or whatever. Ideally, Bryan should already be champion, THEN they book a Batista vs. Bryan feud. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 27, 2014 15:38:35 GMT -5
On the subject of Big Dave's ratings boost: Rock and Brock's ratings boosts started tapering off after a while and, as people have mentioned over and over in this thread, Batista isn't 1/1000 the mainstream star as the other two.
He could bring more ratings boosts, but the pattern and trend is not in his favor at all. It just seems like an unnecessary risk for very little, if any, benefit.
Not to mention how easily gassed he was last night. You'd think after Rock gassing out after about 10 minutes last year they'd make sure a returning star would be in much better ring shape but, if anything, Batista looked WORSE than Rock did. That's quite the accomplishment.
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