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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on May 21, 2014 7:55:42 GMT -5
why not just give Kevin Steen a Zoo Enthusiast gimmick ? Steve Saskatoon, Zookeeper! King Kong Mountie |
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Post by Bad Moon on May 21, 2014 9:17:23 GMT -5
I like Steen, but I can not for the live of me imagine how he would fit in with WWE. It's just like the American Wolves, great wrestler, but the wrong kind of great.
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Post by Abdullah on May 21, 2014 9:23:28 GMT -5
I like Steen, but I can not for the live of me imagine how he would fit in with WWE. It's just like the American Wolves, great wrestler, but the wrong kind of great. He has way more charisma than either of those guys and it didn't help their chances that WWE knows they could probably stick two guys together and end up with a decent tag team. I actually can't remember the last time WWE signed two wrestlers as a package deal; to come in as a tag team. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 21, 2014 9:37:08 GMT -5
I said in a previous Steen thread, His style and Character just doesn't work for wwe, Letting him do what he does best would elicit an M rating. I welcome master of the Package...Roll Up, Jaymin Gruntle. Can't really agree. Steen's matches have great storytelling, head drops or not. His promos are good, swearing or not. When I think of how good Kevin Steen is, I don't think of cluster f-bombs or package piledrivers - I think of him pulling the camera toward his face while El Generico did his pre-match routine, saying, "You don't need to film that!" Or, I think of him telling a brilliant story later in that match where he was thrown around by Jigsaw's lucha moves, tagged out to Generico, came in to hit Jigsaw from behind, and tagged back in to an indignant Generico to begin the heat of the match. Seriously, while Steen thrives on being crude and indyish, he has the basic storytelling chops under that to be a success anywhere. Yeah, if Steen is the real deal, he'll find a way to be exciting within a PG confine the same way the Shield did. And the piledriver needs to go regardless of what company he's with. |
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on May 21, 2014 9:59:52 GMT -5
Can't really agree. Steen's matches have great storytelling, head drops or not. His promos are good, swearing or not. When I think of how good Kevin Steen is, I don't think of cluster f-bombs or package piledrivers - I think of him pulling the camera toward his face while El Generico did his pre-match routine, saying, "You don't need to film that!" Or, I think of him telling a brilliant story later in that match where he was thrown around by Jigsaw's lucha moves, tagged out to Generico, came in to hit Jigsaw from behind, and tagged back in to an indignant Generico to begin the heat of the match. Seriously, while Steen thrives on being crude and indyish, he has the basic storytelling chops under that to be a success anywhere. Yeah, if Steen is the real deal, he'll find a way to be exciting within a PG confine the same way the Shield did. And the piledriver needs to go regardless of what company he's with. I've total faith that he will adapt to the environment if he does indeed go. Steen needs to be edgy but he can easily be edgy within the confines of the WWE product. I disagree that he should drop the Package Piledriver, even though WWE will make him do so due to their piledrive rule, because I don't see at as any more unsafe than 90% of indie moves and about 50% of the moves WWE guys do. Because of the way he holds the recipient it is way safer than your average piledriver as Steen has a lot more control. It's not gonna be the end of the world when he has to stop using it but I just don't think it's necessary. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 21, 2014 10:42:23 GMT -5
This has probably been pointed out before but concerning Steen's character traits being Un-PG like, I'd just like to remind people that Ambrose fought in some brutal death matches in his indy days.
EDIT: Also, if Steen didn't think he'd be able to adapt to a WWE environment, he probably wouldn't have gone to the tryout in the first place.
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Post by Clawley Race on May 21, 2014 10:48:32 GMT -5
One thing with regards to the package piledrvier...how can he handle doing that to bigger opponents?
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 21, 2014 10:53:47 GMT -5
WWE needs to be doing this. Basically, they're bringing in guys with some recognition on the internet. You know what else you need the internet for? WWE Network. So you know what? Maybe guys like KENTA, Prince Devitt and Kevin Steen probably should keep their names. There might be people interested in seeing NXT to see people like that, who do have a bit of a name behind them, it's not much, but it's something. Instead of starting a guy from scratch.
A guy like Sami Zayn, I can see giving him a new name if they didn't want to do El Generico. I can see them giving a new name to PAC because that's a terrible name to begin with, he might be the only wrestler ever to get a better name. But I think they're going way too nuts with the new names for some people, and I think it should at least stop with the group coming in, Steen, Devitt and KENTA.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on May 21, 2014 11:07:11 GMT -5
WWE needs to be doing this. Basically, they're bringing in guys with some recognition on the internet. You know what else you need the internet for? WWE Network. So you know what? Maybe guys like KENTA, Prince Devitt and Kevin Steen probably should keep their names. There might be people interested in seeing NXT to see people like that, who do have a bit of a name behind them, it's not much, but it's something. Instead of starting a guy from scratch. A guy like Sami Zayn, I can see giving him a new name if they didn't want to do El Generico. I can see them giving a new name to PAC because that's a terrible name to begin with, he might be the only wrestler ever to get a better name. But I think they're going way too nuts with the new names for some people, and I think it should at least stop with the group coming in, Steen, Devitt and KENTA. This isn't the bygone eras of wrestling though. People typically have good names that stand out. Steen and Devitt are two of the dullest last names ever. Yes we know WWE *could* keep them but we already know they won't, so the point is moot. Also, the talent have a hand in their new names anyway. And regarding keeping the names for the sake of the Network... Yeah, pretty sure they'll easily find out what their new names are. Won't be too difficult to figure out. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 21, 2014 15:31:59 GMT -5
WWE needs to be doing this. Basically, they're bringing in guys with some recognition on the internet. You know what else you need the internet for? WWE Network. So you know what? Maybe guys like KENTA, Prince Devitt and Kevin Steen probably should keep their names. There might be people interested in seeing NXT to see people like that, who do have a bit of a name behind them, it's not much, but it's something. Instead of starting a guy from scratch. A guy like Sami Zayn, I can see giving him a new name if they didn't want to do El Generico. I can see them giving a new name to PAC because that's a terrible name to begin with, he might be the only wrestler ever to get a better name. But I think they're going way too nuts with the new names for some people, and I think it should at least stop with the group coming in, Steen, Devitt and KENTA. This isn't the bygone eras of wrestling though. People typically have good names that stand out. Steen and Devitt are two of the dullest last names ever. Yes we know WWE *could* keep them but we already know they won't, so the point is moot. Also, the talent have a hand in their new names anyway. And regarding keeping the names for the sake of the Network... Yeah, pretty sure they'll easily find out what their new names are. Won't be too difficult to figure out. When I have to call someone by a different name from what I've known them as, I feel like my intelligence is being insulted. |
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Post by Richard on May 21, 2014 17:21:31 GMT -5
To me Steen's issues won't be language or edgyness but being tied to a script. He's always been a guy that seems to be at his best when he is just going off the cuff. That is where I wonder how he'll do.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on May 21, 2014 17:34:00 GMT -5
This isn't the bygone eras of wrestling though. People typically have good names that stand out. Steen and Devitt are two of the dullest last names ever. Yes we know WWE *could* keep them but we already know they won't, so the point is moot. Also, the talent have a hand in their new names anyway. And regarding keeping the names for the sake of the Network... Yeah, pretty sure they'll easily find out what their new names are. Won't be too difficult to figure out. When I have to call someone by a different name from what I've known them as, I feel like my intelligence is being insulted. Really? That's unfortunate. Wrestlers get repackaged all the time. I can understand you feeling that way when somebody gets a jockstrap thrown on their head and is named Aldo Montoya. I get that. But naming a guy Cesaro when his name is Claudio Castagnoli? That insults your intelligence? Please. Sure, Claudio is original. Castagnoli? Don't make me laugh. Cesaro is better. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 21, 2014 17:39:37 GMT -5
When I have to call someone by a different name from what I've known them as, I feel like my intelligence is being insulted. Really? That's unfortunate. Wrestlers get repackaged all the time. I can understand you feeling that way when somebody gets a jockstrap thrown on their head and is named Aldo Montoya. I get that. But naming a guy Cesaro when his name is Claudio Castagnoli? That insults your intelligence? Please. Sure, Claudio is original. Castagnoli? Don't make me laugh. Cesaro is better. while I liked Claudio it seemed like NO ONE could pronounce Castagnoli correctly. |
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Post by Clawley Race on May 21, 2014 18:01:44 GMT -5
Seeing guys like Triple H, The Undertaker, Kane and Mankind are just a slap in the face...
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on May 21, 2014 18:22:46 GMT -5
When I have to call someone by a different name from what I've known them as, I feel like my intelligence is being insulted. Really? That's unfortunate. Wrestlers get repackaged all the time. I can understand you feeling that way when somebody gets a jockstrap thrown on their head and is named Aldo Montoya. I get that. But naming a guy Cesaro when his name is Claudio Castagnoli? That insults your intelligence? Please. Sure, Claudio is original. Castagnoli? Don't make me laugh. Cesaro is better. I prefer Claudio Castagnoli to be honest. But Cesaro isn't a bad name (I miss Antonio though, I hate one word wrestling names). And honestly I'm okay with WWE changing names as long as they don't saddle the guy with a terrible name, and most of them come out decent despite the jokes. Cesaro, Rollins and Zayn all had better names on the indies in my opinion but their new names are pretty cool too. Whilst you have guys like Ambrose and Bryan who, whilst their indie names were fine I thought, have better names now. Kassius Ohno was terrible but that was Hero's idea so... I really don't see how changing someone's name insults intelligence though, that one is beyond me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 22:22:51 GMT -5
Also any chance well see Kenya walk into wwe as an outside threat and completely destroy the world heavyweight champ and take the title to Japan? Kenya vs Bryan main event at wrestlemania? Iron man match?
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Post by Digital Witness on May 21, 2014 22:34:54 GMT -5
Also any chance well see Kenya walk into wwe as an outside threat and completely destroy the world heavyweight champ and take the title to Japan? Kenya vs Bryan main event at wrestlemania? Iron man match? Not sure if serious. KENTA vs Bryan as a main event would be bad ass though. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 21, 2014 22:49:32 GMT -5
Also any chance well see Kenya walk into wwe as an outside threat and completely destroy the world heavyweight champ and take the title to Japan? Kenya vs Bryan main event at wrestlemania? Iron man match? Not sure if serious. KENTA vs Bryan as a main event would be bad ass though. He clearly wants to see Bryan wrestle a lions and tigers. www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/  |
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Post by Digital Witness on May 21, 2014 22:54:43 GMT -5
Not sure if serious. KENTA vs Bryan as a main event would be bad ass though. He clearly wants to see Bryan wrestle a lions and tigers. www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/ Haha... This reminds me, I haven't watched Weebl and Bob in ages. |
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Post by Essential1 on May 21, 2014 23:39:44 GMT -5
He'll probably be named something like Victor McDaniels.
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