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Post by Some Guy on Jan 15, 2015 10:50:07 GMT -5
Not to completely sidetrack the discussion, but for some celebrities and dignitaries, does one bad thing outweigh dozens of good things? For example, Mother Theresa and Mahatma Gandhi have already been referenced for doing some bad things in their lives, but are those negatives more significant than the countless good they did for the world? On a much, much, MUCH less grand scale than those two, it's like Lance Armstrong. Yes, he's a doper and a liar, but the guy's Livestrong Foundation has also raised more than $500 million in the fight against cancer. Sometimes, you have to wonder whether being a liar and having your Tour de France victories vacated is more important than the half-billion dollars raised to battle cancer. I never said it did, but they were both pretty big pricks who aren't the Saints they are presented as by everyone. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 15, 2015 11:47:39 GMT -5
When you don't hear what a pretentious, humorless prick he is, TBF. Would Johnny Depp count here too? What did Depp do wrong other than past issues with drugs? Never heard of him abusing another person or anything like that. I mean as far as being pretentious. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 15, 2015 11:49:03 GMT -5
Morgan Freeman's statuatory rape of his step granddaughter. He denies this. linkDid he narrate his denial? |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 15, 2015 11:49:27 GMT -5
Matthew Broderick killed a guy in '87 and got off with a $175 fine. Well since he is now trapped in a bestiality marriage, he's paying back society. |
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 15, 2015 11:49:44 GMT -5
What did Depp do wrong other than past issues with drugs? Never heard of him abusing another person or anything like that. I mean as far as being pretentious. Oh, meh. He's apparently extremely nice to fans. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 15, 2015 11:50:06 GMT -5
-Mother Teresa basically let people die because she believed the poor should die in some sensemble Did she do that back when she was hot?  |
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 15, 2015 12:02:28 GMT -5
John Lennon has admitted to beating his wife on several occasions. If it was Yoko, I guess some people would say they excused him. He hit Cynthia too. He was a pretty crappy father too. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 15, 2015 12:19:18 GMT -5
Thing thing I will grant Tyson is that he at least aknowlages his wrongdoings, and seems remorseful |
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 15, 2015 12:29:30 GMT -5
Steve Jobs: acted like such an arrogant prick that his best friend and co-founder refused to ever speak to him again, practically swipe ideas from some of his competitors, and had an illegitimate child he refused to acknowledge for years. But all you hear about is what a visionary and innovator he was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 12:30:34 GMT -5
I mean as far as being pretentious. Oh, meh. He's apparently extremely nice to fans. Dude also carries a Jack Sparrow costume almost everywhere he goes in case he has spare time to make unannounced visits to children hospitals. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2015 12:35:36 GMT -5
Not to completely sidetrack the discussion, but for some celebrities and dignitaries, does one bad thing outweigh dozens of good things? For example, Mother Theresa and Mahatma Gandhi have already been referenced for doing some bad things in their lives, but are those negatives more significant than the countless good they did for the world? On a much, much, MUCH less grand scale than those two, it's like Lance Armstrong. Yes, he's a doper and a liar, but the guy's Livestrong Foundation has also raised more than $500 million in the fight against cancer. Sometimes, you have to wonder whether being a liar and having your Tour de France victories vacated is more important than the half-billion dollars raised to battle cancer. I'd say yes for Gandhi. As far as I'm aware, he did sleep with nude women, but it was as some sort of spiritual test for himself, and I haven't heard of anything abusive or criminal coming from any of it. No IMO for Mother Theresa. Much of her "good work" was largely non-existent. People simply presumed she was doing it. In reality, she wasn't. She simply had good PR. As for Armstrong, he cheated in bike races. No lives were lost. I can overlook that if indeed his organisation really did help people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 13:04:27 GMT -5
Charges were dismissed but Anthony Anderson was accused of rape in 2004 and his career has actually PICKED UP since.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 15, 2015 13:05:08 GMT -5
Not to completely sidetrack the discussion, but for some celebrities and dignitaries, does one bad thing outweigh dozens of good things? For example, Mother Theresa and Mahatma Gandhi have already been referenced for doing some bad things in their lives, but are those negatives more significant than the countless good they did for the world? On a much, much, MUCH less grand scale than those two, it's like Lance Armstrong. Yes, he's a doper and a liar, but the guy's Livestrong Foundation has also raised more than $500 million in the fight against cancer. Sometimes, you have to wonder whether being a liar and having your Tour de France victories vacated is more important than the half-billion dollars raised to battle cancer. I'd say yes for Gandhi. As far as I'm aware, he did sleep with nude women, but it was as some sort of spiritual test for himself, and I haven't heard of anything abusive or criminal coming from any of it. No IMO for Mother Theresa. Much of her "good work" was largely non-existent. People simply presumed she was doing it. In reality, she wasn't. She simply had good PR. As for Armstrong, he cheated in bike races. No lives were lost. I can overlook that if indeed his organisation really did help people. Maybe not in the sense that he physically assaulted them, but Gandhi was pretty awful for believing that it was basically a woman's fault if she was sexual assaulted. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2015 13:07:23 GMT -5
I'd say yes for Gandhi. As far as I'm aware, he did sleep with nude women, but it was as some sort of spiritual test for himself, and I haven't heard of anything abusive or criminal coming from any of it. No IMO for Mother Theresa. Much of her "good work" was largely non-existent. People simply presumed she was doing it. In reality, she wasn't. She simply had good PR. As for Armstrong, he cheated in bike races. No lives were lost. I can overlook that if indeed his organisation really did help people. Maybe not in the sense that he physically assaulted them, but Gandhi was pretty awful for believing that it was basically a woman's fault if she was sexual assaulted. He said that? |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 15, 2015 13:18:49 GMT -5
I don't know about the sleeping with naked women thing or his views on sexual assault, but I do know Gandhi was a goddamned racist. Quoting him:
Kaffir, I should note, is a South African term meaning roughly equating to the N-word. Mind you, this is the guy whose statue sits outside the MLK Center.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 15, 2015 13:23:48 GMT -5
Maybe not in the sense that he physically assaulted them, but Gandhi was pretty awful for believing that it was basically a woman's fault if she was sexual assaulted. He said that? |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 15, 2015 13:29:43 GMT -5
Chris Brown is still popular in music in songs. Was also sicken when a few co workers who are early 20s "love him" and call him sexy and whatever. I'm like he also the biggest douche in the world and a woman beater. Can't respect him for that.
Tim Allen had a rock passed when he was younger now a respected comedian who normally playing a father character on TV shows and movies.
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Post by Cela on Jan 15, 2015 14:18:21 GMT -5
I don't know about the sleeping with naked women thing or his views on sexual assault, but I do know Gandhi was a goddamned racist. Quoting him: Kaffir, I should note, is a South African term meaning roughly equating to the N-word. Mind you, this is the guy whose statue sits outside the MLK Center. He's saying that the Europeans want to make all people in Africa to the level of stereotypical tribesmen. Is that racist? And for what it's worth, the guy struck a huge blow against apartheid, so... he gets to use the K word. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 14:22:15 GMT -5
Chris Brown and Justin Bieber
Both completely useless humans
Both make EXTREMELY good pop music
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 15, 2015 14:32:08 GMT -5
I don't know about the sleeping with naked women thing or his views on sexual assault, but I do know Gandhi was a goddamned racist. Quoting him: Kaffir, I should note, is a South African term meaning roughly equating to the N-word. Mind you, this is the guy whose statue sits outside the MLK Center. He's saying that the Europeans want to make all people in Africa to the level of stereotypical tribesmen. Is that racist? And for what it's worth, the guy struck a huge blow against apartheid, so... he gets to use the K word. He didn't do dick to help people in South Africa and was more for British imperialism than for helping those that was held down. |
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