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Post by mizerable on Jan 28, 2015 20:40:29 GMT -5
The only thing that pisses me off about Rollins/Orton is much like Cena, Orton doesn't need the win. It reminds me of Sheamus/Triple H where they had the opportunity to make someone albeit a "dastardly heel". And yes, I know that Rollins needs some sort of comeuppance, but I would actually prefer some after he won the title. It's probably a forgone conclusion that Orton wins, and probably will win with an RKO out of nowhere.
Out of the top 5 matches, 4 of them will most likely result in the lesser talent putting over the established talent.
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 28, 2015 20:43:40 GMT -5
Bryan/Ziggler has potential to be Savage/Steamboat levels of awesome and would make me forgive the WWE for not putting either in the main.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 28, 2015 20:46:53 GMT -5
I guess I can see that, but here's the problem. At present, all either of them have is "We're getting screwed over, we're popular but they wont' give us a match, so we're going to wrestle each other". To me that's "Let's make sure we get paid, and make them listen tot he crowed cheer for us" rather than Indy-level bullshit. But in kayfabe all it'll prove to the Authority is that one B player can beat another. They wouldn't really be showing anyone anything by killing eachother in a match. I mean it's either that or some lame ass Kane vs Ziggler and Big Show vs Bryan matches that nobody really wants to see. Kayfabe be damned, I'll take anything over those two.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 28, 2015 20:48:17 GMT -5
If they hadn't removed Ziggler's IC title pointlessly, these two guys could have had a decent match with that at stake. If they aren't going to do anything with Bryan at world title level, then let him build up the IC title.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 28, 2015 20:48:42 GMT -5
I could see him winning the Andre battle royal, actually. Yeah, this is where I think he ends up. Which, that's a good thing. Look what it did to boost Cesaro's career!
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 28, 2015 20:48:55 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt vs. The Undertaker I guess that explains why Bray looked so strong in the Rumble, they're trying to build him up as a threat to Taker.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 28, 2015 20:49:40 GMT -5
Why would Sting/Taker make sense? It was never a dream match back in the day and nearly two decades on it hasn't become any more appealing. Sting wasn't a supernatural character, he was a John Cena style hero who was wronged and became a vigilante, all he really has in common with Taker is wearing black and longevity. Taker needs and will most likely receive a win post streak and I would rather not have that win be over Sting given how he buried nearly every WCW guy he worked with in the invasion, it would be one final chance for him to spit on WCW's grave. At least if you pair him up with Wyatt, you can have a master v student storyline with dark tricks, mind games and theatrics up the wazoo, plus Wyatt won't really be harmed by the loss as post Cena he doesn't have much credibility to lose. To me, the notion of a dream match has been gone forever and it won't deliver the novelty that so many of us could write up. The way WWE would likely deliver it is Sting comes out, then Taker interrupts him...or vice versa. Whatever. Sting points to the Wrestlemania sign. Taker slowly raises his arm and rolls his eyes back and Michael Cole would exclaim "And that right there is Undertaker saying yes!" It's so cheesy and cliche and has no substance because too much time has past. If they were to ever give us a story with merit, I almost would have preferred it happened at Wrestlemania 18 when Taker was claiming "his yard" and Sting was 12 years younger, but I digress. Triple H a lot of the time really sucks in feuds unless he cares. I would almost say he has single handedly sold me on his match with Sting because *shock* he gives a damn. He isn't rolling his eyes, he doesn't have some stupid backup plan or anything like that. And as much as I rather not see Sting wrestle, at least Triple H is giving me a reason to want to see it.
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Post by froggyfrog on Jan 28, 2015 20:59:58 GMT -5
Looks fine to me
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Post by mizerable on Jan 28, 2015 21:00:44 GMT -5
If they hadn't removed Ziggler's IC title pointlessly, these two guys could have had a decent match with that at stake. If they aren't going to do anything with Bryan at world title level, then let him build up the IC title. I was for Ryback having a massive IC reign, but f*** it, I'll take Bryan being a fighting champion for a year plus reign.
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 28, 2015 21:01:35 GMT -5
I'd have Sheamus win the Andre battle royal, slowly build him back up, and Ambrose really deserves a high marquee match.
Maybe Jericho could come back and do something with him as a heel? Or have Ambrose turn heel, which would be welcomed by me if it meant an end to the silliness.
My perfect ending to Wrestlemania would be a Shield reunion with them all as heels where they take out a babyface Brock Lesnar and Heyman setting up a Brock vs Shield feud if Brock stays and giving him the perfect sendoff via a triple powerbomb if he doesn't. Then you have the Shield in the current Brock spot as the unstoppable force that is "loosely" allied with the Authority, but is independent from it, and in no way whatsoever its lapdogs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 21:03:29 GMT -5
Ambrose v Barrett for IC title? Why is the IC title banned from WrestleMania?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 21:03:41 GMT -5
I just don't see how Taker/Bray helps anyone. Bray loses, he won't be another streak victim, so who cares. Taker loses, Bray didn't end the streak, so you beat Undertaker at Wrestlemania and it means nothing. The only match with Taker that would make sense is Sting vs. Taker and even then, that'll be good for the entrances alone. Why would Sting/Taker make sense? It was never a dream match back in the day and nearly two decades on it hasn't become any more appealing. Sting wasn't a supernatural character, he was a John Cena style hero who was wronged and became a vigilante, all he really has in common with Taker is wearing black and longevity. Taker needs and will most likely receive a win post streak and I would rather not have that win be over Sting given how he buried nearly every WCW guy he worked with in the invasion, it would be one final chance for him to spit on WCW's grave. At least if you pair him up with Wyatt, you can have a master v student storyline with dark tricks, mind games and theatrics up the wazoo, plus Wyatt won't really be harmed by the loss as post Cena he doesn't have much credibility to lose and there's no shame in taking an all time great to the limit in one of his final few matches. People have clamored for Sting/Taker at Mania since at least 2011, so it does have some level of "dream match" value, though it's been greatly diminished. They're both the definitive loyal dark hero for their respective companies. I'm down with Taker vs. Wyatt though, I wanted it last year. Probably would've been better last year too, Wyatt has been rebuilt to an extent booking-wise, but he's not nearly as hot as he was this time last year.
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Post by SenorCrest on Jan 28, 2015 21:04:41 GMT -5
I rather have Sheamus/Bryan. Dean should win the IC title and Ziggler should win the battle royal.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 28, 2015 21:06:24 GMT -5
Apparently Dolph Ziggler is code name for Sheamus.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 28, 2015 21:08:40 GMT -5
I will piss my pants with laughter if they go with Bryan/Sheamus.
I can imagine Vince saying "dammit, I wanted this match last year, by god, I'm making it happen THIS year...hahahah!"
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 28, 2015 21:10:38 GMT -5
Color me flabbergasted at people's lack of faith in DANIEL BRYAN to be able to tell a compelling story in a wrestling match with Dolph Ziggler.
It is facepalm worthy to think a match with those two would be nothing but a MOVEZ fest...
This is no different than if two MMA fighters who were known for entertaining fights (like Clay Guida or the Korean Zombie) decided they wanted to fight each other because they each knew that the other would bring it and the result would be a (very high on offense, low on defense) spectacle that fans would not forget for quite some time.
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Post by Richard on Jan 28, 2015 21:11:23 GMT -5
Don't sleep on Rollins/Orton both of those guys can go. Should be a tremendous match. And with it being a World Title program in the months following most likely, I'd expect them to go balls out so their feud has some legs.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 28, 2015 21:16:44 GMT -5
You know what I want out of Wrestlemania( hell, you know what I want out of almost every PPV with the exception of maybe gimmick PPVs like the Rumble, Survivor Series and Money in the Bank)?
WWE title match WWE tag team title match IC title match Divas title match US title match
Throw in a couple big time matches and call it a day. It's not that f***in' hard to do. If you booked the titles properly to mean something, then maybe people will care. If you can't get people to care about the titles enough to pay to see them from time to time, then why should care about them on free TV or otherwise?
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jan 28, 2015 21:17:38 GMT -5
Wow, they really don't know what to do with Bryan.
A random match with Dolph Ziggler, sure it'll be good but so what?
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Post by SinisterMinister on Jan 28, 2015 21:24:46 GMT -5
I noticed this on Wreddit earlier, thought some of you might be interested... Outside of Daniel Bryan vs. Ziggler and the intrigue of seeing Sting wrestle in a WWE ring, I can't say this excites me. Overall, the card is kind of sad if this holds. It will be a disaster if the have Reigns go over Lesnar cause that means Reigns is somehow better than both Cena and Rollins who could not take out Lesnar. HHH vs. Sting is sad to me, I really wanted a dream match for mania and HHH vs. Sting is just another match. So, no Dean Ambrose? Rusev vs. Cena for the title? I guess Cena is going over. Sheamus is going to face Bryan, Vince gets excited over this match "Set in stone" my ASS. Batista was "Set in stone" last year in newz right after the rumble. Look how that turned out. Yes! Yes! Yes!
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