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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jan 29, 2015 8:54:42 GMT -5
Roman Reigns being in the main event of WrestleMania while Dean Ambrose has to make do with a battle royal appearance sums up what is wrong with WWE today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 8:56:50 GMT -5
Honestly I don't know how hyped I can get for an Undertaker match now that the Streak is broken. It intrigues me more since there is a shot Bray can win now. They may use Bray to end Taker and be the new dark character so Taker can HOF at that huge stadium next year.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 29, 2015 8:59:01 GMT -5
I wish theyd get rid of the IC and US title. They're so worthless
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 29, 2015 9:01:23 GMT -5
What annoys me is with Bryans injury we dont know how much time he has left in the ring, and they could be doing more with him higher up the card
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 29, 2015 9:02:30 GMT -5
I wish theyd get rid of the IC and US title. They're so worthless Better yet, they could try booking the champions so the titles are worth a damn. Giving them storylines to work with is a start.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 29, 2015 9:03:18 GMT -5
I wish theyd get rid of the IC and US title. They're so worthless The U.S. Championship should be retired. To get more heat, they should do a segment where Rusev throws the belt into a trash can.
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Post by amazingoopah on Jan 29, 2015 9:45:00 GMT -5
I wish theyd get rid of the IC and US title. They're so worthless The U.S. Championship should be retired. To get more heat, they should do a segment where Rusev throws the belt into a trash can. Followed by Jim Duggan fishing it out of the trash but throwing it back in when he sees it's just the worthless U.S. title belt.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 29, 2015 12:32:11 GMT -5
They only need the IC title. The US title is a pointless holdover from WCW and needs to go.
The WWE, IC, Tag, and Divas title suffice.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 29, 2015 12:42:00 GMT -5
I would probably pull for a Ziggler win. Guy has had such a see-saw year and the commentators need to justify that "career making" hype from TLC and Stairs
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Post by mizerable on Jan 29, 2015 14:48:08 GMT -5
They only need the IC title. The US title is a pointless holdover from WCW and needs to go. The WWE, IC, Tag, and Divas title suffice. I disagree. Less titles doesn't make them book the titles better, if gives people even less to do than before. The problem is WWE refuses to book the titles properly and getting rid of one title will accomplish nothing. Look to 2002 when they deactivated almost all the titles, the undercard NEVER recovered from that.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 29, 2015 14:51:57 GMT -5
Honestly I don't know how hyped I can get for an Undertaker match now that the Streak is broken. It intrigues me more since there is a shot Bray can win now. This guy gets it. This is exactly why they should have ended the Streak years ago.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 29, 2015 14:53:32 GMT -5
I cant see Cena challenging for the US title. So how about Rusev goes over Cena at fastlane and take him out in some big spot. Have Bryan beat Rusev for the US title on a RAW after Cena provides some sort of distraction. Have Ziggler win the IC belt back because its not like Barrett is doing anything. Thus Ziggler can challenge Bryan to "steal the show" and go title for title in a unification match. A mid card belt would be a step down for Bryan, but it would give Bryan/Ziggler some sort of compelling story to go along with their show stealer I actually like this idea. A unified upper midcard championship held by Daniel Bryan or Dolph Ziggler can easily fill the spot that the World Heavyweight Championship was in during its final years as a title that the top guys who aren't competing for the top title can go for. Plus unifying the belts gets the U.S. Title out of the limbo that it's been in ever since Ambrose's reign, and possibly gives room for them to introduce a 3rd tier championship that the actual mid card level talents can go after some time down the line. They only need the IC title. The US title is a pointless holdover from WCW and needs to go. The WWE, IC, Tag, and Divas title suffice. I disagree. Less titles doesn't make them book the titles better, if gives people even less to do than before. The problem is WWE refuses to book the titles properly and getting rid of one title will accomplish nothing. Look to 2002 when they deactivated almost all the titles, the undercard NEVER recovered from that. They need to have an actual undercard title. I do believe that more titles are needed, but right now they have one main event title and two upper mid card titles. They need to scrap the U.S. Title and bring in a dedicated 3rd tier belt.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 29, 2015 15:31:38 GMT -5
They need to have an actual undercard title. I do believe that more titles are needed, but right now they have one main event title and two upper mid card titles. They need to scrap the U.S. Title and bring in a dedicated 3rd tier belt. The US title has been better booked than the IC title in recent years. Also, I don't consider it a carry over from WCW since it existed far before that and in my opinion has slightly more prestige than the IC title although I would personally booked it as the lesser title. The system they have is fine. Where the title is placed should only matter based on who is fighting for it. There once was a time when champions of all calibres were booked strong. Sting as US champion would kick people's asses (this was after he had been WCW champion) and the announcers would exclaim "that's why he's the US Heavyweight champion!" There was substance to it, it didn't matter if it was the most important title in the company or the 5th most important belt in the company...all that mattered was the guy who was carrying it carried it for a reason. You want to know why there are so many jabronis in the Royal Rumble? How many of these guys have next to no direction and fight over stupid shit? It's gotten to the point where they mostly fight over comedic reasons than a title. Why should someone want to be IC champion? Well, maybe they want the achievement of knowing that they're that good. Or maybe they want that monetary bonus from being champion. The point being that more or less titles isn't the issue, the f***ing booking sucks.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 29, 2015 15:33:28 GMT -5
I wish theyd get rid of the IC and US title. They're so worthless The U.S. Championship should be retired. To get more heat, they should do a segment where Rusev throws the belt into a trash can. What they could do is have Rusev unify the titles. If you put both titles on a guy who they don't want to just beat willy nilly, then they will start to mean something.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 29, 2015 15:43:21 GMT -5
The U.S. Championship should be retired. To get more heat, they should do a segment where Rusev throws the belt into a trash can. What they could do is have Rusev unify the titles. If you put both titles on a guy who they don't want to just beat willy nilly, then they will start to mean something. That would mean Barrett would have to job to Rusev.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jan 29, 2015 15:45:04 GMT -5
welp, I ain't paying to see that.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 29, 2015 15:45:49 GMT -5
I'm ok with a wrestling company having a few extra belts, so long as the roster is large enough for it and the belts, besides simply being booked well with decent feuds/angles, serve a purpose. Some companies have belts for specific divisions (cruisers/high flyers, strikers, technicians, etc.), some have a belt that's solidly meant for midcard feuds, etc., but they need to have something driving them, giving them meaning.
As they are, the US and IC belts are pointless, but if they got specific purposes it'd be alright to have both, given how large the WWE roster is and how many shows they produce. You could make the US belt the top title of a C-show like Main Event or something, as long as it's clear what its purpose is.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 29, 2015 15:48:12 GMT -5
What they could do is have Rusev unify the titles. If you put both titles on a guy who they don't want to just beat willy nilly, then they will start to mean something. That would mean Barrett would have to job to Rusev. I legit forgot Barrett was IC champion
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 29, 2015 16:19:33 GMT -5
What they could do is have Rusev unify the titles. If you put both titles on a guy who they don't want to just beat willy nilly, then they will start to mean something. That would mean Barrett would have to job to Rusev. So. He jobbed to Sin Cara.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 29, 2015 16:22:42 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler is stupid; sure it'll be a good match but there will be literally nothing at stake. Why would I want to watch a match where it doesn't matter who wins? The story will literally be LET'S STEAL THE SHOW, which is indy-level bullshit. Agreed. They pretty much have to turn one of them heel (or at least, have them act heelish in the build) in order for the match to really mean anything. Otherwise, what's the point? It'll be a great match that means nothing. I see enough of that on WWE TV, I don't need to see it at Mania. That sounds spoiled, I'm sure, but that's how I feel.
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