Star Wars Anthology: Rogue One (2016)

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They always had my money because, you know, Star Wars (and my crush on Felicity Jones), but that trailer finally made me excited for this. Can't wait.

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The official poster is beautiful.

Aug 12, 2016 1:21:23 GMT -5 Jedi-El of Tomorrow said:

I'm still with the speculation that Felicity Jones is playing Rey's mother. I'm guessing we'll get a Luke reference, like Mothma saying "There is a young pilot on Tattooine that could be a great help."

I'm not so sure, considering Luke basically ends up involved with the rebels by accident.

Aug 12, 2016 0:54:11 GMT -5 G✇JI☈A said:

Said it before, but I'm guessing the film ends with Vader saying 'set a course for the Tatooine System!'.

It would never happen, since I presume they want to keep some characters alive for a sequel or other anthology stories, but I want the very final scene to be Vader overseeing the interrogation or execution of the surviving squad members... or doing it himself. The trailer makes the movie look like a really dark war movie, so a really dark ending would fit.

[G✇JI☈A]

Two of my favourite film franchises are Godzilla and Star Wars.

And Gareth Edwards in the last two years has made one of each of the franchise. Despite its many flaws I did enjoy his Godzilla movie, now I hope he makes an enjoyable Star Wars movie,

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

A lot of things that have been revealed in the recent canon books that have been released put some serious doubt in my mind that Rey is related to anyone that we know.


Spoilers for Aftermath and Aftermath:Life Debt

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Basically, the Emperor put someone from his shadow council in charge of creating labs in the outer rim systems, including Jakku. He felt that the outer rim has answers about the origin of the Dark Side of the force and therefore, put some of his advisors out there to create labs and facilities to test his theory. So, if Jakku is so overrun with the dark side that the Emperor, the most powerful Sith Lord and Dark Side user in the history of the series, thinks the planet is significant to it's history, why the hell would Luke put someone who's supposedly his daughter on a planet like that?

Also, from the Leia-centered novel, Star Wars: Bloodline, we learn that:

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Ben is still training with Luke as late as six years before the events of Episode 7. Pablo Hidalgo, the head honcho at the Lucasfilm story group, mentions that Ben Solo is about 30 at the time of the Force Awakens. Which would make him about 24 in Bloodline. Rey is 19 years old during the Force Awakens, and is abandoned on Jakku at 5 years old. Meaning that Rey was already on Jakku well before Ben went dark, and maybe well before Luke even began training Ben.

Not to mention the story is told from Leia's POV. If she had a niece and Luke had a daughter, she should mention at some point, right? Expect, she doesn't. She doesn't even hint at it. If Luke or Ben or she or Han or whoever left a Skywalker on an armpit of the galaxy like Jakku, surely that would be a cause for tension among our heroes. But, that's just not the case. All throughout the novel, Leia makes it clear that she is on good terms with everyone. Even with Han who's off doing his own thing.

Not to mention on top of all that, JJ Abrams flat out said that Rey's parents aren't in Episode 7. I know he tried to clarify immediately afterwards but, it was a pretty cut and dry statement to me.


So, from all the details we've gotten from the Star Wars canon lately, unless I'm missing a significant detail or something major has yet to be revealed, Rey being either a Skywalker or Solo is doubtful IMO. The timeline just doesn't add up and the things we're learning about Jakku and it's history would make it an awful place for someone who's supposed to be one of our main heroes to leave their own flesh and blood on.

[crashmatsbazz]

i need a bag to help me breathe.


holy f*** that looked amazing!!!

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Aug 12, 2016 4:51:54 GMT -5 Mochi Lone Wolf said:

Not to mention on top of all that, JJ Abrams flat out said that Rey's parents aren't in Episode 7. I know he tried to clarify immediately afterwards but, it was a pretty cut and dry statement to me.
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And Benedict Cumberbatch definitely wasn't Khan in Into Darkness.


He also changed what he said later on

UPDATE: After the Q&A, EW caught up with J.J. Abrams and he clarified his comments. The director says he was only trying to point out that The Force Awakens builds up the mystery of Rey’s parents without resolving it. “What I meant was that she doesn’t discover them in Episode VII. Not that they may not already be in her world,” Abrams said.

and JJ Abrams has 0 say in any further Star Wars movies creatively.

I'm not saying Rey is related to anyone or not. But a mystery parents thing doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense if we don't know who she's related to in some capacity.

as for the Aftermath spoilers

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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}the same reason Yoda hid on Dagobah, another planet that was over run with the Dark side.
If someone is looking for a Jedi (and in both cases someone was.) it's hard to detect them in a place like that.

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Once again, looks great.

The landscapes and environments here really stand out. Even though they've been on desert planets before, this looked and felt much different than other SW locales.

Seeing more of the other Rebels was really good. Just enough, not too much, and gives them voices which lifts them off the screen rather than just being a visual.

That final shot of Vader was just perfect. Just the back of him.....and not even a full Vader breath, either. Expertly done.

......and my goodness, Alan Tudyk could take over as the voice of Threepio, couldn't he? Wow that was almost spot on.

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I was really into the first trailer, but this one just seems...a bit too conventionally Star Wars-ish. Which, I'm not saying isn't the smart move, but just not really my style. I was hoping this one would kinda pull me into the SW world, but it just seems like a normal SW films as opposed to something new/different. Visually it looks stunning though.

[Stu]

The thing I like about prequels is they can end dark. See Revenge of the Sith for example. I expect nothing less from Rogue Squadron

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Aaaand sold. Seriously, it looks awesome.

[sternrogers01]

Looks kinda "eh".

[Stu]

Aug 12, 2016 8:28:38 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

I was really into the first trailer, but this one just seems...a bit too conventionally Star Wars-ish. Which, I'm not saying isn't the smart move, but just not really my style. I was hoping this one would kinda pull me into the SW world, but it just seems like a normal SW films as opposed to something new/different. Visually it looks stunning though.

What exactly is your style? How would you change things?

Aug 12, 2016 9:29:23 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

Looks kinda "eh".

What don't you like about it?

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Aug 12, 2016 9:57:29 GMT -5 Stu said:

Aug 12, 2016 8:28:38 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

I was really into the first trailer, but this one just seems...a bit too conventionally Star Wars-ish. Which, I'm not saying isn't the smart move, but just not really my style. I was hoping this one would kinda pull me into the SW world, but it just seems like a normal SW films as opposed to something new/different. Visually it looks stunning though.

What exactly is your style? How would you change things?

Aug 12, 2016 9:29:23 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

Looks kinda "eh".

What don't you like about it?

I've never been a fan of the SW franchise overall. Just never really resonated with me. The first trailer for Rogue had more of a "Children of Men" feel to it, if that makes sense. While it still existed in the realm of SW, it seemed more like an espionage/thriller set in a sci-fi/fantasy world. More grounded and a very different feel than other SW films I've seen previews for. The full trailer was more in-line with the established Star Wars brand, which isn't something I've ever been that interested in. Again, I'm glad that Disney kept things more on-brand so to speak, as I'd imagine SW fans would have been unhappy with anything too different. I'm not the target audience for this movie, they are, but the teaser trailer had a style/tone to it that appealed to me more.

But I wouldn't change a thing - like I said, it's not a movie for me. It's a Star Wars movie and I was surprised that the first trailer was so "un-Star Wars" which piqued my interest in a franchise that I normally don't bother with.

[darthobiwan]

Awesome! Favorite parts were vader and the droid!

[Stu]

Aug 12, 2016 10:19:24 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Aug 12, 2016 9:57:29 GMT -5 Stu said:

What exactly is your style? How would you change things?


What don't you like about it?

I've never been a fan of the SW franchise overall. Just never really resonated with me. The first trailer for Rogue had more of a "Children of Men" feel to it, if that makes sense. While it still existed in the realm of SW, it seemed more like an espionage/thriller set in a sci-fi/fantasy world. More grounded and a very different feel than other SW films I've seen previews for. The full trailer was more in-line with the established Star Wars brand, which isn't something I've ever been that interested in. Again, I'm glad that Disney kept things more on-brand so to speak, as I'd imagine SW fans would have been unhappy with anything too different. I'm not the target audience for this movie, they are, but the teaser trailer had a style/tone to it that appealed to me more.

But I wouldn't change a thing - like I said, it's not a movie for me. It's a Star Wars movie and I was surprised that the first trailer was so "un-Star Wars" which piqued my interest in a franchise that I normally don't bother with.

As a Star Wars fan, I have to disagree with you. Being familiar with the previous seven films, I have to say this one definitely looks like it strayed from the original formula. Yes, you have a few familiar characters and props (which is totally necessary). But at the same time, the story takes place in a different era and involves different worlds and characters. And it doesn't appear this is so much a movie about the Force as it is a war film about the small band of rebels taking on the larger military (this has always been a side plot of the original trilogy, but now it's at the forefront). I can see how someone less fond of and familiar with the previous films may say "Oh, it's just another Star Wars film." But those of us who are well familiar with the franchise can easily spot the differences and understand how this is far from your typical Star Wars film.

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Aug 12, 2016 10:25:20 GMT -5 Stu said:

Aug 12, 2016 10:19:24 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

I've never been a fan of the SW franchise overall. Just never really resonated with me. The first trailer for Rogue had more of a "Children of Men" feel to it, if that makes sense. While it still existed in the realm of SW, it seemed more like an espionage/thriller set in a sci-fi/fantasy world. More grounded and a very different feel than other SW films I've seen previews for. The full trailer was more in-line with the established Star Wars brand, which isn't something I've ever been that interested in. Again, I'm glad that Disney kept things more on-brand so to speak, as I'd imagine SW fans would have been unhappy with anything too different. I'm not the target audience for this movie, they are, but the teaser trailer had a style/tone to it that appealed to me more.

But I wouldn't change a thing - like I said, it's not a movie for me. It's a Star Wars movie and I was surprised that the first trailer was so "un-Star Wars" which piqued my interest in a franchise that I normally don't bother with.

As a Star Wars fan, I have to disagree with you. Being familiar with the previous seven films, I have to say this one definitely looks like it strayed from the original formula. Yes, you have a few familiar characters and props (which is totally necessary). But at the same time, the story takes place in a different era and involves different worlds and characters. And it doesn't appear this is so much a movie about the Force as it is a war film about the small band of rebels taking on the larger military (this has always been a side plot of the original trilogy, but now it's at the forefront). I can see how someone less fond of and familiar with the previous films may say "Oh, it's just another Star Wars film." But those of us who are well familiar with the franchise can easily spot the differences and understand how this is far from your typical Star Wars film.

Exactly - like I said, it's just not a film that I'm the target audience for. When they started throwing in more future/space samurai and spaceship battles and what not - again, all stuff that's totally normal and expected of a SW film - it just kinda lost me. I was more into it when it felt like a smaller "on-the-ground" type film. More like a spy thriller; a lone rebel agent infiltrating enemy territory to procure plans to help the rebellion. Basically I watched the teaser through the wrong lens. From the POV of a longstanding SW fans, I'm sure there are more interesting things happening here. For someone who is not really into that world the second trailer seems less interesting than the first even though the second trailer had more eye-catching stuff from the POV of a SW fan, I think. I will say that of all the SW films I've seen or seen the trailers for, this one is more distinctive, but not distinct enough from the SW brand to really draw me in. And again, nor should it be.

[The Captain]

I wonder if that shot of the Star Destroyer hovering in that planet's sky when Saw Gerrera (Forest Whitaker's character) is talking is supposed to be Onderon. His character is from Onderon in the Clone Wars and it'd make sense.

That and I'd fanboy over Onderon showing up in one of the movies in some capacity.

[Stu]

Aug 12, 2016 10:36:37 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Aug 12, 2016 10:25:20 GMT -5 Stu said:

As a Star Wars fan, I have to disagree with you. Being familiar with the previous seven films, I have to say this one definitely looks like it strayed from the original formula. Yes, you have a few familiar characters and props (which is totally necessary). But at the same time, the story takes place in a different era and involves different worlds and characters. And it doesn't appear this is so much a movie about the Force as it is a war film about the small band of rebels taking on the larger military (this has always been a side plot of the original trilogy, but now it's at the forefront). I can see how someone less fond of and familiar with the previous films may say "Oh, it's just another Star Wars film." But those of us who are well familiar with the franchise can easily spot the differences and understand how this is far from your typical Star Wars film.

Exactly - like I said, it's just not a film that I'm the target audience for. When they started throwing in more future/space samurai and spaceship battles and what not - again, all stuff that's totally normal and expected of a SW film - it just kinda lost me. I was more into it when it felt like a smaller "on-the-ground" type film. More like a spy thriller; a lone rebel agent infiltrating enemy territory to procure plans to help the rebellion. Basically I watched the teaser through the wrong lens. From the POV of a longstanding SW fans, I'm sure there are more interesting things happening here. For someone who is not really into that world the second trailer seems less interesting than the first even though the second trailer had more eye-catching stuff from the POV of a SW fan, I think. I will say that of all the SW films I've seen or seen the trailers for, this one is more distinctive, but not distinct enough from the SW brand to really draw me in. And again, nor should it be.

If you were looking for a film to draw you into the Star Wars franchise, this wouldn't have been it. As mentioned, it strayed from the original formula and isn't exactly representative of a traditional Star Wars film. You could see this and enjoy it all you want. But at the end of the day, you've still got seven other films that are far removed from this format.

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Aug 12, 2016 10:43:36 GMT -5 Stu said:

Aug 12, 2016 10:36:37 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Exactly - like I said, it's just not a film that I'm the target audience for. When they started throwing in more future/space samurai and spaceship battles and what not - again, all stuff that's totally normal and expected of a SW film - it just kinda lost me. I was more into it when it felt like a smaller "on-the-ground" type film. More like a spy thriller; a lone rebel agent infiltrating enemy territory to procure plans to help the rebellion. Basically I watched the teaser through the wrong lens. From the POV of a longstanding SW fans, I'm sure there are more interesting things happening here. For someone who is not really into that world the second trailer seems less interesting than the first even though the second trailer had more eye-catching stuff from the POV of a SW fan, I think. I will say that of all the SW films I've seen or seen the trailers for, this one is more distinctive, but not distinct enough from the SW brand to really draw me in. And again, nor should it be.

If you were looking for a film to draw you into the Star Wars franchise, this wouldn't have been it. As mentioned, it strayed from the original formula and isn't exactly representative of a traditional Star Wars film. You could see this and enjoy it all you want. But at the end of the day, you've still got seven other films that are far removed from this format.

For sure. I doubt they were making this one and thinking, "Yeah. THIS is the one that's gonna hook new fans." haha! I just meant more like draw me into that world and interest me in watching a SW film at all (this one included). This one is clearly a side story for SW fans who are already invested in this world. I was just surprised that the teaser was actually kind of cool (from my perspective, not a slight against SW fans). And then was ... not "let down" .. because that's not really accurate but, ... well, I'd created a different movie in my head based off the teaser (which was much more un-SW - which was unrealistic, I know) and the full trailer didn't really match that so now I'm kinda like, "Oh okay, I get it. I was off base with what I extrapolated from the teaser."

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