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Post by Fade on Jan 3, 2017 15:44:02 GMT -5
Perhaps not, but it fits with the recent Vader voice-work that Jones has done (mainly on Rebels). I would be reluctant to manipulate his voice acting in order to make it match the 1977 movie. That tends to rob something from the performance. I think that for Tarkin they simply had the voice actor (was it the same as the guy who was the stand-in? They sound somewhat similar to begin with) to an impression of Cushing as Tarkin, rather than try to manipulate a performance in any way. Considering Rogue One ends moments before A New Hope begins, shouldn't the voice be the same? Kinda thought this too. It's damn apparent from watching The Rogue One scene and then A New Hope. The good thing is there's some damn good voice actors out there who do pretty good impressions of JEJ. Eventually someone's gonna have to take over the role. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 16:15:38 GMT -5
I think that for Tarkin they simply had the voice actor (was it the same as the guy who was the stand-in? They sound somewhat similar to begin with) to an impression of Cushing as Tarkin, rather than try to manipulate a performance in any way. The only Tarkin credit was the guy who played him under the CGI face. I would imagine - like Serkis and Nyong'o in TFA - he did the voice as they did for Snoke and Maz. Since they're on set and their mouth is moving already, makes little sense to bring in a voice actor. Oddly enough, Stephen Stanton - who did the voice of Tarkin on REBELS (and also CLONE WARS?) - was in Rogue One too, voicing the Mon Cal admiral who didn't make it away from Scarif in time (and from whose ship Leia and the Tantive IV made their escape). But he wasn't credited at all for Tarkin's voice (Disney's been good with crediting voice actors for Star Wars now - Kipsang Rotich and the late Erik Blauerfeld got credits for Nein Numb and Ackbar, finally), so I reckon it was the Tarkin actor (Guy Henry) speaking. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 3, 2017 18:11:14 GMT -5
I didn't stay for the credits, but they probably listed that Peter Cushing's likeness was used by permission of his estate because Disney and Lucasfilm do not OWN Peter Cushing's likeness.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 3, 2017 18:15:06 GMT -5
Peter Cushing's estate signed off on it. I'm sure they mentioned him somewhere in the credits.
It's interesting that his likeness is giving us moments of horror even after death considering his long career with Hammer films.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 3, 2017 22:23:45 GMT -5
Nah. Just cut the actor's performances in Raiders of the Lost Ark and Batman and insert them in through the magic of editing. Rebel officer: "This is Jek Porkins of Red Squadron. They're looking for new recruits." Recruit: "Oh really? Well, what are you looking for?" Porkins: "Top. Men." Rebel officer: "Now Piggy, that attitude won't work. When I'm in charge of the fighter wing, that won't.... Porkins: "You mean when you run the show? You ain't got no future, Jack! You're an A-1 nut boy!" CGI a double bantha cheese burger and supersized chocolate blue milk into both of his hands and call it a day. I am so disappointed that this did not make it into the film. |
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 3, 2017 23:05:09 GMT -5
1. A New Hope
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. The Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Rogue One
7. The Phantom Menace
8. Attack of the Clones
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 4, 2017 13:22:19 GMT -5
Peter Cushing's estate signed off on it. I'm sure they mentioned him somewhere in the credits. I think were multiple references to the estate of Peter Cushing in the credits. Either way there was at least one. Something like "Mr. Cushing appearaed thanks to the blessing of his estate" and maybe again in the special thanks section with the Archivist. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 5, 2017 11:15:02 GMT -5
Saw it over the weekend; largely enjoyed it, but felt conflicted on a couple of things. There are a lot of positives to be sure, at least in terms of it being enjoyable for me as a fan. I appreciated a Star Wars movie where "space wizards" weren't the focus, and where the "Wars" part of the title is fully emphasized. I also thought that in this one movie, they did more to reestablish just how terrifying and overwhelming the Empire feels as an enemy than anything that was done in TFA to establish the New Order. Starkiller Base was meant to dwarf the Death Star yet felt completely forgettable; in this movie, seeing the Death Star at minimal power output was jarring. Even more, just seeing how banal the evil of the Empire could be may have been the most terrifying thing of all; they're not all cackling madman dictators, they're just cooly and ruthlessly efficient military men and bureaucrats who can ruin you at the drop of a hat. But that said, yeah, they overstuffed the cast, and it hurt the chances for character development, so I agree with the Plinkett/RLM reviews there. There were ideas that were mentioned and then went nowhere (e.g. the Imperial defector having his brain messed with), and motivations were never quite clear enough for my liking. It's like they wanted the "rag tag team up" model of the original trilogy, but didn't want to put the work in to make us understand or appreciate why these people are teaming up, and while I won't go so far as to say I didn't care about them and their ultimate fates at the end, it just made me think they should've pared the main cast down a bit and just told an even more non-traditional story. Heck, near the end, I disliked how {Spoiler}it felt like each main character would do something important and then immediately die. It got to the point where it started becoming comical to me, like everything had to be "Phew! Just accomplished that big task just under the wire! <BOOM!>" Come to think of it, seeing things from the perspective of the guy who actually created the Death Star might've been more interesting, giving this flick a bit of the Gangs of New York dilemma; a good movie where, honestly, the conflict between Daniel Day Lewis' Bill the Butcher and Liam Neeson's Priest Vallon was a lot more interesting as a subject for a movie than the eventual Lewis vs. DiCaprio angle, where the "parents' generation" felt more compelling. That all said, I do think it's not very constructive to compare this with the other 7 movies; it's clearly not meant to be done similarly to them, so directly comparing them, for good or ill, feels kind of fruitless. I think that's also part of why I felt a big forgiving of things that might've bugged me more otherwise: I went in fully expecting, and frankly fully hoping, that I wouldn't get a "traditional" Star Wars. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 5, 2017 12:07:46 GMT -5
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Post by Lazy peon on Jan 5, 2017 12:42:25 GMT -5
Saw it finally, thought the first 2/3 were just okay, but 3rd act was really cool.
1. Originals
2. Rogue One
3. Force Awakens
4. Prequels
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 13:53:38 GMT -5
So apparently Angus MacInnes - who played Gold Leader in ANH, and popped up late in Rogue One thanks to recycled/unused footage - did re-record new dialogue for his character in ROGUE ONE. www.aintitcool.com/node/77026 |
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 14, 2017 19:44:18 GMT -5
It's now at $925 million
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Feb 9, 2017 20:51:03 GMT -5
FINALLY saw it, since it's apparently now at the end of it's screenings ..... okay it's finished! a VERY VERY GOOD war movie in the star wars universe ..... or galaxy ..... it did feel a bit slowish in the first part, but that's because it was the setup of things, or more precise ..... EXPOSITION! and it was action-lite TBH, and a lot of stuff that wouldn't even be done in the past thus making it a DIFFERENT STYLE of star wars movie ..... not a bad thing ..... as for the characters, almost got them gelled enough to truly believe in them, but their relationships with their partner was great ..... especially chirrut and baze, they were funny as hell ..... but it was the BRILLIANTLY LACONIC K-2S0 that stole the show!!! i was laughing at most of what he was saying and was a genuinely affecting character {Spoiler}and will be SADLY MISSED, but was also kinda surprised at NO ONE surviving the raid! as i said about it being action-lite, it wasn't at the end, pretty much all of it was in the main raid and there were superb moments especially {Spoiler}the first moment you see the AT-AT through the smoke, in fact most of the reveals were done very well, and the cameo appearances were nice too as for the main character cameo's, obviously tarkin get's the buscuit, chewing on the hard stuff and getting to {Spoiler}stuff krennic up by nicking the death star command  HOWEVER his story was a little blurred, him flitting about was kinda confusing and was never convincing to me he was actually chasing the rebels! the x-wing and y-wing pilots keeping in regard to a new hope was also a nice touch, soon as i seen GOLD and RED leader i whispered "oh he's alive!"  and then the very last shot ..... and then it ENDED THERE AND THEN! quite a startled viewer sat back in his seat  but best one was vadar, kicking major rebel scum asses, and a very nice shot of him watching the {Spoiler}tantive IV naff off with dem stolen plans the databank raid part was kinda less than it should have been TBH, and ONCE AGAIN don't use some trailer shots ..... if the story had them getting the schematics FROM the databank TO the comms tower under fire from AT-AT's, that would have been far more exciting to see. but mr death star lurking about the place gave me chills, it's one eye almost following you about, them blatting places ..... the music cues for it were wonderful and CREEPY, especially the end one a single REUSED shot of a DS tech was pretty grating and worthless, the first rebel x-wing raid on eadu that almost RUINED the tension ..... also just having ROGUE ONE as the title was too, should have had the A STAR WARS STORY composed into it too. my main complaint would be it wasn't focused ENOUGH story wise unlike THE FORCE AWAKENS (the same problem i had with GODZILLA, it wasn't focused enough of the big guy), but it was a fine addition to the star wars franchise overall, with funny characters doing brave things and getting dead heroically ..... a right old grump being grumpy ..... and some gorgeous space battling ..... OVER TO YOU MR JOHNSON |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 20:55:54 GMT -5
^^^^
Something I noticed about the slow beginning is that it doesn't seem as slow on a second viewing.
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Post by Stu on Feb 9, 2017 21:33:18 GMT -5
FINALLY saw it, since it's apparently now at the end of it's screenings ..... okay it's finished! a VERY VERY GOOD war movie in the star wars universe ..... or galaxy ..... it did feel a bit slowish in the first part, but that's because it was the setup of things, or more precise ..... EXPOSITION! and it was action-lite TBH, and a lot of stuff that wouldn't even be done in the past thus making it a DIFFERENT STYLE of star wars movie ..... not a bad thing ..... as for the characters, almost got them gelled enough to truly believe in them, but their relationships with their partner was great ..... especially chirrut and baze, they were funny as hell ..... but it was the BRILLIANTLY LACONIC K-2S0 that stole the show!!! i was laughing at most of what he was saying and was a genuinely affecting character {Spoiler}{Spoiler}and will be SADLY MISSED, but was also kinda surprised at NO ONE surviving the raid! as i said about it being action-lite, it wasn't at the end, pretty much all of it was in the main raid and there were superb moments especially {Spoiler}{Spoiler}the first moment you see the AT-AT through the smoke, in fact most of the reveals were done very well, and the cameo appearances were nice too as for the main character cameo's, obviously tarkin get's the buscuit, chewing on the hard stuff and getting to {Spoiler}{Spoiler}stuff krennic up by nicking the death star command HOWEVER his story was a little blurred, him flitting about was kinda confusing and was never convincing to me he was actually chasing the rebels! the x-wing and y-wing pilots keeping in regard to a new hope was also a nice touch, soon as i seen GOLD and RED leader i whispered "oh he's alive!" and then the very last shot ..... and then it ENDED THERE AND THEN! quite a startled viewer sat back in his seat but best one was vadar, kicking major rebel scum asses, and a very nice shot of him watching the {Spoiler}{Spoiler}tantive IV naff off with dem stolen plans the databank raid part was kinda less than it should have been TBH, and ONCE AGAIN don't use some trailer shots ..... if the story had them getting the schematics FROM the databank TO the comms tower under fire from AT-AT's, that would have been far more exciting to see. but mr death star lurking about the place gave me chills, it's one eye almost following you about, them blatting places ..... the music cues for it were wonderful and CREEPY, especially the end one a single REUSED shot of a DS tech was pretty grating and worthless, the first rebel x-wing raid on eadu that almost RUINED the tension ..... also just having ROGUE ONE as the title was too, should have had the A STAR WARS STORY composed into it too. my main complaint would be it wasn't focused ENOUGH story wise unlike THE FORCE AWAKENS (the same problem i had with GODZILLA, it wasn't focused enough of the big guy), but it was a fine addition to the star wars franchise overall, with funny characters doing brave things and getting dead heroically ..... a right old grump being grumpy ..... and some gorgeous space battling ..... OVER TO YOU MR JOHNSON So I noticed you have a distinct style of typing. It seems like you break your sentences apart and separate them, line by line. What made you decide to do it like? Just curious. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Feb 9, 2017 22:07:40 GMT -5
FINALLY saw it, since it's apparently now at the end of it's screenings ..... okay it's finished! a VERY VERY GOOD war movie in the star wars universe ..... or galaxy ..... it did feel a bit slowish in the first part, but that's because it was the setup of things, or more precise ..... EXPOSITION! and it was action-lite TBH, and a lot of stuff that wouldn't even be done in the past thus making it a DIFFERENT STYLE of star wars movie ..... not a bad thing ..... as for the characters, almost got them gelled enough to truly believe in them, but their relationships with their partner was great ..... especially chirrut and baze, they were funny as hell ..... but it was the BRILLIANTLY LACONIC K-2S0 that stole the show!!! i was laughing at most of what he was saying and was a genuinely affecting character {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}and will be SADLY MISSED, but was also kinda surprised at NO ONE surviving the raid! as i said about it being action-lite, it wasn't at the end, pretty much all of it was in the main raid and there were superb moments especially {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}the first moment you see the AT-AT through the smoke, in fact most of the reveals were done very well, and the cameo appearances were nice too as for the main character cameo's, obviously tarkin get's the buscuit, chewing on the hard stuff and getting to {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}stuff krennic up by nicking the death star command HOWEVER his story was a little blurred, him flitting about was kinda confusing and was never convincing to me he was actually chasing the rebels! the x-wing and y-wing pilots keeping in regard to a new hope was also a nice touch, soon as i seen GOLD and RED leader i whispered "oh he's alive!" and then the very last shot ..... and then it ENDED THERE AND THEN! quite a startled viewer sat back in his seat but best one was vadar, kicking major rebel scum asses, and a very nice shot of him watching the {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}tantive IV naff off with dem stolen plans the databank raid part was kinda less than it should have been TBH, and ONCE AGAIN don't use some trailer shots ..... if the story had them getting the schematics FROM the databank TO the comms tower under fire from AT-AT's, that would have been far more exciting to see. but mr death star lurking about the place gave me chills, it's one eye almost following you about, them blatting places ..... the music cues for it were wonderful and CREEPY, especially the end one a single REUSED shot of a DS tech was pretty grating and worthless, the first rebel x-wing raid on eadu that almost RUINED the tension ..... also just having ROGUE ONE as the title was too, should have had the A STAR WARS STORY composed into it too. my main complaint would be it wasn't focused ENOUGH story wise unlike THE FORCE AWAKENS (the same problem i had with GODZILLA, it wasn't focused enough of the big guy), but it was a fine addition to the star wars franchise overall, with funny characters doing brave things and getting dead heroically ..... a right old grump being grumpy ..... and some gorgeous space battling ..... OVER TO YOU MR JOHNSON So I noticed you have a distinct style of typing. It seems like you break your sentences apart and separate them, line by line. What made you decide to do it like? Just curious. just easier to read, instead of having a block o'text onscreen i guess and no i didn't shoot first .....  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 8:48:05 GMT -5
^^^^ Something I noticed about the slow beginning is that it doesn't seem as slow on a second viewing. And the complaint about too much jumping around at the beginning between all those planets doesn't seem to hold up either - once you know it's coming, it's not as "choppy" and seems more natural. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 22, 2017 17:55:08 GMT -5
Out on Blu-Ray April 4th
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 15, 2017 10:20:47 GMT -5
Did anyone else notice how dramatically different James Earl Jones voice is in 2016 vs 1977? Really wish they would have manipulated Jones' voice to make him sound closer to his 1977 self. It's called getting old. Happens to all the greats, along with other elements (see also: Blanc, Mel). I find it funnier how JEJ just 10+ years ago sounded more like the "classic" Vader, Big No/Do Not Want aside. But yeah I just saw the movie, and if you snip away the scenes where Vader had dialogue and just kept his badass moment of destroying rebels, I'd be perfectly happy. Yes, including leaving out that One Liner. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on May 15, 2017 17:24:08 GMT -5
FINALLY saw it, since it's apparently now at the end of it's screenings ..... okay it's finished! a VERY VERY GOOD war movie in the star wars universe ..... or galaxy ..... it did feel a bit slowish in the first part, but that's because it was the setup of things, or more precise ..... EXPOSITION! and it was action-lite TBH, and a lot of stuff that wouldn't even be done in the past thus making it a DIFFERENT STYLE of star wars movie ..... not a bad thing ..... as for the characters, almost got them gelled enough to truly believe in them, but their relationships with their partner was great ..... especially chirrut and baze, they were funny as hell ..... but it was the BRILLIANTLY LACONIC K-2S0 that stole the show!!! i was laughing at most of what he was saying and was a genuinely affecting character {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}and will be SADLY MISSED, but was also kinda surprised at NO ONE surviving the raid! as i said about it being action-lite, it wasn't at the end, pretty much all of it was in the main raid and there were superb moments especially {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}the first moment you see the AT-AT through the smoke, in fact most of the reveals were done very well, and the cameo appearances were nice too as for the main character cameo's, obviously tarkin get's the buscuit, chewing on the hard stuff and getting to {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}stuff krennic up by nicking the death star command HOWEVER his story was a little blurred, him flitting about was kinda confusing and was never convincing to me he was actually chasing the rebels! the x-wing and y-wing pilots keeping in regard to a new hope was also a nice touch, soon as i seen GOLD and RED leader i whispered "oh he's alive!" and then the very last shot ..... and then it ENDED THERE AND THEN! quite a startled viewer sat back in his seat but best one was vadar, kicking major rebel scum asses, and a very nice shot of him watching the {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}tantive IV naff off with dem stolen plans the databank raid part was kinda less than it should have been TBH, and ONCE AGAIN don't use some trailer shots ..... if the story had them getting the schematics FROM the databank TO the comms tower under fire from AT-AT's, that would have been far more exciting to see. but mr death star lurking about the place gave me chills, it's one eye almost following you about, them blatting places ..... the music cues for it were wonderful and CREEPY, especially the end one a single REUSED shot of a DS tech was pretty grating and worthless, the first rebel x-wing raid on eadu that almost RUINED the tension ..... also just having ROGUE ONE as the title was too, should have had the A STAR WARS STORY composed into it too. my main complaint would be it wasn't focused ENOUGH story wise unlike THE FORCE AWAKENS (the same problem i had with GODZILLA, it wasn't focused enough of the big guy), but it was a fine addition to the star wars franchise overall, with funny characters doing brave things and getting dead heroically ..... a right old grump being grumpy ..... and some gorgeous space battling ..... OVER TO YOU MR JOHNSON So I noticed you have a distinct style of typing. It seems like you break your sentences apart and separate them, line by line. What made you decide to do it like? Just curious. This is way old and been replied to but just wanted to say I often type the same way on message boards/facebook groups. It is way easier to read and to go back to my own thoughts and edit them. I wish more people did it this way. As for a second viewing, I thought it felt more well paced, but overall I liked the movie less the second time. We will try this: Empire Jedi TFA Rogue One Clones New Hope Sith Menace |
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HOWEVER his story was a little blurred, him flitting about was kinda confusing and was never convincing to me he was actually chasing the rebels!
